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Title: Best Athletes?
Post by: Canuck on January 02, 2007, 08:44:28 PM
Had an interesting conversation with my finacees father and brothers over Christmas. We were talking about sports (obv) and her dad made a comment about the sport of hurling having the best athletes in the world. I spit my beer across the table in astonishment. I assured him this was not the case. The conversation went on for some time to say the least.

I realise this question is quite arbitrary in that we all have different definitions of athletes and what sports should be matched up to which, but if you had to choose which sport physically demands the most from its players, what would it be?


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Sark79 on January 02, 2007, 08:48:32 PM
I think dowhnill skiiers are great atheletes, they are strong and very fit.  X Country skiiiers are fantastically fit.  Rugby players are also very fit and boxers.  For me cyclists and triathelets are amazing when it comes to fitness


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: thetank on January 02, 2007, 08:56:38 PM
Boxers, as far as I'm concerned the only debate is as to what weight division has the best athletes.


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: bobby1 on January 02, 2007, 09:09:20 PM
Had an interesting conversation with my finacees father and brothers over Christmas. We were talking about sports (obv) and her dad made a comment about the sport of hurling having the best athletes in the world. I spit my beer across the table in astonishment. I assured him this was not the case. The conversation went on for some time to say the least.

I realise this question is quite arbitrary in that we all have different definitions of athletes and what sports should be matched up to which, but if you had to choose which sport physically demands the most from its players, what would it be?

Its a very tough question coz each sport can push players in different ways. The average top class career of a running back in the NFL is about 6 years due to the sheer volume of hits and work load that they are put through.

It is very rare to find a running back playing to a decent standard much after they are 30 years old, in fact Jerome Bettis retired last year after Pittsburgh won the Superbowl, this was 4 years after he had been given Monday to Friday off every week to allow his body to recover from each game.That is not too unusual in NFL either but I'm sure otehr sports can be just as tough.


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Graham C on January 02, 2007, 09:20:42 PM
Cycling


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: booder on January 02, 2007, 09:22:12 PM
shove ha'penny


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Tonji on January 02, 2007, 09:58:55 PM
Cycling

is right, at least the non dopers are.

strangely F1 drivers are also extremely fit.


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Nem on January 02, 2007, 10:15:52 PM
Nadal


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Sark79 on January 02, 2007, 10:18:37 PM
Cycling

is right, at least the non dopers are.

strangely F1 drivers are also extremely fit.



F1 drivers lose more weight during a race than a top tennis player does during a match.

Nadal is a great athelete.


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Nem on January 02, 2007, 10:27:31 PM
I would say Cross Country Skiers


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: thetank on January 02, 2007, 10:36:28 PM
Chun Li


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Sark79 on January 02, 2007, 10:51:07 PM
Chun Li


She was good about 10 years ago, but I think she may have lost her edge now. 

For lung capacity, the world champ free diver is awesome. I forget her name now, but she is the attractive blonde woman?


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Rod Paradise on January 02, 2007, 11:01:41 PM
I'd have said tennis, boxing or the UFC.

Hurlers? Some of the top real amateurs in one of the best real local sports. Shinty counts for the same.


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Bazzaboy on January 02, 2007, 11:27:33 PM
cycling


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: booder on January 03, 2007, 01:53:40 AM
iron man triathletes


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: AndrewT on January 03, 2007, 02:36:55 PM
Poker players must be in the top three, surely?

(http://www.clubpoker.net/images/contenu/poker/wsop/wsop2005/day1a/Photo%20004.jpg)


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Canuck on January 03, 2007, 02:50:01 PM
Poker players must be in the top three, surely?

(http://www.clubpoker.net/images/contenu/poker/wsop/wsop2005/day1a/Photo%20004.jpg)

I knew that was going to pop up as soon as I posted


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: boldie on January 03, 2007, 02:51:07 PM
this is quite a good debate..but one that has been settled already. I remember this program being on in which different top class athletes performed athletic challenges; Footie players, Gymnasts, weightlifters, track and field and martial artists.

The gymnast won hands down....they are something else when at the top of their game


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Acidmouse on January 03, 2007, 02:57:30 PM
Those people that do the triathlon seem fit.


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: CelticGeezeer on January 03, 2007, 02:58:37 PM
best at what


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: kinboshi on January 03, 2007, 03:27:51 PM
this is quite a good debate..but one that has been settled already. I remember this program being on in which different top class athletes performed athletic challenges; Footie players, Gymnasts, weightlifters, track and field and martial artists.

The gymnast won hands down....they are something else when at the top of their game

Gymnasts and boxers seem to approaching the all-round physical peak that the human body can achieve (IMHO).

Fitness is a different thing.  Fitness is essentially being fit for a task.  So a cruiserweight boxer might not be the best physical shape to run the 26 miles of a marathon - but I wouldn't fancy Haile Gebresselassie's chances in the ring with Clinton Woods.

Same goes for other events - rowers are incredibly fit, but rowers are big units.  Not as big as sumo wrestlers though, and it could be argued that they too are 'fit' for their purpose - although I don't think athletic is an adjective you'd associate with them...

Overall though, I'm with Boldie - gymnasts and boxers (obviously in joint second after poker players)


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: The Baron on January 03, 2007, 05:32:58 PM
World class athletics runners who don't take drugs.


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: marcro on January 03, 2007, 05:43:34 PM
Fitness is very specific to the sport, e.g. swimmers cannot run, runners cannot swim, boxers would be useless at cycling.  But if I had to pick who train the most and have it toughest it would be boxers.


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Jim-D on January 03, 2007, 05:45:55 PM
Fitness is very specific to the sport, e.g. swimmers cannot run, runners cannot swim, boxers would be useless at cycling.  But if I had to pick who train the most and have it toughest it would be boxers.

Unless ya names danny Williams


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: kinboshi on January 03, 2007, 05:52:32 PM
Fitness is very specific to the sport, e.g. swimmers cannot run, runners cannot swim, boxers would be useless at cycling.  But if I had to pick who train the most and have it toughest it would be boxers.

Unless ya names danny Williams

You can probably remove a lot of heavyweight boxers from that to be honest. 


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Sark79 on January 03, 2007, 06:07:50 PM
Remember the series Superstars.  Alan Baxter crushed everyone at that and he finnished a really close 2nd the year before he won the event.  The World version was won by Herman Maier and that included people such as Shane Mosely.  Skiiers are fantastic atheletes all round.  They are strong and have excellent stamina.


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: thetank on January 03, 2007, 08:03:00 PM

 I wouldn't fancy Haile Gebresselassie's chances in the ring with Clinton Woods.


 :D

You'd pay to see it though.


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: kinboshi on January 03, 2007, 08:14:48 PM
Remember the series Superstars.  Alan Baxter crushed everyone at that and he finnished a really close 2nd the year before he won the event.  The World version was won by Herman Maier and that included people such as Shane Mosely.  Skiiers are fantastic atheletes all round.  They are strong and have excellent stamina.

Brian Jacks would have had him for breakfast :D


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: kinboshi on January 03, 2007, 08:20:34 PM

 I wouldn't fancy Haile Gebresselassie's chances in the ring with Clinton Woods.


 :D

You'd pay to see it though.

I reckon Haile would want a fairly large ring, and might adopt an 'elusive' strategy.  It wouldn't be a toe-to-toe clash.

Talking of big men, World's Strongest Man is on Five now.  Big lads, throwing barrels about and lifting cars as easily as I lift a pint glass.


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Sark79 on January 03, 2007, 08:22:44 PM
Have you seen ......... .............?   He is Polish and has a name that is humanly impossible to pronounce, lol


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: kinboshi on January 03, 2007, 08:23:14 PM
Just call him sir!


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Sark79 on January 03, 2007, 08:23:59 PM
Sir is a great athelete


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: barhell on January 03, 2007, 08:27:55 PM
Have you seen ......... .............?   He is Polish and has a name that is humanly impossible to pronounce, lol
Mariusz Pudzianowski


Title: Re: Best Athletes?
Post by: Sark79 on January 03, 2007, 08:29:55 PM
That is the guy  :D .  We will just stick with Sir though, it is far easier