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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBABP1pUB18

wow without seeing the lead to that it still sounds like they were trying to cheat the rest of the comp to me

Interesting...

I don't understand the cho chop/ top top dialogue

Can someone explain that to me

me too??

Gold says, i thought you said "Top Top" meaning, TP TK... which is why Jamie called as he had the same hand and thought it would be chopped.

Didn't Gold speak first and Kolt say me too?

Kolt thought Gold said, "Top Pair" not "Top Top", Kolt replied "Me Too" to the Top pair part when he misheard.

i hope gold gave 50% of his winnings away in percentages to the other colluders and with that $6mill ended up owning money on legal fee's that would be justice

But that was after Kolt said all-in?

Then Kolt said sorry?????? Tis blowin my little mind?

Kolt moves in, Gold says he has top top (A-J), Kolt mishears him for 'top pair' and says me too (ie. A-J), which is why Gold calls, thinking it's just a split pot (chop chop)

Exactly.

This isn't collusion, he said it after the money went in, he could have been saying that for a multitude of reasons, table image, make the guy feel a bit better, a joke.

You guys are to gullible in believing golds reasoning behind the call, maybe theres no confusion at all, maybe he wanted to knock his pal out and then tried to pretend it was a mistake so as not to harm there friendship.

The implication is that Gold would NOT have called had he know his opponent only had top pair and not top pair top kicker, ie he wouldnt call if he was AHEAD.

This might not be collusion but is softplay which is also not permitted .

I'd speculate that its closer to a statement than an implication.

The main point i was making is that your taking his word to readily, I understand what he said and why supposedly he said it but if ever questioned about it he could very easily dismiss it as a joke, or an attempt to make the other players at the table think about him in a certain way that would add to a certain type of table image he was trying to project.

He mealy referred to a situation whereby he claims to have refrained from "soft play" as a result of miscommunication as opposed to an inherent veracity and reverence for the rules that would compell the restraint of others.


You cant prove he would've done it, it happend afterwards not prior or during the hand.

If two footballers walk of the pitch after a game and one says "i was going to tackle you in the box but thought that if i did you'd take a dive" and the other one replies "i would've" and the ref was to overhear should he book the guy for suggesting that if the situation arose for him to cheat me may take it?

Are they allowed to announce their hands at the WSOP?

I like the last three winners far better than that guy.  Every interview and TV appearance I have seen with him, he always appears like a prat .

With two players in the pot and ones all in? I'd be amazed if they wern't!!! telling an opponent your hand in order to get a reaction is one of the oldest ways of gathering information about the strengh of an opponents hand

I dont mean this disrespectfully sark but whats that got to do with anything, or at least the point thats being discussed?

lol,  very true.   I will keep these views to myself.   He is a prat though


There was a similar incident on one of the WPT events a couple of years back,  Mike Sexton said the guy in question was allowed to annouce his hand but it just wasn't a correct way to do things.

It does look a bit dodgy though when one says "I thought you said this" and the other says "sorry"

 rotflmfao rotflmfao complete contradiction... i couldn't agree more though Sark!

lol,  I should point out these are my views and I am probably completely wrong.  I normally am and tend to shout my mouth off abit  :D .  But compared to a nice guy like Joe Hatchen who was so humble,  Jamie Gold always appears smug and a show off.   Again, I am probably wrong and I will probably find out he works at his local soup kitchen and helps old laddies across the road

I listened to an interview he did (it was linked from Paul Phillips blog). Not only did he sound like a prat in it but he was talking about how he'd talk to his opponents when he sat down and basically tell them whether or not they could play their hand...

Ive downloaded all the main event and watched it all. Jamie Gold makes a lot of those near the mark comments to a number of different players. At one time during the final he even turns over one of his cards while his opponent is considering calling, pretending hes got the straight . I think 10 J was the staight and he showed the Jack (he was actually holding J3).
His opponent mucked the better hand.

Jamie Gold does get a little annoying at timesand apparently hired bodyguards during the last couple of days due to threats.

Also he catches more cards than I have ever seen before on television, totally unreal   

Why did not  join Pokerstars?

Anyone know please

Regards

M

He had allready some affiliation with Bo Dog, which I think has something to do with pending courtcase over alledged sharing of any winnings. He and someone else were asked to get celebrities to wear Bodog apparell during WSOP due to their contacts with the stars.  In affect Bodog gave them a seat in main event which Gold and other guy agreed to split any winnings.

Exactly.

This isn't collusion, he said it after the money went in, he could have been saying that for a multitude of reasons


The hand was still in progress when they were talking about their holdings. Gold hadn't acted yet.

Could argue the case either way but even if Gold folded to that bet (no idea how much it was to him) on that flop he could give reasonable justification.

As for Gold's character, he strikes me as very greasy and someone I wouldn't mix with unless I was looking to let him hang himself (I believe he reneged on his word with the bloke who's suing him).

If it was just this incident against this player then i would agree, but you have to watch the whole thing to see he kept doing this. He would re-raise and announce 'i have a big hand' and when people called he would say "why did you call i told you i had a hand" if he is guilty of softplaying, he is guilty of softplaying all his opponents.

I haven't watched the final table yet but i quite like the guy. He doesnt give rubdowns!

It's a very commendable part of his game.

I haven't watched the final table yet but i quite like the guy. He doesnt give rubdowns!
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lol  Soft Lad

lol  Soft Lad


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Whats the point of telling someone you just knocked out that they played badly? Let them get over the fact they nearly became a millionaire without shouting "pass the sugar"

And i meant i like how he played more than anything, he managed to maintain a big lead by applying pressure to the short stacks and he used his speech to gain so much info, i was very impressed.

Whats the point of telling someone you just knocked out that they played badly? Let them get over the fact they nearly became a millionaire without shouting "pass the sugar"

And i meant i like how he played more than anything, he managed to maintain a big lead by applying pressure to the short stacks and he used his speech to gain so much info, i was very impressed.
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Only If you could do the same eh! Flushy instead of choking

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Whats the point of telling someone you just knocked out that they played badly? Let them get over the fact they nearly became a millionaire without shouting "pass the sugar"

And i meant i like how he played more than anything, he managed to maintain a big lead by applying pressure to the short stacks and he used his speech to gain so much info, i was very impressed.
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Jamie Gold needed plastic surgery after the final due to the cards hitting him in the face for 4 days solid.
Wait till you see the final.

Must agree though Joe Hatchem comes across as being arrogant this year, maybe it was the pressure of defending his title.

Without knowing exactly how much is in the middle or how much the all-in players bet is, what surprised me was how quickly he says call when he thinks his opponent has AJ as well.

He calls the bet in the thought he is getting his money back when his opponent could easily have AJ with the Ace of Diamonds thereby giving him a freeroll at taking the whole pot.

yeah..and to be honest I probably would have gone all in as a bet aswell if I'd had the queen of diamonds as a kicker....

Whats the point of telling someone you just knocked out that they played badly? Let them get over the fact they nearly became a millionaire without shouting "pass the sugar"

And i meant i like how he played more than anything, he managed to maintain a big lead by applying pressure to the short stacks and he used his speech to gain so much info, i was very impressed.
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I'm writig a full piece about this "person" soon. Here I'll just say that I think you should watch the tape of the final. EVen before the final he was running around shouting "yes yes" and high fiving everytime he knocked someone out. AT the final he was an arrogant C**T. "I'm going to trap everyone!"

In short, he didn't ive rubdowns he gave full on deep tissue massages with happy ending.

I don't have a problem with someone going to thier mates and high 5'ing when they win a pot. You don't ask a footballer not to celebrate when he scores a game......you do ask him not to run up to the goalie and say "have that you mug"

OH Dear! we're gonna definitely gonig to have to disagree on this one.

Rubdowns/excess celebrations/loudly shouing out for your sick outdraw cards/arrogant threats

They all fall into the same category for me, bit lacking on the class side.
Not really conducive to elevating poker to a professional level.

This isn't online. The people who's faces you dance in front of after hitting them with your 2 outer muffjob are right in front of you.

I thought you didnt get involved on a board with all the same suit out of principle..

This is another case of what part of poker is a game and what part is a sport?

I hate rubdowns, there is no need, but if a guy wins the WSOP and i come 2nd, i fully expect him to jump up and start cheering! He just became the World Champ ffs! As long as he comes over and shakes my hand all is well. Like i say a footballer is allowed to go celebrate with his fans/fellow players when he scores, so a poker player should be able to do the same.

I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
I won't begrudge the new WSOP champ a cheer when he's won it but there are ways to do things and ways NOT to do things. As for the handshaking thing, I see it as a quick bit of hypocrisy all too often witessed on these tele final tables. DO a big grandstand production on how great you are after getting your chips in from behind and getting lucky ad then offering a handshake to the unlucky soul you just knocked out. IMO do one or the other but they dont go together. Acting like an arse for 10secs is not all suddenly washed away because you then immediately pretend to be a gentleman.

Is that THE MadYank? The one of record break heads-up fame??

 ;tightend;

What about any sport? When someone wins they celebrate then shake the losers hand, why does poker have to be diffrent?



He is only borrowing the record :D

Why yes it is oh snoopilicious one. Would you like a celebratory mai tai?

not in public, please.... Mai Tai is a girls drink, I would never drink that!  ;ashamed;

Is that a challenge?

He is only borrowing the record :D
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Is that a challenge?
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LOL Flushy is welcome to try to break it (74hrs 4 mins). Heck I'll deal for him again. But I still wouldn't wish that self abuse on others.

I was think more that you could play each other heads up.

The loser is the one who drops dead first.

I'd be sure to do a lot of dancing and celebrating. I think he'd die from my endless talking before the organ failure got him  ;frustrated;

Despite the fact that at one time or another I have done all the things I have mentioned above, perhaps I have mellowed in my old age (10% of Tikay's age) but I have almost always been a member of the GIQ brigade.

Tis difficult to explain if you don't understand it in the 1st place. There is a time and a place for everything.

perhaps a better shorter explanation is "It's just NOT cricket" to run around shouting to the camera about your greatness when you suckout on someone.

Howzzzzzzzzzat?

because you're nothing more then a lucky fish when you outdraw someone. It has nothing to do with your greatness. You can be happy about being lucky, but it doesn't make you great.

Also you have to remember that for every bad outdraw you win there's a guy who just lost a lot of cash on that bad beat and, although you can be happy about it, there's no need to rub that in his face.

Poker is not the same as football. You can celebrate a good win of course you can, but there's no need to call someone a mug. (Hell, even in footie they don't)


 True class is about being a good winner as well as a good loser and running around shouting how great you are and how the other guy is a fish shows you don't have any class.

Are people not reading what i write????

I said i HATE rubdowns, i said i hate it when people mock a player they just knocked out, when they rub it in thier face etc. However i don't mind people being happy when they win!

sorry Flushy...wasn't meant as an attack on yourself.

and no, we don't really read what you post...well except for a laugh ;)

taken from the imfamous pokerbastard blog, this made me chuckle. 

I nearly threw up my coffee and cornflakes the other morning.

"Idly watching the Breakfast News on the BBC, when they switch to some sort of expose of gambling in the UK, and interview a "Professional Poker Player", one Ron Fanelli. He was shown yahooing (NOT an uncommon occurence) when winning a pot (an uncommon occurence) at the Gutshot club. The sycophantic commentary then informed us that he had won £200, whereupon my choking turned to uncontrolled laughter."

not as humurous as i thought obv

LOL

No that post is still funny!

Cleary the bastard was one of my huge fans fom the VIC cash games.

Stella please mate.