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SuffolkPunch
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December 12, 2006, 08:42:47 PM »
But the point is that with a series of legalised brothels there would not need to be a designated "red light area" in a particular town. So in this case, even if one or two girls felt they had to walk the streets there would not be a focus area and a potential killer would have no idea where to start looking for 'em.
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December 12, 2006, 08:46:15 PM »
Legalized free drugs on NHS ?
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December 12, 2006, 08:46:40 PM »
Very tragic, sick circumstances as well.
But what pisses me off is all the bods on the news that couldnt give a shit about prostitutes before now asserting that the life life of a prostitute is hard, degrading and dangerous and that the precepitative factors sorounding prostitution are of the most deplorable nature, whereas two weeks ago the same mugs would readily tell you, just to get on t.v, how criminaly anti social the world of street prostitution is.
Instead of sympathising and expressing sorrow for the dead girls people want to get the violins out for any girl involved in street prostitution, not because their lives may be in immediete danger, but because its now considered trendy to say.."ahhh, poor street prostitues, its such a hard life", I happen to think they do have an exceptionally hard life and deserve all availible help and rehabilitation and always have, but what i'm seeing from all aspects of the brittish media is the worst kind of hypocrosy.
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December 12, 2006, 08:54:07 PM »
Quote from: CelticGeezeer on December 12, 2006, 08:46:15 PM
Legalized free drugs on NHS ?
Whats wrong with legalising regulated brothels? If a girl feels she needs to have sex with men to make a living then so be it. It doesnt harm anyone at all. As long as everything is regulated, clean and out of peoples faces then there shouldn't be a problem. Drugs however seriously harm the person using them, harm people that the Drug addicts need to steal from and basically have a knock on effect for the whole community.
I know 90% of prostitutes use drugs but if everything is in a regulated environment then it can be controlled.
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December 12, 2006, 08:58:04 PM »
Are you really saying lets legalize prostitution so that guys can pay to have sex with drug addicts who need the money, but don't legalize drugs coz they are bad for people ?
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December 12, 2006, 08:58:19 PM »
I agree Simon its not nice living here at the moment. With all that went on at the weekend in the nightclub ad now this, it is very sad for Ipswich.
I live my primary school years in the Broke Hall area of Ipswich and there was never any problems and you couldn't ever imagine something like this would happen. I live in Bury St Edmunds now so just up the road but it has a knock on effect to me. My mum is a police inspector at Bury and is not likely to get home from work today until very late. My ex-girlfriend has also had an issue today which could be related to the case. She lives in Manningtree. (i must stress she is not/nor has ever been a prostitute!)
Lets hope it all clears up soon so we can feel a lot more confident about our welfare
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Quote from: CelticGeezeer on December 12, 2006, 08:58:04 PM
Are you really saying lets legalize prostitution so that guys can pay to have sex with drug addicts who need the money, but don't legalize drugs coz they are bad for people ?
Not for my own benefit, no. But for the benefit of the prostitutes who are forced towards prostitution to pay for their drugs. Theres nothing physically harmful about having sex with someone (no jokes please) as long as its safe. So if prostitutes were given a safe environment to carry their work out in then they would be a lot safer. They could also have easier access to people who could help their addiction. I think it would also go some of the way to help eradicate drugs aswell.
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Wardonkey
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December 12, 2006, 09:13:51 PM »
You won't eradicate drugs.
People have always used drugs and always will.
Some are legal, some are not, which drugs are legal and which are not depends on the fashion at the time and not much else.
Drugs don't create criminals, drug laws do.
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December 12, 2006, 09:33:34 PM »
Quote from: Wardonkey on December 12, 2006, 09:13:51 PM
Drugs don't create criminals, drug laws do.
Care to explain what you mean by this?
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December 12, 2006, 09:38:10 PM »
Quote from: Jim-D on December 12, 2006, 09:33:34 PM
Quote from: Wardonkey on December 12, 2006, 09:13:51 PM
Drugs don't create criminals, drug laws do.
Care to explain what you mean by this?
If you use an illegal drug then you are a criminal, as is anyone involved in the buying, selling and production of the drug.
If the drugs are legal then none of those people are commiting a crime.
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December 12, 2006, 09:41:17 PM »
Quote from: Wardonkey on December 12, 2006, 09:38:10 PM
Quote from: Jim-D on December 12, 2006, 09:33:34 PM
Quote from: Wardonkey on December 12, 2006, 09:13:51 PM
Drugs don't create criminals, drug laws do.
So all the burglaries, shop lifting, prostitution, muggings etc commited by drug addicts to get money for their next fix is not caused by the drugs?
Care to explain what you mean by this?
If you use an illegal drug then you are a criminal, as is anyone involved in the buying, selling and production of the drug.
If the drugs are legal then none of those people are commiting a crime.
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December 12, 2006, 09:42:40 PM »
Quote from: SuffolkPunch on December 12, 2006, 08:42:47 PM
But the point is that with a series of legalised brothels there would not need to be a designated "red light area" in a particular town. So in this case, even if one or two girls felt they had to walk the streets there would not be a focus area and a potential killer would have no idea where to start looking for 'em.
Unless i have missed the point , if there are legalised brothels the killer would know exactly where to look. Instead of easy targets , hasn't this killer just got a problem with this type of person?
Maybe his girlfriend/wife cleared off with the local barman and not being of sane mind has classed her as a prostitute and wanted revenge on all.
Also it is a bit harsh as to class prostitutes as drug addicts, while no doubt a great percentage may be, don't forget there are a lot of foriegn girls that come to this country and turn to prostitution just to make ends meet.
At the end of the day i just hope there are no more bodies.
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Wardonkey
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December 12, 2006, 09:53:01 PM »
Quote from: barhell on December 12, 2006, 09:41:17 PM
So all the burglaries, shop lifting, prostitution, muggings etc commited by drug addicts to get money for their next fix is not caused by the drugs?
I do not believe that the drugs are the biggest factor. People spend as much on other addictions as they do on illegal ones without resorting to criminal activity.
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December 12, 2006, 09:59:31 PM »
Quote from: Wardonkey on December 12, 2006, 09:53:01 PM
Quote from: barhell on December 12, 2006, 09:41:17 PM
So all the burglaries, shop lifting, prostitution, muggings etc commited by drug addicts to get money for their next fix is not caused by the drugs?
I do not believe that the drugs are the biggest factor. People spend as much on other addictions as they do on illegal ones without resorting to criminal activity.
I suppose i have known working alcoholics but when you get to a serious drug dependency thats costing £200 plus a day not many normal jobs pay that sort of income and you can't generally pay a dealer with a credit card unlike an addiction like shopping gambling drinking.
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December 12, 2006, 10:04:21 PM »
Quote from: Wardonkey on December 12, 2006, 09:38:10 PM
Quote from: Jim-D on December 12, 2006, 09:33:34 PM
Quote from: Wardonkey on December 12, 2006, 09:13:51 PM
Drugs don't create criminals, drug laws do.
Care to explain what you mean by this?
If you use an illegal drug then you are a criminal, as is anyone involved in the buying, selling and production of the drug.
If the drugs are legal then none of those people are commiting a crime.
Bang on - Queen Victoria had Hashish, Cocaine & Heroin (afaicr) in her personal medicine kit (stash)..... banned now not for our safety, but because governments panicked in the 60s that people might refuse to be governed. Alcohol's as dangerous as pharmaceutical heroin, but the govt makes too much off it.
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