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Title: Casino Royale
Post by: The Baron on November 17, 2006, 12:03:55 AM
I liked it. Gritty, fun, and pretty slick too. No stoopid invisible cars or face changing bad guys who cant feel pain. Just sleazy Europeans who are pretty nasty (and crap at poker).

You'll hate the poker scenes - it's always the stone cold nuts Vs the 2nd or 3rd nuts where all the chips would go in every time, closely followed by "I had a read on him - he has a tell - I cant beat this guy - blah blah blah" - but apart from that it's good.

I'm still no Daniel Craig fan but the film itself is decent enough.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Rooky9 on November 17, 2006, 12:10:13 AM
I liked it. Gritty, fun, and pretty slick too. No stoopid invisible cars or face changing bad guys who cant feel pain. Just sleazy Europeans who are pretty nasty (and crap at poker).

You'll hate the poker scenes - it's always the stone cold nuts Vs the 2nd or 3rd nuts where all the chips would go in every time, closely followed by "I had a read on him - he has a tell - I cant beat this guy - blah blah blah" - but apart from that it's good.
I'm still no Daniel Craig fan but the film itself is decent enough.

Just like Rounders?!


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: happybhoy on November 17, 2006, 12:10:57 AM
He was good in Layercake, cracking movie


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: kinboshi on November 17, 2006, 12:11:36 AM
I liked it. Gritty, fun, and pretty slick too. No stoopid invisible cars or face changing bad guys who cant feel pain. Just sleazy Europeans who are pretty nasty (and crap at poker).

You'll hate the poker scenes - it's always the stone cold nuts Vs the 2nd or 3rd nuts where all the chips would go in every time, closely followed by "I had a read on him - he has a tell - I cant beat this guy - blah blah blah" - but apart from that it's good.
I'm still no Daniel Craig fan but the film itself is decent enough.

Just like Rounders?!

Just like Tribeca tables...


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: The Baron on November 17, 2006, 12:21:09 AM
I liked it. Gritty, fun, and pretty slick too. No stoopid invisible cars or face changing bad guys who cant feel pain. Just sleazy Europeans who are pretty nasty (and crap at poker).

You'll hate the poker scenes - it's always the stone cold nuts Vs the 2nd or 3rd nuts where all the chips would go in every time, closely followed by "I had a read on him - he has a tell - I cant beat this guy - blah blah blah" - but apart from that it's good.
I'm still no Daniel Craig fan but the film itself is decent enough.

Just like Rounders?!

**SPOILERS**

Much, much worse. Especially the 4 way all in for $150 million with the 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th nuts.

Oooh not to mention the "bad call" JB makes with the 2nd nut full house Vs quads because he was "duped" into the bad guy's "tell".


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: cambo on November 17, 2006, 12:23:40 AM
going to see this tomorrow , gotta be better some of the other more recent bond films


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Rooky9 on November 17, 2006, 01:03:30 AM
I liked it. Gritty, fun, and pretty slick too. No stoopid invisible cars or face changing bad guys who cant feel pain. Just sleazy Europeans who are pretty nasty (and crap at poker).

You'll hate the poker scenes - it's always the stone cold nuts Vs the 2nd or 3rd nuts where all the chips would go in every time, closely followed by "I had a read on him - he has a tell - I cant beat this guy - blah blah blah" - but apart from that it's good.
I'm still no Daniel Craig fan but the film itself is decent enough.

Just like Rounders?!

**SPOILERS**

Much, much worse. Especially the 4 way all in for $150 million with the 1st, 3rd, 4th and 5th nuts.

Oooh not to mention the "bad call" JB makes with the 2nd nut full house Vs quads because he was "duped" into the bad guy's "tell".

well I wont be spending $5.95 on this film now!


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Canuck on November 17, 2006, 07:35:23 AM
When I saw the trailers I was obviously hoping they had a good poker scene with some good poker rather then royal flush v quads, hate that stuff. I know they have it for the average people who dont know a thing about poker but just once I would like to see people in a movie with actual poker, guess this isn't it.

lol, still going to see it tonight though.

-Canuck


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Dewi_cool on November 17, 2006, 07:39:49 AM
good film,pokerscenes spoilt now though


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Trace on November 17, 2006, 08:45:46 AM
I'd pay to just sit and drool!


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Zebediah on November 17, 2006, 09:52:48 AM
While enjoyable anyway, the stupidest poker scene ever goes to the remake of Maverick.

Lock stock brag was good.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: bolt pp on November 17, 2006, 10:02:44 AM
While enjoyable anyway, the stupidest poker scene ever goes to the remake of Maverick.

Lock stock brag was good.

I assume when you say "good" you're refering to the fact that Lenny Mclean could have got up and knocked everyone of the crewmembers out at any time if he had wanted to, because everything else about that scene was shit!


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: boldie on November 17, 2006, 01:59:16 PM
While enjoyable anyway, the stupidest poker scene ever goes to the remake of Maverick.

Lock stock brag was good.

the Mel Gibson Maverick? Man I loved that ending...Call all-in blind before you know whether you'll make your royal flush or not....yeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: julian on November 18, 2006, 10:22:46 AM
i like daniel craig & the wife is keen to see him in the beach scene....sigh


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: DTD-ACES on November 18, 2006, 12:16:41 PM
I saw it last night , didn't like the first 5 minutes then it takes off more like you would expect a JB film and apart from a little too much treacle in the love scenes which have a purpose i thought it was agreat first attempt and better than i was expecting . The poker scenes have a couple of mistakes but didnt spoil the film and the last two minutes were what all Bond films are about .

PS Julian , for the beach scene , it's just like me in swimming trunks with blonde hair not !!

ACES


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: snoopy1239 on November 18, 2006, 02:47:27 PM
I'm not a big Daniel Craig fan, I like Layer Cake but I just find him a bit bland.

Personally, I would have preferred someone else in the role.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: The Baron on November 18, 2006, 03:54:59 PM
I'm not a big Daniel Craig fan, I like Layer Cake but I just find him a bit bland.

Personally, I would have preferred someone else in the role.

I agree Snoops, I was a very big 'Brosnan as Bond' fan. However this film is good for so many other reasons. Don't let Daniel Craig put you off watching it.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Sark79 on November 18, 2006, 03:56:51 PM
The music is good,  I am alone in my view of this though  :D . Everyone I have spoken to hates the new Bond theme,  I think it is great


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: roverthtaeh on November 18, 2006, 04:01:31 PM
Would have been far better with Russ Abbot.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: sofa----king on November 18, 2006, 05:07:47 PM
just went for lunch and saw the new james bond in casino royal me my wife and 9 year old son all thought it was very good 9/10  and i do say i think the best bond and film for a while ..well done M I 6


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: ericstoner on November 18, 2006, 05:45:30 PM
Just been to see it.

I too liked the music, the theme tune felt modern to go with the new image,in fact the score throughout was good.

I felt the new bond improved as the movie went on.

The poker scenes ...................ayre well just let them wash over you, and enjoy the ride.

Great fun. Aspades


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: DaveShoelace on November 18, 2006, 11:59:03 PM
Just got back from it myself, I went for the poker scenes but I left thinking what a superb overall film it was.

The positive is that the tourists will be chasing straight flush draws for the next six months


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: danafish on November 19, 2006, 01:37:52 AM
Jude Law would have made a way better Bond. Or that dude out of Croupier.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: bolt pp on November 19, 2006, 09:21:44 AM
Jude Law would have made a way better Bond. Or that dude out of Croupier.

I agree that jude law would have done the business as bond but that guy out of croupier is crap, and that is possibly the worst film ive ever seen, hes a novelist, croupier, hard nut, bank robber, it just goes on and on, absolute shit.

The only good film ive seen that guy in is the one with julia roberts, natalie portman and jude law and the only reason hes any good in that is because the character he plays is supposed to be this contemptable, immoral idiot and i think that he plays the character well because thats pretty much how he is in real life.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: mex on November 19, 2006, 10:01:45 AM
I think DC is a great choice for bond, He has  style he knows how to carry himself, and he has a coldness to him that the original bond books had.
As for the theme song, Its the best bond theme in years, The lyrics are great, and it feels like a bond theme. Connel actually cared about it, not like madonnas oh well i can make a few quid here effort.Connell said bond themes have to be timeless, i think he's done that.
Its times time bond went back to slapping people about being cocky and smashing sh*t up.
Thank god cheese  brosnan  has gone.

As for the poker, its bond it has to be ott, a 6 high straight beating top 2 pair just wouldn't work would it? might appeal to the 3% of poker nerds watching


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: The Baron on November 19, 2006, 04:10:47 PM
I think DC is a great choice for bond, He has  style he knows how to carry himself, and he has a coldness to him that the original bond books had.
As for the theme song, Its the best bond theme in years, The lyrics are great, and it feels like a bond theme. Connel actually cared about it, not like madonnas oh well i can make a few quid here effort.Connell said bond themes have to be timeless, i think he's done that.
Its times time bond went back to slapping people about being cocky and smashing sh*t up.
Thank god cheese  brosnan  has gone.

As for the poker, its bond it has to be ott, a 6 high straight beating top 2 pair just wouldn't work would it? might appeal to the 3% of poker nerds watching

Brosnan was as cheesey as the films and scripts they gave him.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: The Baron on November 19, 2006, 04:11:13 PM
Jude Law would have made a way better Bond. Or that dude out of Croupier.

I agree that jude law would have done the business as bond but that guy out of croupier is crap, and that is possibly the worst film ive ever seen, hes a novelist, croupier, hard nut, bank robber, it just goes on and on, absolute shit.

The only good film ive seen that guy in is the one with julia roberts, natalie portman and jude law and the only reason hes any good in that is because the character he plays is supposed to be this contemptable, immoral idiot and i think that he plays the character well because thats pretty much how he is in real life.

Clive Owen?

He's class!


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: bolt pp on November 19, 2006, 05:55:52 PM
Jude Law would have made a way better Bond. Or that dude out of Croupier.

I agree that jude law would have done the business as bond but that guy out of croupier is crap, and that is possibly the worst film ive ever seen, hes a novelist, croupier, hard nut, bank robber, it just goes on and on, absolute shit.

The only good film ive seen that guy in is the one with julia roberts, natalie portman and jude law and the only reason hes any good in that is because the character he plays is supposed to be this contemptable, immoral idiot and i think that he plays the character well because thats pretty much how he is in real life.

Clive Owen?

He's class!

LOL


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Sark79 on November 19, 2006, 05:58:48 PM
I am not keen on either,  Jude Law is no more than a pretty boy who isn't a good actor and Clive Owen is wooden.  I thought his acting was unique to the role of Croupier, then I realised this is the way he actually acts in everything else.  King Arthur was terrible,  Keira Knightley was the only highlight


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: bolt pp on November 19, 2006, 06:00:10 PM
I thought his acting was unique to the role of Croupier, then I realised this is the way he actually acts in everything else. 

Exactly


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Dingdell on November 19, 2006, 08:52:06 PM
I love the new bond film - saw it yesterday. The running scenes at the beginning are breathtaking.

Did anyone see Richard Branson's shot? Standing being searched at the airport as Bond goes in the opposite way? And - it really looked like Tony G as the barman - we all said it but we couldn't get a good look at him.

Next blondite to see it please let me know.
 :)


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: amcgrath1uk on November 19, 2006, 08:58:29 PM
Watched it late last night as well...total agreement to what you say..going to watch it properly ( ie not slaughtered) during the day on Tuesday!


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: thetank on November 20, 2006, 05:04:41 AM
I saw it last night Dingdell, thought I saw Branson at the airport too.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: LeKnave on November 20, 2006, 12:45:25 PM
I saw it last night Dingdell, thought I saw Branson at the airport too.

Thats odd, one if the guys i went to see it with said they saw his then, i just dismissed his opinion completely..


I thought the poker scenes were totally predictable and the $150m was stupid, but if u ignore the poker side of it, the film was pretty good.

 ;topman;


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: NoflopsHomer on November 20, 2006, 01:29:38 PM
I saw it last night Dingdell, thought I saw Branson at the airport too.

Going through the metal detector.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: boldie on November 20, 2006, 01:30:08 PM
I saw it last night Dingdell, thought I saw Branson at the airport too.

apparently (this was a rumour started a year or so ago) Branson paid to get a cameo in this.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Horneris on November 20, 2006, 10:17:45 PM
It was Branson obv. It said on the news the day before.

I also thought the film was good as a whole, but the poker scenes were ridicuolous and ultimate cooler after ultimate cooler transpired.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Dingdell on November 20, 2006, 10:24:04 PM
Found a link to explain
http://www.mi6.co.uk/news/index.php?itemid=4371


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Indestructable on November 24, 2006, 05:23:56 PM
I enjoyed the film and thought he makes a good Bond. One downside was the amount of product placement in the film, which winds me up generally.
As for the poker i think it worked for most of the audience which was packed. Trouble is for me that for the next ten minutes I was trying to work out how James Bond was still in the hand with the hand he had when there were three hands that would have obviously raised preflop unless of course he is a  ;flushy;
Can you imagine the chat box afterwards if it had been online if he had called a raise? :D


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: byronkincaid on November 24, 2006, 05:25:44 PM
"that's a nice watch, is it a rolex?"

"no, it's an omega"



Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Graham C on November 24, 2006, 05:27:50 PM
I loved it, great film

My favourite line was something along the lines of

You're not my type

What, smart?

No single

Made me chuckle :D

I liked the way all the guys in the cinema went "oooooo" as the nice lovely smashing wonderful sexy Aston was shown  ;kev;  *wants one*  *must win Stars promo*  ;kev;


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Scottish Dave on November 24, 2006, 05:32:12 PM
Havent read any of this thread as yet, in case something is given away.......i am about to leave soon, to go see it tonight with janet.

ill post later.

really looking forward to it


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: ThinkerJE on November 25, 2006, 12:31:17 AM
I thought it was excellent.  Totally different and went a long way to explain how Bond(Craig) became Bond(Connery et al).  Fantastic action scenes, no cheesey one liners, Bond making mistakes and being vunerable, it had it all.  Poker scenes totally predictable but did not spoil it.  Way too much product placement, Branson definitely at aiport and virgin plane taking off, mobile phones and laptops everywhere.  Anyway still fantastic, in fact I'm off to see it again, can't wait for the DVD release with all the usual Bond extras.

Favourite lines;

Bond (to barman); "Vodka Martini"
Barman;  "Shaken or stirred"
Bond;  "Do I look like I'm bothered"

Classic!!!

(sorry if not word perfect but you know which scene I mean)


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Dingdell on November 26, 2006, 06:32:04 PM
I thought it was excellent.  Totally different and went a long way to explain how Bond(Craig) became Bond(Connery et al).  Fantastic action scenes, no cheesey one liners, Bond making mistakes and being vunerable, it had it all.  Poker scenes totally predictable but did not spoil it.  Way too much product placement, Branson definitely at aiport and virgin plane taking off, mobile phones and laptops everywhere.  Anyway still fantastic, in fact I'm off to see it again, can't wait for the DVD release with all the usual Bond extras.

Favourite lines;

Bond (to barman); "Vodka Martini"
Barman;  "Shaken or stirred"
Bond;  "Do I look like I'm bothered"

Classic!!!

(sorry if not word perfect but you know which scene I mean)

I'm sure thst is the scene with the poker player as the barman.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: mex on November 26, 2006, 10:30:58 PM
THE OMEGA WATCH SCENE/LINE ISN'T PRODUCT PLACEMENT.

Bond in has always worn omega watches for a specific reason (usually a seamaster), this film is establising his character, (hence the voka martin recipie).

So Bond pointing out his watch make is part of this.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: byronkincaid on November 26, 2006, 11:09:21 PM
THE OMEGA WATCH SCENE/LINE ISN'T PRODUCT PLACEMENT.

Bond in has always worn omega watches for a specific reason (usually a seamaster), this film is establising his character, (hence the voka martin recipie).

So Bond pointing out his watch make is part of this.


Omega won't have had to pay any money for that line then?


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: boldie on November 27, 2006, 10:48:22 AM
THE OMEGA WATCH SCENE/LINE ISN'T PRODUCT PLACEMENT.

Bond in has always worn omega watches for a specific reason (usually a seamaster), this film is establising his character, (hence the voka martin recipie).

So Bond pointing out his watch make is part of this.


Omega won't have had to pay any money for that line then?

actually...the last 4 or 5 Bond movies (especially this one) would never have been made if it wasn't for product placement. But they say they have never taken any money (like from Aston) for using the products...they just get loads and loads of products to use for the movie ...and I'm sure they never keep any of them for later private use...really. (Would be funny though being someone who brings everyone coffee on the set and getting an Aston and an Omega for yourtroubles...on top of your 5.50 an hour ;)


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: byronkincaid on November 27, 2006, 10:55:23 AM
Quote
Twenty companies will see their products on the big screen, having paid between them $70m (£44m) for the privilege

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2488151.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2488151.stm)


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Jon MW on November 27, 2006, 11:16:57 AM
They got 3 of the modern Astons for the film, they totalled 2 of them. When it's rolling (as seen in the trailer) - that really is the Aston, they didn't use a cheap double.  :D


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Dingdell on November 27, 2006, 12:34:24 PM
Grown men were crying at the cinema


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: mex on November 28, 2006, 12:04:32 AM
They used 6 Astons, in total for various shots.(and had to pay as far as i know) And as for  paying for the line about the omega, Bonds always used an omega, infact it may actually be in the original book,(i believe fleming had a thing about them) as stated it was like the vodka martin line establishing Bonds prefrences. Lets face it Omega don't need to product place a product that is highly desirable, just as Aston Martin don't need to Advertise the DBS.

Note how Aston won't lend cars for Rap stars for video's.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Rooky9 on December 08, 2006, 01:08:41 AM
Okkay havent read through the whole thread but did anyone spot the guest appearance during the film? (ie famous person as an extra) There was definatly one but I think I saw another too.

Any guesses?


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: thetank on December 08, 2006, 01:25:13 AM
Was it when Dicky Branson waved at the camera and sais "Hi Mom"?


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Rooky9 on December 08, 2006, 01:29:48 AM
I was playing poker at the time so if that actually happened I didnt see it! Right man, in the airport security bit. Nice bit of product placement there too.

Also, maybe Flushy knows this, they roll a plane out of a hanger and I'm convinced that isnt a real type of plane - but surely they wouldnt knock one up just for that scene?!


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Royal Flush on December 08, 2006, 03:27:34 AM
I was playing poker at the time so if that actually happened I didnt see it! Right man, in the airport security bit. Nice bit of product placement there too.

Also, maybe Flushy knows this, they roll a plane out of a hanger and I'm convinced that isnt a real type of plane - but surely they wouldnt knock one up just for that scene?!

Not scene it yet, what is peculiar about it?


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Rooky9 on December 08, 2006, 08:55:04 AM
I was playing poker at the time so if that actually happened I didnt see it! Right man, in the airport security bit. Nice bit of product placement there too.

Also, maybe Flushy knows this, they roll a plane out of a hanger and I'm convinced that isnt a real type of plane - but surely they wouldnt knock one up just for that scene?!

Not scene it yet, what is peculiar about it?

It has a larger upper deck than a 747 but shorter than a 380. It has two engines on each wing that are mounted right next to each other.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Rooky9 on December 08, 2006, 06:45:36 PM
fibre glass add ons....


http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/2006/07/07/Navigation/179/207680/Picture+James+Bond+film+Casino+Royale+features+modified+Boeing.html


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Royal Flush on December 08, 2006, 07:28:29 PM
fibre glass add ons....


http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/2006/07/07/Navigation/179/207680/Picture+James+Bond+film+Casino+Royale+features+modified+Boeing.html

That would be why we didn't recognise it then!


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: AndrewT on December 13, 2006, 10:25:26 AM
Finally got around to seeing this last night and I have to say I was very impressed with it - Daniel Craig really did bring an 'edge' to Bond which bodes well for the future. I also loved how he managed to show Bond's development through the film, from cocky arrogant git to a more considered confidence.

As for the poker scenes, these were actually better than I was expecting, though I do think Bond should have shot Le Chiffre there and then for the slowroll of the Jacks. Also, the other players at the table didn't seem to be able to act like poker players either - it looked liked the softest $10m STT ever.


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: Jon MW on December 13, 2006, 10:34:39 AM
...though I do think Bond should have shot Le Chiffre there and then for the slowroll of the Jacks...

Funding international terrorism and trying to rig the stockmarket with his own bombings are one thing, but this is what really proves that he's an evil genius. :D


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: matt674 on December 13, 2006, 10:38:46 AM
Okkay havent read through the whole thread but did anyone spot the guest appearance during the film? (ie famous person as an extra) There was definatly one but I think I saw another too.

Any guesses?

I've not seen the film but i'm going to plump a guess for Indestructable - he gets on every tv show thats ever made, especially where there's gambling involved!! ;D


Title: Re: Casino Royale
Post by: AndrewT on December 13, 2006, 10:48:42 AM
...though I do think Bond should have shot Le Chiffre there and then for the slowroll of the Jacks...

Funding international terrorism and trying to rig the stockmarket with his own bombings are one thing, but this is what really proves that he's an evil genius. :D

Indeed - sometimes people just cross the line.