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Ive just been reading an article on msn that suggests it is and to be honest it does look a bit fishy.

It suggests that Simon Cowell's voice coaches were grooming Leona BEFORE the auditions.

It also says there is footage of Eton Road and Ray rehearsing together that suggests he was originally in the band and that the band was manufactured.

Also this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVq_g9NyQUM would suggest that Simon Cowell has known Anthony Hannah (the spooky one in Eton Road) for at least 3 years.

I think my dreams of one day being "discovered" have just been shattered :-(

It will be a fix if Leona doesnt win it :)

I agree totally but does it not scream of a set-up if she was being coached BEFORE the auditions?

She's been trying to make it as a singer for years and dont people get voice coached to help them do that?

Nothing wrong with a rookie singer getting coached IMO

I've lost 50 quid so yes, it must be a fix.

Yes... but it was Simon Cowells voice coaches who were helping her.

Let me guess......The MacDonald brothers  rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao

Eh?

I am confused how can the show be fixed? I don't watch it but my understanding is its a reality show (tosh) where they choose a singer to give a contract too.

Is that right?

rather than a fix, i think it is set up to give a certain performer the best chance to win whetehr down to coaching or fashion etc, but utlimately down to the viewers/voters.

Casino Casino .... now THAT was a fix !! :D

Surely that's the point of the show though

Yes I think perhaps this is a better way of putting it.

The point I am trying to make Flushy is that we are led to believe that all the contestants are your average Joe Bloggs who have just walked in off the streets...this is obviously not the case.

we have never been led to beleive that 99.99999% of the acts that make it to the final 100 have walked in off the streets most have been trying to have a carear in the industry for a number of years

tank you should of gotten out when i did

i cleared £10 profit but laying off before last weeks show

That professional wrestling is a fix I reckon... :dontask:

dont be silly the undertaker rules

exactly the best are already going to have had some training.

Do you really think they audition all those people?

no there team audition them and send up the best and worst one to be seen by the judges

most auditionees wont even see the 3 judges

This is a tv series which is produced by Simon Cowell who has some bussiness deal with BMG/SONY who in turn will offer some £ 1 million worth of record deal (fully recoupable of course).

It is rather self evident that this programme, although based on public voting, is set to influence and manipulate the audience.
Genius money spinning idea.

Nothing more nothing else.

The way they choose songs/clothes for the contestants is not accidental and can be crucial in a voting numbers.

It is like saying that Big Brother or other reality shows do portray pple as close to reality as possible.

Media manipulation for public entertainment.  

Do we really care if those guys were coached before or not?  Most of them don't have much talent anyway, they all look to me like karaoke pub singers, but mind you, most of the so called hits are sung by bland, lacking in personality and talent wierdos. ( am i getting old? hmm perhaps)  ;tk;

Leona is the only one now who has some potential as a singer, let's just hope that sony/bmg won't make her into some sing a long artist.


If she loses it will be better for her anyway, as then she can pick better deal for herself and be more in control of her destiny.

If she wins, she will have to slave away for at least a year and do as told, which considering what Cowel has done so far in the music industry this might screw her for a while.]

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If she wins, she will have to slave away for at least a year and do as told, which considering what Cowel has done so far in the music industry this might screw her for a while.]


Don't you mean that Simon might screw her for a while

I thought there was a very interesting comment from Girls Aloud on Jonathan Ross's show on Friday when they said that Louis Walsh still earns money from them even though he has absolutely nothing to do with them any more.

Leona has quite clearly been the chosen one from the beginning which, personally, I have no problem with as she is far and away the most talented contestant in it. Cowell knows this and knows she should be a huge, long-term star, rather than a 'flash in the pan' act like Gareth Gates or a 'You look like that guy that won X-Factor - can I have a Big Mac and fries please' act like the middle-aged smarm Steve Somethingorother.

She's also been in the business for a while - here's two promo videos she did in 2004.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R4YS3CmB2w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R4YS3CmB2w)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJnpjip-iek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJnpjip-iek)

nope I said this not him.  I don't think he is capable of such acts.  This is my opinion, only mine, and might not be true.

I would have to say tho that I have seen rabid dogs slobber less

He says he picks some of their songs they release/record,. he continues to leech from them for 5 years after they were formed.

Least it pays for him and his boyfriends expensive lifestyle.

X factor isn't a fix... but they do manipulate the public...

Strictly come dancing is a FIX! Grrrrrrrrrr!!