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Title: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: ifm on December 29, 2006, 06:01:35 PM
Anyone see this last night?
Taylor hammers Mason 4-0 and Mason turns nasty, what a stupid little twerp he is.

Taylors interview at the end was excellent stuff but threatening to quit over all these jealous neverwillbe's is not the way to go, he should just carry on smashing them all over the oche.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,3-2006600343,00.html


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: snoopy1239 on December 29, 2006, 06:33:43 PM
Crikey, what a plonker.

I'm a big fan of darts but have trouble catching it these days, especially the big ones in Jan which I look forward to each year.

Is any of this on youtube m8?


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Graham C on December 29, 2006, 06:34:11 PM
It wasn't the darts match that turned things nasty, it was comments by Mason in the press about Taylor.  I don't expect Mason liked having his arse kicked 4-0 though.  Taylor seems to get a lot of bad publicity from the other players.  I don't know any of the darts players, but it all seem down to jealousy to me and I feel sorry for him (Taylor)  He's without a doubt, the best darts player that we've ever seens and is a different class above the rest.  He's right when he says that it's not down to him to make up for the other players mistakes.

I quite liked this comment

“I’ve had a lot of stick over my Bentley car. Well, if players like him want one they should get off their backsides and go out and earn one — that’s what I had to do."

I guess being a class above the rest makes you a target and I do quite feel sorry for him.

Saying that, he may rub it in, I don't know.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: snoopy1239 on December 29, 2006, 06:35:55 PM
He's without a doubt, the best darts player that we've ever seen

Maybe even the most dominating man in sport full stop.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Sark79 on December 29, 2006, 06:37:48 PM
That is terrible,  Taylor is correct when he says they should just work harder if they want to win


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Jim-D on December 29, 2006, 06:38:10 PM
The best player the sport has EVER seen, And yet the pathetic typical british sport fans booed him on his entrance??


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Jim-D on December 29, 2006, 06:38:46 PM
He's without a doubt, the best darts player that we've ever seen

Maybe even the most dominating man in sport full stop.

Absolutely no question.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: totalise on December 29, 2006, 06:56:44 PM
The best player the sport has EVER seen, And yet the pathetic typical british sport fans booed him on his entrance??

a lot of people boo him because of his "caravan of love" exploits, and more importantly, because he bought Kim Marsh onto the stage a couple years ago to give her his darts. Shocking behaviour



Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: ifm on December 29, 2006, 07:57:03 PM
I quite liked this comment

“I’ve had a lot of stick over my Bentley car. Well, if players like him want one they should get off their backsides and go out and earn one — that’s what I had to do."


This is it, the guy is a millionaire yet he was quite prepared to drive from Stoke to our little pub in Birmingham to play an exhibition for a few hundred quid.
At the same time the landlord contacted Bobby George, Wayne Mardell, John Lowe and John Part.
He asked for memorabilia of any sort (signed photo's etc) to auction for charity, 2 never replied, Mardell said no, Taylor said he's come down and Bobby George phoned the pub and offered his services!!


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Graham C on December 29, 2006, 08:04:51 PM
Cool, he came down ?

I used to go to a boozer in Bracknell called The Bridge and one night, we walked in and there was loads of players playing darts.  We went for the footy so decided to leave after a quickie.   Some guy on the occy (ochie, occkie, okky? spelling :D) was wearing a Crafty Cockney shirt and I thought it was some guy just bigging himself up.  Anyway, he throws his 3 darts, gets them and turns around and it was the man himself! Eric in my old pub! 

Still left, there was a game to watch :D


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: snoopy1239 on December 29, 2006, 08:06:17 PM
I quite liked this comment

“I’ve had a lot of stick over my Bentley car. Well, if players like him want one they should get off their backsides and go out and earn one — that’s what I had to do."


This is it, the guy is a millionaire yet he was quite prepared to drive from Stoke to our little pub in Birmingham to play an exhibition for a few hundred quid.
At the same time the landlord contacted Bobby George, Wayne Mardell, John Lowe and John Part.
He asked for memorabilia of any sort (signed photo's etc) to auction for charity, 2 never replied, Mardell said no, Taylor said he's come down and Bobby George phoned the pub and offered his services!!

I'll come down for free.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Nem on December 29, 2006, 08:08:52 PM
Darts = LOL


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: BigTomatoes on December 29, 2006, 08:56:58 PM
 yeah he came to a local game in Scotland once to and played 7 exhibition games , my mates cousin actually beat him and he was only 15 at the time , he got signed photographs of himself and Taylor afterwards.
 
 I think hes a top bloke , plus he won me a few quid when i bet him to hit a 170 finish in last years final , only had to wait til the 2nd leg too.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Rooky9 on December 29, 2006, 09:06:10 PM
He's without a doubt, the best darts player that we've ever seen

Maybe even the most dominating man in sport full stop.

Absolutely no question.

Rodger Federer? when taking into account the greater margin for error in the game.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Jim-D on December 29, 2006, 09:11:46 PM
He's without a doubt, the best darts player that we've ever seen

Maybe even the most dominating man in sport full stop.

Absolutely no question.

Rodger Federer? when taking into account the greater margin for error in the game.

Good point sir.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Colchester Kev on December 29, 2006, 09:15:29 PM
Greater margin for error ??

Have you compared the size of a double to a tennis court ?


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Nem on December 29, 2006, 09:21:27 PM
Greater margin for error ??

Have you compared the size of a double to a tennis court ?

Even comparing Roger Federer to Phil Taylor is hilarious


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Sark79 on December 29, 2006, 09:22:32 PM
They are both highly tuned athletes


When you mention tennis,  did anyone hear that Martina Hingiss is getting married?    I had actually planned on winning the WSOP and getting her that way,   I will just have to settle for Kate Moss now instead.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Graham C on December 29, 2006, 09:47:46 PM
They are both highly tuned athletes
lol :D
When you mention tennis,  did anyone hear that Martina Hingiss is getting married?    I had actually planned on winning the WSOP and getting her that way,   I will just have to settle for Kate Moss now instead.
nooooo, gutted.  Kate is a lovely 2nd though :)

You can't compare a dartboard to a tennis court.  Fedderer is top notch too.  Tennis is such a varied game and he dominates on surfaces but clay and in that he's  a very close 2nd.  Darts is at least the same in every tournament, you can't easily compare the two.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: snoopy1239 on December 29, 2006, 09:50:27 PM
Federer hasn't dominated for 15 years. Nobody can compete with consistency like that.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Sark79 on December 29, 2006, 09:52:56 PM
Gary Kasparov dominated chess for about 25 years 


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Jim-D on December 29, 2006, 09:55:15 PM
Gary Kasparov dominated chess for about 25 years 

Is that a sport?


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Graham C on December 29, 2006, 10:26:51 PM
Feds has been dominating for a long time and it's at a sport that you tend not to have a 15 year career.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Royal Flush on December 29, 2006, 10:32:14 PM
Gary Kasparov dominated chess for about 25 years 

Is that a sport?

Is darts?


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: NoflopsHomer on December 29, 2006, 10:48:44 PM
Gary Kasparov dominated chess for about 25 years 

I've dominated my brother in fights for 20, does that count?


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Nem on December 29, 2006, 11:13:50 PM
Federer hasn't dominated for 15 years. Nobody can compete with consistency like that.

Darts is for fat, balding blokes.

One's Tennis career is shorter than a top footballers. A top men's player career, will not even last 15 years - unless your name is Agassi ;)


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Sark79 on December 29, 2006, 11:37:37 PM
Chess is a mind sport  :D


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Rooky9 on December 29, 2006, 11:58:33 PM
Firstly with Tennis you actually do dominate your opponents because they have a direct effect on your game - physically & mentally as opposed to just mentally like in darts. In terms of me saying margin for error it was in relation to being at your best and still winning, you can't afford to be poor because that directly increases your opponests game.

In terms of the domination Federer must be getting onto 3 or four years now? Like Silo said the career is far far shorter. (Bobby George went for what, 40 years? Talyor has been going well over 20)

We have a go at Americans calling their sports 'world series' etc, but in actual fact the sport will be followed by more in that country than the few hundered thousancd in Europe that play darts ~(plus John Part).



Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Royal Flush on December 30, 2006, 12:01:31 AM
'world series'

yeah i leant about that, World Series is not about the globe, it was originally sponsored by the World newspaper and the name stuck.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Rooky9 on December 30, 2006, 12:06:11 AM
'world series'

yeah i leant about that, World Series is not about the globe, it was originally sponsored by the World newspaper and the name stuck.

Fair do's...


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Graham C on December 30, 2006, 12:31:37 AM
'world series'

yeah i leant about that, World Series is not about the globe, it was originally sponsored by the World newspaper and the name stuck.

yes, I have heard this too

I concur.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: ifm on December 30, 2006, 01:05:23 AM
darts is actually a very rare sport in that it is entirely skill, no room for error at all.

Think about that for a minute, entirely skill, every other sport there is room for manouvre (sp?)


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: AndrewT on December 30, 2006, 01:53:02 AM
darts is actually a very rare sport in that it is entirely skill

Which is why someone is able to completely dominate it for so long - you can't 'get lucky' to beat Phil Taylor. The only way to beat him is to play better than him. Same with Federer, except that you may be able to catch him on a day when he's not completely fit (like Andy Murray did a few months back). That doesn't work with darts though, except for the exact opposite when Taylor blamed a defeat on being too fit (he'd lost weight and said it had affected his balance)


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: The Baron on December 30, 2006, 04:40:39 PM
In tennis you may get lucky with a call from a line judge or umpire or whatever though - that cannot happen in darts.

The only luck factor is who throws first in the first set.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Rooky9 on December 30, 2006, 04:46:21 PM
In tennis you may get lucky with a call from a line judge or umpire or whatever though - that cannot happen in darts.

The only luck factor is who throws first in the first set.

Come on!
A minimum of 72 points in a mens grand slam game - more likely to be more than double that - one piece of luck really doesnt outweigh the effect of not needing to be at your best to win.


Plus you are forgeting the luck of a cannon off the flight into the double to win!  ;)


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: The Baron on December 30, 2006, 05:01:24 PM
In tennis you may get lucky with a call from a line judge or umpire or whatever though - that cannot happen in darts.

The only luck factor is who throws first in the first set.

Come on!
A minimum of 72 points in a mens grand slam game - more likely to be virtually double that - one piece of luck really doesnt outweigh...


I'm just saying darts is without officiating errors unlike 99% of other sports.

Don't get me wrong... I'd much rather win a few tennis majors than 13 darts world titles!


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Rooky9 on December 30, 2006, 05:04:22 PM
Edited to try and work out how many points there would realistically be in a match... too cold to work it out.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Nem on December 30, 2006, 05:10:04 PM
In tennis you may get lucky with a call from a line judge or umpire or whatever though - that cannot happen in darts.

The only luck factor is who throws first in the first set.

Come on!
A minimum of 72 points in a mens grand slam game - more likely to be virtually double that - one piece of luck really doesnt outweigh...


I'm just saying darts is without officiating errors unlike 99% of other sports.

Don't get me wrong... I'd much rather win a few tennis majors than 13 darts world titles!

I would rather be a Pro Tennis player in the top 16 than 13 wolrd dart championship titles!


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: ifm on December 31, 2006, 12:30:43 PM
I would rather be a Pro Tennis player in the top 16 than 13 wolrd dart championship titles!

LOL how daft is that?
I'd rather have the ability to see into the future and play the lottery every week than play darts or tennis or golf or....................


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: ifm on December 31, 2006, 01:24:25 PM
BTW i put this on Gen Discussion because it is about respect/jealousy, poor ettiquette etc. not the sport itself.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Acidmouse on December 31, 2006, 03:25:41 PM
Mason has a history of violence what do you expect? just another  jealous idiot.

Taylor has earned the right to go about with a certain swagger.


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: matt674 on December 31, 2006, 07:46:33 PM
'world series'

yeah i leant about that, World Series is not about the globe, it was originally sponsored by the World newspaper and the name stuck.

The explanation is that when the term "World's Championship Series" was first used in the 1880s, baseball was almost exclusively confined to North America, especially the United States, at a high level. Thus it was understood that the winner of the major league championship was the best baseball team in the world. The title of this event was soon shortened to "World's Series" and later to "World Series".

The New York World, established in 1860 did used to report on the series games in the Championship series but were never official sponsors.

They did toy with the idea of allowing teams from other leagues around the world to participate, especially countries that used to have american forces on their soil but logistically in those days it was a non-starter and so whoever was crowned champion of America was regarded as the best team in the world (and despite baseball becoming popular in many latino countries and places like japan - the american teams still would come out on top)


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: matt674 on December 31, 2006, 07:47:07 PM
p.s. and Taylor will beat Barneveld 7-2 tomorrow


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Royal Flush on December 31, 2006, 08:26:39 PM
'world series'

yeah i leant about that, World Series is not about the globe, it was originally sponsored by the World newspaper and the name stuck.

The explanation is that when the term "World's Championship Series" was first used in the 1880s, baseball was almost exclusively confined to North America, especially the United States, at a high level. Thus it was understood that the winner of the major league championship was the best baseball team in the world. The title of this event was soon shortened to "World's Series" and later to "World Series".

The New York World, established in 1860 did used to report on the series games in the Championship series but were never official sponsors.

They did toy with the idea of allowing teams from other leagues around the world to participate, especially countries that used to have american forces on their soil but logistically in those days it was a non-starter and so whoever was crowned champion of America was regarded as the best team in the world (and despite baseball becoming popular in many latino countries and places like japan - the american teams still would come out on top)


God bless wikipedia


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: Nem on December 31, 2006, 08:29:49 PM
God bless wikipedia

Keith 'The Camel' Hawkins entry on wikipedia - which was edited after (I wonder who by...)

"He supports Barnstaple Town F.C. and is a passionate angler. He once made an unsuccessful appearance on Going For Gold and his favourite TV programme is Catchphrase. Keith is also the founder member of the "Dave Hill Appreciation Society".

His favourite food is lentil stew with salad, which he regularly makes for his best friend Vinnie Jones, using his favourite Delia Smith recipe. He was best man at Vinnie's wedding and godfather to all of Delia's thirteen children, including three Somalian refugees adopted by her.

Keith is an avid fitness fanatic and thinks nothing of running a half marathon before breakfast. In 2002 Keith ran a total of 4000 miles non stop in order to raise money for his favourite charity, Kentucky Fried Chicken. Keith managed to raise a staggering £4.50 and with his proceeds bought a large Zinger Tower Burger meal and shrewdly swapped the drink for a corn on the cob. He met his hero, Jimmy Saville, during this run and they have often been seen on TV running the London Marathon together. Infact they both buy their garish gold tracksuits from the same mentalist tailors.

His favourite film is Titanic, and every Sunday you will see Keith of the bow of a P&O Dover to Calais ferry, recreating the famous 'I'm the king of the world!' scene, as played by Leonardo Di Caprio. Infact many people believe that they are twins, separated at birth.

Keith's extensive working life has been fullsome and highly producitve. In 2002 Keith excelled himself whilst working for bucket shop online bookmakers, www.bluesquirrel.com. During a highly pressurised and intensely busy evening shift, Keith was charged with full responsibility for the three upcoming ladies tennis matches taking place in some pointless ATP event. Given very specific instructions by his boss, best friend and mentor Steve Tucker, that read very clearly: "All you have to do is suspend three matches. Thats it. Nothing else. Just suspend three matches when they start. It could not be any easier Keith".

Through sheer hard of watching TV and playing online poker, Keith successfully missed the start times of all three tennis matches, thus leading to utter chaos and carnage. Infact the losses amounted to nearly £1.6bn pounds, forcing the bookmakers to cut back on lunch expenses to a maximum of half a banana per staff member. Customer services had to emply 1400 new staff just to deal with the mess left by Mr Hawkins. This was by and away his most productive and successful day during his glorious spell at Blue Squirrel."


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: TightEnd on December 31, 2006, 08:39:02 PM
absolutely brilliant!


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: matt674 on December 31, 2006, 08:40:17 PM
God bless wikipedia

I knew the story about the world series not being named after a paper sponsoring it long before wikipedia came into existance - and i dont read anywhere in there about the commissioners plans to allow countries with american forces to play there either.

Yes some of it was a cut and paste job because i'm playing 2 tourneys and they put it better than i can :)


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: matt674 on December 31, 2006, 08:43:04 PM
Infact the losses amounted to nearly £1.6bn pounds, forcing the bookmakers to cut back on lunch expenses to a maximum of half a banana per staff member.

 :o

remind me never to apply for a job with Blue Squirrel!!


Title: Re: Darts last night : Phil Taylor v Chris Mason
Post by: RED-DOG on December 31, 2006, 11:04:29 PM
Gary Kasparov dominated chess for about 25 years 

I've dominated my brother in fights for 20, does that count?

I used to dominate my bro in fights until he turned 17, then he chinned me, knocked me cold as a tater.

We talk our problems through now...