Title: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2006, 01:10:13 AM there are a few of us going to be in attendance so lets arrange a large corner and show the other players how blondes do a comp hopefully they will all join us for the banter
if your going to be there please post on this thread so we can arrange a meet up Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: TightEnd on September 13, 2006, 01:12:23 AM I'm going!
No backchat though Iron, I'm almost going to be in charge (behind Des, tikay, Mel and the rest...) Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Colchester Kev on September 13, 2006, 01:44:12 AM Im not going .... sad but true :(
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 13, 2006, 03:29:50 AM Indeed, as mentioned else where i will be playing.
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ifm on September 13, 2006, 03:31:46 AM I might pop in to point out the PRO's to the APAT hit squad................
YOU KNOW I KNOW WHO YOU ARE :D Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Poppet7 on September 13, 2006, 03:49:06 AM :blonde: whats the APAT? :blonde:
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ifm on September 13, 2006, 03:55:12 AM :blonde: whats the APAT? :blonde: The search facility is your friend............ Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: bolt pp on September 13, 2006, 04:02:45 AM :blonde: whats the APAT? :blonde: The search facility is your friend............ I dont think poppet will think so when it throws up an 800 page thread for her to read!!! :D Why dont you explain it to her ;goodvevil; ;D Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2006, 04:04:00 AM www.apat.com
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ifm on September 13, 2006, 04:05:06 AM :blonde: whats the APAT? :blonde: The search facility is your friend............ I dont think poppet will think so when it throws up an 800 page thread for her to read!!! :D Why dont you explain it to her ;goodvevil; ;D Basically Poppet it is an online lottery, you pay £10 and go into a draw with an (as yet) unknown amount of other folks........................:D Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Poppet7 on September 13, 2006, 04:06:31 AM Thanks bolt, ironside and EVENTUALLY ifm ;)
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2006, 04:06:42 AM the next event the runners wont be draw out of a hat
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ifm on September 13, 2006, 04:07:43 AM the next event the runners wont be draw out of a hat First come first served i believe.....fingers to the ready........ Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2006, 04:10:06 AM i do beleive steps are in order to make sure there is enough space for all
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ifm on September 13, 2006, 04:11:42 AM You really need to read the entire thread poppet in order to understand my little joke :D
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=13118.0 Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Poppet7 on September 13, 2006, 04:13:57 AM You're having a laugh... 66pages :o
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2006, 04:14:46 AM only take 7minutes 38 seconds to a woman of your skillls
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Poppet7 on September 13, 2006, 04:18:53 AM I'm still not reading 66 pages to "understand" ifm's funny joke... it would probably turn out to be a big disappointment! :D
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2006, 04:19:27 AM just like IFM really
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ifm on September 13, 2006, 04:20:52 AM :D
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Poppet7 on September 13, 2006, 04:36:53 AM True!
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Royal Flush on September 13, 2006, 07:54:12 AM Rumour has it myself and IFM are to be appointed to the APAT board....
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Jon MW on September 13, 2006, 08:11:53 AM I'm playing as well, I've even taken the Friday and Monday off so that I can really make the most of a long weekend in Birmingham.
8) Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Karabiner on September 13, 2006, 09:28:28 AM I'm still waiting for my confirmation e-mail, I am #79 on the reserve list ;izimbra;
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Suited_Jock on September 13, 2006, 10:20:24 AM ill be there. Not too sure of my plans yet once i arrive but ill definitely be at the event.
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 13, 2006, 01:24:11 PM Any more Blondes playing?
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: scottm on September 13, 2006, 02:38:50 PM Yes, The Limpet will be there ;flushy;
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bigfella on September 13, 2006, 03:08:22 PM I'm going, arriving on the Friday evening... :cheers:
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2006, 03:18:41 PM i am flying down on the saturday morning
but there is plenty of time after i win it on the sunday for a visit to the karoke Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Jon MW on September 13, 2006, 03:26:39 PM I'm sure there are a couple more blondeites going, but maybe they're just not the sociable types?
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Karabiner on September 13, 2006, 03:49:08 PM i am flying down on the saturday morning but there is plenty of time after i win it on the sunday for a visit to the karoke Do you have any influence with the reserve list ;) Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2006, 03:50:50 PM nope but you can always come along and rail
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on September 13, 2006, 03:51:56 PM I'll be there
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: TightEnd on September 13, 2006, 03:53:28 PM as will in the belly himself, railbirding rookie.
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: TheJagster on September 13, 2006, 03:53:43 PM My name was in the draw but no luck in this one! :(
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: matt674 on September 13, 2006, 03:53:56 PM Yes, The Limpet will be there ;flushy; GO 'TEAM CHORLTON'!!!! team chorlton:- a subsidiary linked collective of "team primate" Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on September 13, 2006, 03:57:54 PM as will in the belly himself, railbirding rookie. indeed he will Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: NoflopsHomer on September 13, 2006, 04:29:46 PM :hello:
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2006, 04:30:42 PM good tell belly i want to play him HU again this time both us can be blind
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2006, 04:43:06 PM ok folks i am booked into the marriot same place as bB1 for £78 room only (so no breakfasts please)
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: turny on September 13, 2006, 05:04:58 PM as will in the belly himself, railbirding rookie. yep belly will be there railbirding all blondes ;goodluck; Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: turny on September 13, 2006, 05:05:59 PM good tell belly i want to play him HU again this time both us can be blind lol u mug!!!!!!!!! rotflmfao Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2006, 05:20:47 PM good tell belly i want to play him HU again this time both us can be blind lol u mug!!!!!!!!! rotflmfao i was sure my 23o was ahead Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: turny on September 13, 2006, 05:24:16 PM good tell belly i want to play him HU again this time both us can be blind lol u mug!!!!!!!!! rotflmfao i was sure my 23o was ahead rotflmfao your a legion iron ;tightend; Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2006, 05:25:59 PM belly did you play a hand before we got HU?
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: turny on September 13, 2006, 10:38:28 PM cheeky bugger.
i reraised you all in blind if you remember :D Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ericstoner on September 14, 2006, 12:05:08 AM I too shell be playing, after being no 16 on the reserve list, I received my e-mail saying I was in the field, before I set off for BB3.
Paid up right away, so BROADWAY the big wide way, here I come. Is The Marriot nearest to the venue, Iron? See you all there. 8) Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: bundle on September 14, 2006, 03:35:43 AM I'm Glad i Popped in and saw this thread, I won a seat to this about a month ago, But looking at the two lists i'm on neither so i saved my self a trip to birmingham. Will have to look into this
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Claw75 on September 14, 2006, 12:08:10 PM Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: turny on September 14, 2006, 01:08:34 PM I'm Glad i Popped in and saw this thread, I won a seat to this about a month ago, But looking at the two lists i'm on neither so i saved my self a trip to birmingham. Will have to look into this plase explain how????????? Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: bundle on September 14, 2006, 01:18:41 PM I Played a sat to this at a poker club. if you go to the poker club there is a poster on the wall with the winners names on it that should be heading up there, I will contact them later today, I' sure they will just pay us out, they must have missed the deadline or something, I will post here and let you know what they have to say.
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Sheriff Fatman on September 14, 2006, 01:20:38 PM I pretty sure there were no satellites to this event.
Perhaps you've confused it with something else. Sheriff Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: bundle on September 14, 2006, 01:21:22 PM No it was to this, I saw the blonde poster at the club prior to playing it
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ifm on September 14, 2006, 01:25:42 PM No it was to this, I saw the blonde poster at the club prior to playing it There were no sats, you pay a membership fee and were put into a draw for seats. Where was this Bundle, and WTF have you been?? Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: bundle on September 14, 2006, 01:30:21 PM It was at Pokernitez in wokingham, I went there for a game when i got back from the states and they had a sat running that night to this event, 23/24 sept. I won my seat, I am calling them now, I'm not too bothered, seems like they should not have been running this sat, I'm sure they will just refund me.
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: londonpokergirl on September 14, 2006, 02:10:40 PM It was at Pokernitez in wokingham, I went there for a game when i got back from the states and they had a sat running that night to this event, 23/24 sept. I won my seat, I am calling them now, I'm not too bothered, seems like they should not have been running this sat, I'm sure they will just refund me. There were no satellites running for our event because we were oversubscribed. Looks like you need to speak to the club concerned Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Claw75 on September 14, 2006, 02:12:50 PM it wasn't just because it was oversubscribed though was it? it was made quite clear on the original APAT thread that a decision had been taken that there would be no satellites to any of the UK events.
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: londonpokergirl on September 14, 2006, 02:18:08 PM it wasn't just because it was oversubscribed though was it? it was made quite clear on the original APAT thread that a decision had been taken that there would be no satellites to any of the UK events. oops yes that aswell , having a very blonde day after having 4 blood tests for my routine diabetes check nearly passed out but other than that i'm fine lol Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 14, 2006, 02:24:36 PM It was at Pokernitez in wokingham, I went there for a game when i got back from the states and they had a sat running that night to this event, 23/24 sept. I won my seat, I am calling them now, I'm not too bothered, seems like they should not have been running this sat, I'm sure they will just refund me. Feels like you've been done. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Claw75 on September 14, 2006, 02:24:48 PM it wasn't just because it was oversubscribed though was it? it was made quite clear on the original APAT thread that a decision had been taken that there would be no satellites to any of the UK events. oops yes that aswell , having a very blonde day after having 4 blood tests for my routine diabetes check nearly passed out but other than that i'm fine lol take it easy mel x Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: tikay on September 14, 2006, 03:06:23 PM It was at Pokernitez in wokingham, I went there for a game when i got back from the states and they had a sat running that night to this event, 23/24 sept. I won my seat, I am calling them now, I'm not too bothered, seems like they should not have been running this sat, I'm sure they will just refund me. Welcome home bundle! Yes, I'm sure you will get a refund from Pokernitz. We were approached a while back by Pokernitz, and a suggestion was made that they purchased block of seats & memberships & ran Satellites, but we told them that we could not go this route, as Memberships & Seat Applications already indicated we would be over-subscribed, & it just did not seem appropriate. This is, on the face of it, very odd, but there is probably a rational explanation. I can confirm that we did NOT give approval to ANYONE to run Satellites to any APAT Events. I suggest you approach Pokernitz & seek a cash payment for your win. I'm afraid we can't help further - not to put too fine point on it, this Satellite had nothing to do with APAT, & we did not sanction or approve it. Let us know how you get on, & we'd also be interested to hear how this misunderstanding arose. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: bundle on September 14, 2006, 03:19:55 PM All sorted out now
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: tikay on September 14, 2006, 03:26:22 PM Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: tikay on September 14, 2006, 04:00:12 PM For the avoidance of doubt.......
APAT have not sanctioned & will not sanction any venue to run Satellites to our Events. If the position changes - unlikely - we will let you know. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: turny on September 14, 2006, 04:11:45 PM anyone know where i can play a sattelite to these events ? ;D ;goodvevil;
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: booder on September 14, 2006, 04:14:01 PM anyone know where i can play a sattelite to these events ? ;D ;goodvevil; amateur or professional ? Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 14, 2006, 04:25:19 PM eric the marriot is within walking distance to the broadway and i think is the closest to the casino
only problem is that its via an underpass which makespushing oneself very difficult infact we will problery need a couple of lads to gie us a hand or to jump in a black cab (rank outside the hotel) Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: tikay on September 14, 2006, 04:30:35 PM eric the marriot is within walking distance to the broadway and i think is the closest to the casino only problem is that its via an underpass which makespushing oneself very difficult infact we will problery need a couple of lads to gie us a hand or to jump in a black cab (rank outside the hotel) As last time Iron, you can rely on me. To leave you at the bottom of the ramp. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 14, 2006, 04:31:24 PM thanks mate your a star
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ericstoner on September 15, 2006, 10:03:58 AM Thanks Iron, I've booked the Marriot for the 23rd.I'll see you there.
Can you PM me your new mobile no , I lost your last message with your latest no. 8) Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: bigalhx1 on September 15, 2006, 10:05:00 PM i will be there so hope to see you all and good luck hope the final table all blonde
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 16, 2006, 02:45:14 AM i will be there so hope to see you all and good luck hope the final table all blonde Nice one, so where are we going to meet up before the comp starts? Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 16, 2006, 03:22:39 PM well there is 2 choices
either the bar of the marriot (easy for eric and my wheelchairs) or the seated area in the casino between the bar and the food area Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 16, 2006, 07:56:58 PM well there is 2 choices either the bar of the marriot (easy for eric and my wheelchairs) or the seated area in the casino between the bar and the food area Okay, Harmony and myself cannot check into our hotel until 2pm, so we are hoping to reg for membership when Broadway opens at Midday. So maybe we should meet at the Marriot as it is on the way to our hotel? Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ericstoner on September 16, 2006, 11:57:52 PM Christian, see my PM to Helen this evening.
Seems like the marriot would suit best, then we can move on mob handed. 8) Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 17, 2006, 02:17:17 AM Christian, see my PM to Helen this evening. Seems like the marriot would suit best, then we can move on mob handed. 8) Cheers, aye, we will meet there, but will have have to go to Broadway from our hotel due to check in time. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: bigalhx1 on September 19, 2006, 04:53:02 PM dont now wot time i will be getting there so will see you in the casino
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: bigalhx1 on September 19, 2006, 04:54:45 PM how many is there of us have we 9 need that to fill the final table lol
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: londonpokergirl on September 19, 2006, 04:56:37 PM i'm sure you'll be able to make the rest of the final table blondites ;)
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: turny on September 19, 2006, 08:35:25 PM i will be there supporting rookie and all other blondites entered.
dunno where we staying yet so prob meet up in the casino bar. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 20, 2006, 01:49:39 AM What time do we have to sign-in for the comp?
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: scottm on September 20, 2006, 02:02:55 AM Comp starts 3pm sharp.
I think sign-in is from 1.30/2pm Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 20, 2006, 02:03:55 AM Cheers muchly.
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: scottm on September 20, 2006, 02:06:17 AM No problem, cya Saturday ;)
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 20, 2006, 02:07:44 AM Look forward to it, just look for the "Beard"
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: scottm on September 20, 2006, 02:10:37 AM I've heard its not hard to miss it :D
See you at the bar for a :cheers: Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 20, 2006, 02:12:43 AM I've heard its not hard to miss it :D See you at the bar for a :cheers: rotflmfao rotflmfao True, mind you, it got nice coverage on Poker425 at BB3 ! Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: scottm on September 20, 2006, 02:15:34 AM I've heard its not hard to miss it :D See you at the bar for a :cheers: rotflmfao rotflmfao True, mind you, it got nice coverage on Poker425 at BB3 ! Still to watch that, I'll look out for the "Beard" 8) Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: turny on September 20, 2006, 02:46:34 AM bit luck iron will bust early and then i can take him apart in the sit n gos again ;D
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Jon MW on September 20, 2006, 08:11:28 AM how many is there of us have we 9 need that to fill the final table lol I make 11 Blondeites going - so there's even a couple to spare Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 20, 2006, 12:30:39 PM Oh good, that lessens the peer pressure a little, lol.
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: bigalhx1 on September 20, 2006, 08:27:30 PM anyone had any information off apat yet
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 20, 2006, 08:29:33 PM anyone had any information off apat yet about? Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: bigalhx1 on September 20, 2006, 08:34:31 PM sorry they said they was sending out emails this week just wondered if anyone have heard off them there is rumors reg time is 1.30 to 2.00
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Sark79 on September 20, 2006, 08:48:47 PM :blonde: whats the APAT? :blonde: :D You beat me to it Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: TightEnd on September 20, 2006, 08:51:08 PM there's an email being sent out tonight to all runners
I gather 1.30 onwards for registration, earlier the better after then Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: bigalhx1 on September 20, 2006, 08:57:47 PM thanks tightend
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 20, 2006, 09:17:51 PM can we register and then leave the building?
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: TightEnd on September 20, 2006, 09:19:55 PM yes
we will be starting at 3pm precisely, no later. Disqualified if not at your table then all to be seated by 2.45 to listen to you know who! Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 20, 2006, 09:22:25 PM well i will do my best my flight should be in by then
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: DesD on September 20, 2006, 10:55:40 PM well i will do my best my flight should be in by then Emails sent....i'm small print'ed out........ ;tk; Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 20, 2006, 11:11:29 PM i like the pay outs £300 for 9th to 4th will stop all the ladder climbing
mind you i feel sorry for the person i am going to beat HU with me getting £4.5k plus a $7.5 ept package compared to £1800 for 2nd Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ericstoner on September 20, 2006, 11:13:13 PM Well got my e-mail,so i'll be signing up at the broadway at 1:30,I'm easy after that, if anyone wants to go for a coffee to pass a bit of time i'm game,but i'll go with the flow.
I'll be at the marriot from 11am, and am meeting up with Bainn and Harmony, and any others who are aboutfeel free to jion us. Now as to the e-mail, the prize distribution, ie 50 % + extras for the winner, is a tad top heavy. 4th to 9th £300 eaach is bit flat, but hay ho, I'm happy to get the chance to play so it looks like win or bust stratagy for me. Good luck to all of you. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Royal Flush on September 20, 2006, 11:14:43 PM i like the pay outs £300 for 9th to 4th will stop all the ladder climbing mind you i feel sorry for the person i am going to beat HU with me getting £4.5k plus a $7.5 ept package compared to £1800 for 2nd Holding back!! Trying so hard.... Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 20, 2006, 11:16:06 PM you want to put a wee wager on flushy?
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ifm on September 20, 2006, 11:17:51 PM you want to put a wee wager on flushy? I think he was referring to the payout structure :D Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Royal Flush on September 20, 2006, 11:19:08 PM you want to put a wee wager on flushy? I meant that excellent payout structure. Sounds like just the thing players have been crying out for! Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 20, 2006, 11:21:23 PM Under our terms & conditions, the APAT will not support deal making.
This is a unique Championship event and the onus is on every player to try their utmost to win it. The above prize structure promotes that ideal and as no APAT member relies on Poker to make a living, our Champion will receive the lions share of the rewards on offer. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 20, 2006, 11:21:58 PM remember this is for amatuers not pros that need the deal on the final table to put bread in there mouths
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ifm on September 20, 2006, 11:24:18 PM remember this is for amatuers not pros that need the deal on the final table to put bread in there mouths I think that should have been a members decision personally, making deals i mean. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: DesD on September 20, 2006, 11:26:19 PM i like the pay outs £300 for 9th to 4th will stop all the ladder climbing mind you i feel sorry for the person i am going to beat HU with me getting £4.5k plus a $7.5 ept package compared to £1800 for 2nd Holding back!! Trying so hard.... LOL at Flushy.....I feel your pain! Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: totalise on September 20, 2006, 11:29:17 PM remember this is for amatuers not pros that need the deal on the final table to put bread in there mouths yes amateur players routinely play HU for £2700 in a £30 competition, so its no water off their back! Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ericstoner on September 20, 2006, 11:34:12 PM Go on Flushy, say it.......you know you want too!!! ;goodvevil;
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 20, 2006, 11:35:22 PM hey i dont care i aint planning on coming 2nd
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Wardonkey on September 20, 2006, 11:39:34 PM Does not an incredibly top heavy prize structure like this one actually encourage deal making?
A brief conversation in the toilets is all it takes. Even chips 2 or 3 handed the temptation to deal will be massive. Particularly as the target audience is not used to playing for such a big prize. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 20, 2006, 11:41:41 PM not really mr donkey as with me and ericstoner both in the final 3 or 4 how we going to get everyone in the toilet
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: ifm on September 20, 2006, 11:42:18 PM Does not an incredibly top heavy prize structure like this one actually encourage deal making? A brief conversation in the toilets is all it takes. Even chips 2 or 3 handed the temptation to deal will be massive. Particularly as the target audience is not used to playing for such a big prize. They are paying out by cheque Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Claw75 on September 20, 2006, 11:42:37 PM not really mr donkey as with me and ericstoner both in the final 3 or 4 how we going to get everyone in the toilet rotflmfao Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: totalise on September 20, 2006, 11:43:03 PM it will send deals underground, and then people are risking getting stiffed. Negative publicity galore!
Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Ironside on September 20, 2006, 11:54:08 PM i have to agree the top heavy prize structure will cause ALOT of problems espically amongs those who have grown up on sites like stars where there 20% payouts are a huge success
and seeing as stars is one of the only sites that help people out with deals i think this will be open for abuse Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: TightEnd on September 21, 2006, 12:12:12 AM Under our terms & conditions, the APAT will not support deal making. This is a unique Championship event and the onus is on every player to try their utmost to win it. The above prize structure promotes that ideal and as no APAT member relies on Poker to make a living, our Champion will receive the lions share of the rewards on offer. as you can see we are trying something different. We'll see how it goes, take feedback on board and go from there for Event 2. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 21, 2006, 12:47:25 AM yes we will be starting at 3pm precisely, no later. Disqualified if not at your table then all to be seated by 2.45 to listen to you know who! Ahem. I will definitely be registered on time. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 21, 2006, 12:48:21 AM Well got my e-mail,so i'll be signing up at the broadway at 1:30,I'm easy after that, if anyone wants to go for a coffee to pass a bit of time i'm game,but i'll go with the flow. I'll be at the marriot from 11am, and am meeting up with Bainn and Harmony, and any others who are aboutfeel free to jion us. Now as to the e-mail, the prize distribution, ie 50 % + extras for the winner, is a tad top heavy. 4th to 9th £300 eaach is bit flat, but hay ho, I'm happy to get the chance to play so it looks like win or bust stratagy for me. Good luck to all of you. See you Saturday ! ! ! Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 21, 2006, 12:49:34 AM Emails sent....i'm small print'ed out........ ;tk; Cheers for you work Des. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: matt674 on September 21, 2006, 09:13:11 AM No deals. It's a concept. We want to do this a little different. We want to see someone win their EPT seat outright, & go live the dream, the guy in the street playing an EPT, sat next to the big boys. Introduce "business", & the Seat gets complicated. Can we stop deals? We shall see. We shall certainly do our best. But before Members join, they know our stance on deals, so it's their choice. If they cannot accept our view on deals, I guess they won't join. It's not a problem, it's for the individual to decide if he likes our proposed package. Ordinarily, I believe players have the right to deal. This is a different concept, at least we want it to be. Not all Grosvenors have such a top heavy payout structure and we do increase our payouts from 18th to 10th but only with 3 stages not 4. But I can only speak for Blackpool. Plus if you get paid you will make at least a small profit on your investment. During our weekly comps we run a flattish structure, not as flat as Gala Notts. But as flat as we could make it without the death threats eminating from the poker playing fraternity. Some well thoughts of professional players actually threatened me after I ran Festival events with a 30% first prize. So perhaps not all professional players quite understand the theory behind "Flatter Payouts" Also, the comment about it's your money. Some people, who work in the casino industry, will argue hard and long against that. To Quote. "It's not their money until they are knocked out." Not my opinion but one that is still around and being used. Yogi A good, well-reasoned & thoughtful Post by Yogi, as always. But the final para troubles me. It IS the players money, until & unless a sponsor puts some in, & I believe strongly that the players have an ABSOLUTE RIGHT to do what they want. As to "what they want", well, thaht's another story altogether, & I fancy there will never be agreement on that! So even though there will be no money added by the sponsor and all of the cash prizepool will be provided by the players they will not be allowed to deal? As i've said in a previous post if this assosiation is aimed at the recreational player then the difference in say a possible £2700 for 1st and £900 for 4th is huge, surely they should be able to decide how it gets paid out? No, the Sponsor is not adding money, but they are adding - considerably - via the EPT/WPT/WSOP Seats. Everyone has the right to decide if they want to deal or not, that's always been my stance, as you correctly remind us. This is a different concept, & we have made potential Members aware of this facet of APAT Live Events BEFORE they joined. So they have the choice, & if it makes them uncomfortable, they will decide that APAT is not for them. It took Des a considerable amount of time to "sell" this Policy to me, but eventually, in the context of APAT, I clicked on to the concept. We foresee the Finalists really "going for it", all the way, down to the wire, playing proper Poker (hopefully the Structure will encourage this), & an outright winner. The majority of players will never have played in a Casino before, & as such, I think they will find the Final a truly memorable experience. Let's hope that the Recreational Monkeys support the logic. You back from Vegas? Wow - was i ever way off the mark thinking the difference between 1st and 4th would be about £1800 and that this difference would be a massive one to the recreational players - but over £4000 before the added prize!! There are people travelling the length and bredth of the country to play this tournament so because there is no payout structure difference up until the top 3 places then you have to finish in the top 3 to actually win more than the trip has cost in the first place!! Normally the difference between the prize money won by the 4th place finisher to the winner is somewhere between 225-250%. For this tournament with the added prize the winner will walk away with approx 2300% more than whoever finishes 4th. Now thats a top heavy structure!! The APAT will add beween 37% and 77% to the prize pool throughout season one. We hope to increase this value in season two. An achievement to be proud of, as we did not have a Member in place when those contracts were negotiated. Think what we could achieve with 5,000 members, or 50,000? Is this still the case and if so how much has the APAT added to the prizepool as i take it that the prize awarded by the sponsor is a seperate issue? Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: DesD on September 21, 2006, 10:18:08 AM The APAT will add beween 37% and 77% to the prize pool throughout season one. We hope to increase this value in season two. An achievement to be proud of, as we did not have a Member in place when those contracts were negotiated. Think what we could achieve with 5,000 members, or 50,000? Is this still the case and if so how much has the APAT added to the prizepool as i take it that the prize awarded by the sponsor is a seperate issue? Hi Matt, The APAT has brought an additional 48% in value to this tournament. That value was negotiated through a protracted contractual process with PokerStars.com, prior to a membership being in place and if perhaps you think PokerStars.com took the decision to become the tour sponsor of the APAT lightly, then I urge you to look at their home page, where the APAT is one of very few non PokerStars owned properties, promoted to their worldwide player base. Similarly, the payout structure has been part of our terms & conditions since launch on August 1. We will try it and take stock after the first event. Please bear in mind that we are under two months old and had to start somewhere. But we are committed to listening to our members and will introduce a more formal method of consultation in the coming weeks. You put quite a lot of effort into pulling your post together Matt. You should add weight to your voice and join. There is a limit to what the APAT can achieve without the full committment of the players. Regards, Des. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: matt674 on September 21, 2006, 10:51:53 AM Thank you for the offer but for the moment i will be happy taking a watching brief as to the progress of the APAT, once it is an established organization then i will see whether it will be worth me taking out a full membership. I have paid my online subscription as your online series is being played on home territory for me and i have easy access via my pokerstars treehouse.
To be honest because it is difficult for me to get time off work i dont get to play as much live as i do online, the tournament at BB3 was my first since returning from Vegas. But if i was to play a live event that i knew would take up a whole weekend i would have to question whether it would be worth travelling long distances to play in a tournament where i had to finish in the top 2.5% to come away with any profit. I did post in a thread started by Bainn saying that i agree that the APAT will need time to develop and to be patient - just as the EPT needed after its first few tournaments in Season 1 were slated for structure and payout. I wish everyone luck in this weekends tournaments - especially the sole member of "Team Chorlton" who will be taking part, I hope it is a success. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Jon MW on September 21, 2006, 01:28:30 PM Well got my e-mail,so i'll be signing up at the broadway at 1:30,I'm easy after that, if anyone wants to go for a coffee to pass a bit of time i'm game,but i'll go with the flow. I'll be at the marriot from 11am, and am meeting up with Bainn and Harmony, and any others who are aboutfeel free to jion us. ... Good luck to all of you. See you Saturday ! ! ! I hope to see you there 8) Although, I have to buy my nieces birthday present on Saturday, so if that takes too long I'll be rushing straight to the casino. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 21, 2006, 01:38:14 PM I wish everyone luck in this weekends tournaments Cheers Monkey. Title: Re: blondes at APAT Post by: Bainn on September 23, 2006, 01:38:19 AM Hey, does anyone know if there will be any mini-updates done from the event for the forum?
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