Title: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: The_Diamond on November 15, 2006, 07:26:50 PM Is it just me or was poker on TV much more interesting when you couldn't see the players hole cards. It was cool on the original series of LNP when you didn't see some players hands maybe until the turn. You'd be sitting there, thinking to yourself "Jesus, Karesh must have flopped a set" after he raises the turn, then the hole cam reveals jack high!!
I'd rather not have everyone's active hole cards up on the screen. I want to try and work things out for myself. I think you also get to see more logic behind some players bad calls when you don't have the benefit of seeing the other guys cards during the hand. Folded/mucked hands can always be shown afterwards. The 98 WSOP final hand is one of the most engaging hands ever seen on TV and it was before hole cams. I can understand that for someone not that farmiliar with the game it might seem boring if you don't know what's going on, but the audience is much more grown up now. If it was shown on Digital you might even get an option to watch the show with or without hole cards on screen. so which would you prefer? BTW, am I just thick or is there no way to attch a poll to a post on blonde? Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: TightEnd on November 15, 2006, 07:28:30 PM BTW, am I just thick or is there no way to attch a poll to a post on blonde? done. Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: Dewi_cool on November 15, 2006, 07:30:33 PM other option for poll, is shoe hole cards post flop, turn, or river
Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: bolt pp on November 15, 2006, 07:32:05 PM no, If you couldn't see the whole cards jessie may might shut up for 5 minutes!
Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: TightEnd on November 15, 2006, 07:32:31 PM other option for poll, is shoe hole cards post flop, turn, or river done, again Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: iceman on November 15, 2006, 07:47:32 PM no, If you couldn't see the whole cards jessie may might shut up for 5 minutes! am i the only one who finds these continuous attacks on mr may offensiveTitle: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: bolt pp on November 15, 2006, 07:48:17 PM no, If you couldn't see the whole cards jessie may might shut up for 5 minutes! am i the only one who finds these continuous attacks on mr may offensivey e s ;D Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: TightEnd on November 15, 2006, 07:48:50 PM no, If you couldn't see the whole cards jessie may might shut up for 5 minutes! am i the only one who finds these continuous attacks on mr may offensiveyes Mrs May, you are Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: iceman on November 15, 2006, 07:53:31 PM no, If you couldn't see the whole cards jessie may might shut up for 5 minutes! am i the only one who finds these continuous attacks on mr may offensiveyes Mrs May, you are its all so unfair, youll even critisise how i cut his hair next Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: TightEnd on November 15, 2006, 07:54:45 PM he has his hair cut?
don't look like it Mrs May Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: byronkincaid on November 15, 2006, 08:15:57 PM watching poker with no hole cards is like watching paint dry. get some of the old wsop dvd's off ebay. I've got them going back to the 1800s nearly but they are almost unwatchable so I've only bothered with a couple. On the EPT shows they play one hand as if you were a player maybe they could do it a few times per show?
the problem with tv poker is that they are still showing sngs where you start with 40-50 BBs when everyones bored of that now and would prefer to watch deep stacked cash. imo. Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: Gryff on November 15, 2006, 08:40:52 PM the problem with tv poker is that they are still showing OH AND THEY'RE ALLIN! HERES THE *INSERT SPONSOR NAME* ALLIN MOMENTs when everyones bored of that now and would prefer to watch HSP. FYP :) Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: moritzey on November 15, 2006, 09:31:21 PM I think I would prefer to see just a single persons' hole cards, would give you a lot of insight into his/her thinking, and at the same time make it more interesting. A bit like reading Matt's, Pab's and other people's tournament histories.. maybe show everyone's elses cards after the hand is over, but even then that's only optional.
Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: lazaroonie on November 15, 2006, 10:09:33 PM i can see a market in interactive tv poker programs of the future where you will be able to choose which player at the table you would like to be for a particular hand, and you can only see their hole cards. would give a better insight into the game.
Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: bhoywonder on November 15, 2006, 10:39:31 PM wasnt the irish open early this year shown live on sky
and without hole cards shown? Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: kinboshi on November 15, 2006, 11:17:42 PM i can see a market in interactive tv poker programs of the future where you will be able to choose which player at the table you would like to be for a particular hand, and you can only see their hole cards. would give a better insight into the game. For serious players, it would be great to see a tournament from one player's eyes (or maybe a couple of players to keep things moving). They could say what they were thinking at the time, and others could offer their opinions, etc., on certain hands. Would be a brilliant learning tool as well. However, what sort of audience would that get? I'd definitely watch it - but would there be a big enough market for it? If someone was bold enough to try it, I guess we'd find out. Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: lazaroonie on November 16, 2006, 12:57:12 AM i can see a market in interactive tv poker programs of the future where you will be able to choose which player at the table you would like to be for a particular hand, and you can only see their hole cards. would give a better insight into the game. For serious players, it would be great to see a tournament from one player's eyes (or maybe a couple of players to keep things moving). They could say what they were thinking at the time, and others could offer their opinions, etc., on certain hands. Would be a brilliant learning tool as well. However, what sort of audience would that get? I'd definitely watch it - but would there be a big enough market for it? If someone was bold enough to try it, I guess we'd find out. it seems to me to be an extension of the "playercam" idea on skysports at the moment for the football. lets you see the game from one players perspective. the technology isnt that difficult, or much more of an overhead than actually filming the whole event. you can be assured that the future will hold much more exciting things that this.... Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: boldie on November 16, 2006, 11:23:35 AM at the moment poker shows seem to be rinky dink little things at as low a cost as possible..although some are entertaining enough. i would hope soon a premier show would come up (of course with out mr May ) but don't know if we'll get there soon.
I would be more then happy to not see hole cards untill the turn or river. I don't need/like to see everyones cards from the start and have Jessie May go completely mental because someone has AK (It's the biggest hand in poker, you know?) Title: Re: Prefer not to see players hole cards during hands on TV? Post by: Zebediah on November 16, 2006, 11:56:21 AM i can see a market in interactive tv poker programs of the future where you will be able to choose which player at the table you would like to be for a particular hand, and you can only see their hole cards. would give a better insight into the game. For serious players, it would be great to see a tournament from one player's eyes (or maybe a couple of players to keep things moving). They could say what they were thinking at the time, and others could offer their opinions, etc., on certain hands. Would be a brilliant learning tool as well. However, what sort of audience would that get? I'd definitely watch it - but would there be a big enough market for it? If someone was bold enough to try it, I guess we'd find out. it seems to me to be an extension of the "playercam" idea on skysports at the moment for the football. lets you see the game from one players perspective. the technology isnt that difficult, or much more of an overhead than actually filming the whole event. you can be assured that the future will hold much more exciting things that this.... As I mentioned on the same thread Diamond posted on the mob. The EPT coverage did do this for the odd hand. Played out from one players perspective allowing you to think what you would do. Then you would see the cards at showdown, or if folded, show them from the rabbitcam after to see how well you did. The skycam idea is brilliant and could happen. You select to see no hole card, all hole cards, or choose one players cards to see. Watch the whole tournament from a player that you admire. |