blonde poker forum

it may be hearsay but ive heard 2007 brings 10% juice to EVERY GROV TOURNEY,BIG OR SMALL.even the gukpt final £3,500 buy in £350 juice.from a good source,i dont think  poker players will be to happy,,,,even the £2.00 learner nights get set for £1.00 juice serious anyone heard anymore on this????

50% juice??

as it happens thats the minimum they can charge is a £1.00  serious post snoopi found out today for 100%
tbh i think its fair i dont think they get anything out of it anyway

your good source best tell them organsiers in Bolton then:

Buy – In £1000 +£50

it starts april end of financial year, good source....

Watch it Flushy, he's 47-1 (I beat him yesterday)

Well how come the Manchester event in April, Brighton in May, Newcastle in July, Luton in August, Plymouth in September, London in October and Blackpool in November all say £1000+£50?

right me and you outside now,youd better go and warm up .i will be there in 5 minutes

Says who? £5 events have 50p juice

Will you be bringing your source along?

i tell you what m8,,,how about this if they dont try to juice it up to 10% by the end of 2007 we will both do a forfiet if im wrong i will pay for you to go in main event of the gukpt and if your wrong you pay for me ?how about that for a nice wager ? tikay will stand on for me

who you ringing ? lol cat tounge spring to mind lol

from next yearsome time

Would it not be fairer to settle the disagreement in a bare knuckle fight?

I am trying to work out what "tikay will stand on for me" means tbh!

lmao snoops your bonkers im past all that now id rather pay someone like "shotgun shane collinson" lmao he can have a go

avent you ever heard of that m8 ?he will stand on for me ?guarantee the bet that id pay

Well i don't ask for people to guarantee bets for me, would that be a problem for you?

seriously getting back to the subject>>>>a lot of the staff at the grov went potty saying this will cause a lot of hardship on their ears as the end up dealing with the punter,,its really gonna happen m8 or they are going to try it ,,it was in a big end of year meeting last week.

Oh shane? I beat him last week. He's rubbish.

its a very well known saying around the country that if you wanna bet with someone and you dont know them you normally say someone who knows the both of you will stand on for the bet if me or you didnt pay,a bit like a gaurantor.i cant beleive youve never heard of that.
as to it being a problem for me, for you to bet me £3,500 and i dont know you ,you wouldnt need anyone to stand on for you coz im sure id find you lol.you dont arf get touchy

http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=105&ArticleID=1222195 (http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=105&ArticleID=1222195)

I reckon Flushy could take him with one hand tied behind his back in a fight, but he'd have no chance playing heads up poker :D

stand up guy,hes either out first or he wins it,big pal with the dave ulliott

I was just wondering why you felt the need to have someone back it up, your word is enough for me but i decline on the offer.

its a figure of speech

it will need a change in the las

at present casinos can only charge a max of 10% or £50 which ever is the lesser

this is gaming law

Also saw on another forum that the staff are expected to strike on new years eve - a dispute over pay rises.

http://www.ukpokerinfo.co.uk/index.php?news=334


It wont be just grosvenors, Gala has already introduced this in Leicester + 10% reg fee

The worst thing is they could if they wanted to charge this per hour!!! In effect the longer you last in the tourny the more you are expected to pay, this is worse case scenario, but legitamate!!!!?!!

There is also no legal cap, although some casinos will cap. These charges will sweep the cardrooms in casinos ala reg fees, if there is no protest then this will be accepted as the norm within 6 months!! IMO!!

10% is the max reg fee with a cap of £50

However this is a session charge for use of the cardroom!!

think i am going to start asking for a table in the dinning area considering most casinos use the dinning area as a splill over

That view is incorrect now, imo. I think you will find the GC Guidelines suggest Venues can now charge whatever they wish. (i.e.,what the market will stand). This is a good thing -  "market forces", left to themselves, will ALWAYS get it right.

So if all the grey area poker rooms get shut down and there are what 2 or 3 casino chains running poker tourneys, it will all be right? Why does everyone complain about how much the WSOP charges? seems like casinos are slowly getting round to the idea of adding money but are just gonna take it back through higher charges. are there enough differently owned casinos to have an efficient market?

That's my whole point Byron, & I think you are missing it, though I have made it badly.

No, there may not be enough "variety" of Casino Groups, licensed or Grey, but the market will always adjust accordingly & get these things in balance. That's how supply & demand works.

I see no point in fretting about possibly increased Reg Fees or Session Fees. If they are reasonable, folks will tolerate them, if they are not, they will not, and another solution will present itself.

Think Marks & Sparks. Brand Leader until 10 years ago, then they got it wrong, & everyone deserted them. They went back to basics, sorted it out, now they are in recovery mode.

If Casinos get it wrong, they will lose their custom - us. There are SO many alternative ways for us to spend our money.

The Casino Groups have invested fortunes & I don't think they will get it wrong, but if they do, so be it, we'll be on our toes & spending our money somewhere else. It's a simple equation, to my mind.

Merry Christmas, by the way.

xx

I failed my economics A-Level but it seems to me that if there is a sky high demand for poker then you can charge a high price for it right?

Doesn't really matter to me being an internet donk of course.

Merry Christmas :)up

I agree Tikay, like anything else if you leave a market to sort itself out with no government interference it will work itself out. The nature of a free market economy.

Correct - sky-high demand, so the market will eventually provide sky-high quantities of supply! The Free Market at it's best. Over-Suppy kicks in then, & the whole cycle starts again. A wonderful thing to behold, perfect in every way.

That's just a terrible Post Flushy - you & me agreeing 100% on something!

Free Markets left to themselves, are something exquisitely beautiful to behold, & it's such a shame that Governments, for example, can't leave things alone & allow Nature to take it's course.

Hence we have the ridiculous constraints imposed by the Gaming Commission, the impossibly badly structured Network Rail & Strategic Rail Authority, TfL making a right mess of infrastructure maintenance & renewal, da de da de da.

lol, ty.

I am an economic idealist, i would love to see an economy that is completely free from government intervention (except of course in the case of maintaining the market is fair, price fixing etc) the fact its taken this long for nationalized industry's to become private is a shame but its such a huge step in the right direction. The chaos that has ensued is almost like watching a teenager go through the years, it really will be interesting to watch things like the rail network improving over the next few years.

I think with the advent of the global community and especially the internet the acceleration to a free market is bound to happen, competition between companies in different countries will surely lead to the success of companies based in the most laissez-faire run governments.

I hope i made some sense with that, lol.

Exactly, if you wanna set up a legal cardroom then you have to go through all the crap that Rob Yong has gone through. It's not really a free market is it? There are huge barriers put in your way.

No, it's not a Free Market, but it will become one!

Here's Free Market v Government interference  demonstrated at it's best.

Railways. The TOC's (Train Operating Companies) are PRIVATE & have impoved their performance a zillion-fold in the last few years, despite constant interference from quangos & the SRA etc.

But the infrastructure (track, signalling, etc) are, effectively, Government-cotrolled. (Operated by, how bizarre is this? the "Not for Profit Network Rail"....).

So, for example, the Western Region is hugely in need of additional capacity, as in fact is almost the whole Railway Network, with traffic forecast to rise by 30% in 5 years. (Excellent for the congested road network, & Environmentally better, too). As things stand, the gestation period to increase the track network would be 25 years - but if you left it to the Private Sector, it would be in place within 5 years.

"Lumbering, heavy-footed organisation" versus "nimble, fleet footed commercial outfit" is beautifully demonstrated by Wembley Stadium  - was there ever a bigger cock-up, in terms of location, budget over-runs, time-over-runs - A YEAR LATE? - and the new "Emirates" Arsenal Stadium - beautifully constructed, an architectural wonder completed bang on time, & smack on budget.

I think I've maybe had too much sherry trifle.

Yeah it's amazing how much the rail network has improved in the last 5 years, people seem to forget that. I remember always expecting a delay with my journey, now, aslong as it is not the weekend, thing seem to always run on time!

maybe due to no strikes since 2002

I believe Midland MainLine, admittedlly not one of the busier or more complex Franchises, has 95% punctuality & 98%+ reliability in 2006. Not bad, all things considered. I imagine Wooly Jumper's service is a lot worse though.

The main thing now is the trains are clean and are heated! Its not so bad when you do have to wait.

I love blonde. It starts off as a thread about Grosvenor Casinos charges, & we've got it across to 100% Trains within 3 pages. Perfect!

The Free Market at it's best.

Can i claim this thread as more about the free market rather than trains, if i was caught engaging you in a conversation about trains kev would kill me.

Train strike today !!!

And the next person that mentions trains gets banned !!!

Sigh .....  MUG

For whom though, players or oganisers? Or, in an ideal world, both?

both

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