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Don't come here to Ipswich, news gets worse by the day. What is wrong with the world?

Been happening for a long time - just that now we have quicker ways of communicating it.
It is horrible though.

what do you want to start with?


a serial killer of prostitutes on the loose?

a young lady from a well adjusted background becoming addicted to drugs and going on the game?

or men using prostitutes full stop?

After looking at the Cambridge Evening News i can say Cambridge looks pretty tame .
Though i was disgusted to say a 21 year old man was  sexually assaulted by 3 men !!! i agree with whats the world coming too  >:( :( >:(

I agree that there are some weird people out there but the sensationalist media doesn't help, it's a bit like the rash crop of dog attacks that appeared recently in the media, it also happened maybe ten years ago, on the front pages constantly, but in the middle of these two outbreaks are we to assume no dogs attacked children?
The same goes with all crimes, i was listening to a radio program and statistics show that children are no more likely to be attacked/kidnapped etc. now than they were 40 years ago. So why am i afraid to let my two daughters out of my sight? All down to the media? or are we just more informed at my eldest daughters age i used to have run of the village where i live, now in the same village i refuse to let her out of my road. Unless she is going to a specific friends and she has her phone with her.
Rant over been a long day

What a great post!!!!

The attacks may be the same frequency but it is also a lot harder to make these attacks due to the caution mothers take these days.

I am not saying i don't agree with you, i studied at A-Level in media studies (what a joke, lol) and a major part of that was how the media deals with crime. Just don't fall into the camp of relying on 1 stat!

Obviously I'm well qualified to comment on this from both angles. Yes, the media will seize on this, especially as it is an otherwise news-free period at the moment. However, what makes this story different - and one of the reasons it is getting wall-to-wall coverage on Sky at the moment - is because this is Suffolk. Had these terrible murders been committed in London, Manchester etc, I don't believe they would be getting the media so excited. But sleepy Suffolk is different. That, I'm afraid, is the hypocricy of the media.
Pretty ironic that I gave up national newspaper journalism in the summer to live the poker dream, and now have one of the year's biggest stories on my own doorstep! Now police say they are concerned about a FIFTH prostitute missing. Good grief.

And fathers caution too (it's only weekends i'm a lady). <<Joke if my wife is reading

why not bring back the death penalty ,theres DNA you cant get away from proof like this .
these people and the ones that hurt old women /men /kids deserve no better treatment .
id gladly do this if theycant find anyone to do it .

You may find you will have to join a rather long queue

Yes i meant a parents caution, i am in a very lazy mood today, lol.

You get the point though.

Also, because it concerns prostitutes it allows the tabloids to blow the dust from their RIPPER ON THE LOOSE headlines which they put into storage once Peter Sutcliffe got locked up.

very true

I must say just reread my original post and failed to say that it is a terrible situation all the same media hype or not.

I think we took that as implied - no one wants to see women abducted and murdered.

in Ipswich. This is getting ridiculous

Yep, it's a bit disturbing.

Bloody hell - now it's five

My man is on holiday at the mo and even he mentioned it. Horrible stuff.

At the risk of indulging in groundless speculation, it seems to me that this is the work of some guy that just decided he wanted to be a serial killer, rather than an out of control lunatic. There's no mutilation, no sexual assault (at least none reported so far), just women abducted and killed.

There was a guy a few years ago, Colin Ireland, who was like this. He read somewhere that the police don't deem someone a serial killer until they've killed five people. So he went out and killed five people over a fairly short period of time. He selected gay men into S&M as his victims because the very nature of that world meant managing to anonymously isolate a victim was fairly easy. I think the same sort of thinking would apply to prostitutes.

Of course, this doesn't make his crimes any less bad - it's still a scary time to be a lone woman in Suffolk.

I agree Andrew. I think this guy must've read lots about Jack the Ripper because this situation is very similar. I feel sorry for the prostitutes, they must be so scared right now, but they have to carry on with their 'job' because for most that's the only way they can make money. It's a very sad and shocking story. :(

The fact that all these women (and nearly all streetwalkers) are drug addicts is another scandal. One of the victims was reported missing by her 'boyfriend' after she didn't come home after work. You have to ask yourself what kind of boyfriend would happily see his girlfriend off to walk to streets.

I'd fully expect it to be another junkie happy that one of them is 'earning' for their next fix.

]Unfortunately all too true

What are you saying?

What is a scandal? That the victims are prostitutes? That some of them used drugs?

What do you know about these people that allows you to pass judgement on them?

Perhaps that is how the killer justifies his actions.

Excellent post. Agree totally with the sentiments behind it

They wouldnt be dead if it was made legal and above board...

hope no more are found its horrid.

Couldn't agree more. Legalize it with regulated brothels where the women receive proper health checks, have security, pay taxes and do not work in residential areas. Seems to work in other countries, and certainly people here in Ipswich would now approve.

I'm not sure you could say this. Even if legalized there would still be young women desperate for the cash for their next fix and potentially on the streets, legal or not, a man like this would still have the psychological disorder that compels him to commit these crimes.

But the point is that with a series of legalised brothels there would not need to be a designated "red light area" in a particular town. So in this case, even if one or two girls felt they had to walk the streets there would not be a focus area and a potential killer would have no idea where to start looking for 'em.

Legalized free drugs on NHS ?

Very tragic, sick circumstances as well.

But what pisses me off is all the bods on the news that couldnt give a shit about prostitutes before now asserting that the life life of a prostitute is hard, degrading and dangerous and that the precepitative factors sorounding prostitution are of the most deplorable nature, whereas two weeks ago the same mugs would readily tell you, just to get on t.v, how criminaly anti social the world of street prostitution is.

Instead of sympathising and expressing sorrow for the dead girls people want to get the violins out for any girl involved in street prostitution, not because their lives may be in immediete danger, but because its now considered trendy to say.."ahhh, poor street prostitues, its such a hard life", I happen to think they do have an exceptionally hard life and deserve all availible help and rehabilitation and always have, but what i'm seeing from all aspects of the brittish media is the worst kind of hypocrosy.

Whats wrong with legalising regulated brothels? If a girl feels she needs to have sex with men to make a living then so be it. It doesnt harm anyone at all. As long as everything is regulated, clean and out of peoples faces then there shouldn't be a problem. Drugs however seriously harm the person using them, harm people that the Drug addicts need to steal from and basically have a knock on effect for the whole community.

I know 90% of prostitutes use drugs but if everything is in a regulated environment then it can be controlled.

Are you really saying lets legalize prostitution so that guys can pay to have sex with drug addicts who need the money, but don't legalize drugs coz they are bad for people ?

I agree Simon its not nice living here at the moment. With all that went on at the weekend in the nightclub ad now this, it is very sad for Ipswich.

I live my primary school years in the Broke Hall area of Ipswich and there was never any problems and you couldn't ever imagine something like this would happen. I live in Bury St Edmunds now so just up the road but it has a knock on effect to me. My mum is a police inspector at Bury and is not likely to get home from work today until very late. My ex-girlfriend has also had an issue today which could be related to the case. She lives in Manningtree. (i must stress she is not/nor has ever been a prostitute!)

Lets hope it all clears up soon so we can feel a lot more confident about our welfare

Not for my own benefit, no. But for the benefit of the prostitutes who are forced towards prostitution to pay for their drugs. Theres nothing physically harmful about having sex with someone  (no jokes please) as long as its safe. So if prostitutes were given a safe environment to carry their work out in then they would be a lot safer. They could also have easier access to people who could help their addiction. I think it would also go some of the way to help eradicate drugs aswell.

You won't eradicate drugs.

People have always used drugs and always will.

Some are legal, some are not, which drugs are legal and which are not depends on the fashion at the time and not much else.

Drugs don't create criminals, drug laws do.

Care to explain what you mean by this?

If you use an illegal drug then you are a criminal, as is anyone involved in the buying, selling and production of the drug.

If the drugs are legal then none of those people are commiting a crime.

Unless i have missed the point , if there are legalised brothels the killer would know exactly where to look. Instead of easy targets , hasn't this killer just got a problem with this type of person?

Maybe his girlfriend/wife cleared off with the local barman and not being of sane mind has classed her as a prostitute and wanted revenge on all.

Also it is a bit harsh as to class prostitutes as drug addicts, while no doubt a great percentage may be, don't forget there are a lot of foriegn girls that come to this country and turn to prostitution just to make ends meet.

At the end of the day i just hope there are no more bodies.

I do not believe that the drugs are the biggest factor. People spend as much on other addictions as they do on illegal ones without resorting to criminal activity.

I suppose i have known working alcoholics but when you get to a serious drug dependency thats costing £200 plus a day not many normal jobs pay that sort of income and you can't generally pay a dealer with a credit card unlike an addiction like shopping gambling drinking.

Bang on - Queen Victoria had Hashish, Cocaine & Heroin (afaicr) in her personal medicine kit (stash)..... banned now not for our safety, but because governments panicked in the 60s that people might refuse to be governed. Alcohol's as dangerous as pharmaceutical heroin, but the govt makes too much off it.

The fact that drugs are illegal hasn't stopped them being available in every town in the country and even every prison. All it has done is inflate the price and create a generation of gangsters who provide it.

If the drug was legal it wouldn't cost £200 a day, the user would find it easier to get employment and proper treatment for their addiction.

Most of the problems are caused by the drug being illegal not by the drug itself.

Oh dear i feel my arguments been out gunned by a donkey. I now feel like an ass

the point being he would know where to look but would not be able to kill. Well, he might once but that would be the end of it.

This is a horrible crime, Mum just got back in from work and despite 5 bodies being found they have just found out two more known 'street workers' that have gone missing. Its getting sicker and the workload is huge on Suffolk Police. Like Simon says, nothing like this ever happens in Sleepy Suffolk and unfortunatly you cannot really prepare for whats happening.

I know you shouldnt laugh, but the sky news coverage is soooooooo funny, they have now sent their intrepid journo's onto the streets of Bradford to talk to prostitutes about the similarity with the Yorkshire ripper case   .......

"So this must be bringing back memories of the dark days of the Yorkshire ripper"

(In broad Yorkshire accent) " I know, I mean... Ipswich int that far from here is it"


Try bloody walking it !!!!

Not being funny but if any of the Bradford ladies are still working that remember the ripper times, they must have good plastic surgeons

They will catch this person eventually, sooner rather than later of course. It is very difficult to get away with any kind of crime these days, especially something as terrible as these killings. I watched a TV show on C5 last month about a forensic expert on plants who could trace people using samples of seeds, etc found at  specific locations. Forensics is an interesting subject area and the people involved in it must be worth their weight in gold at the moment.  Lets just hope they catch the idiot soon