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Title: Settle a row for me please
Post by: TightEnd on January 18, 2007, 12:44:31 AM
Paul McKenna


Capital Radio DJ turned TV hypnotist turned multi-millionaire publisher of self help books/courses/tapes


view 1: the real deal, excellent winning advice to cure one of one's addictions

view 2: showbiz charlatan (dodgy correspondence course Dr qualifications for example) with a talent and flair for self promotion


and the truth is?


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: The Baron on January 18, 2007, 12:46:23 AM
Both?


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: TightEnd on January 18, 2007, 12:47:44 AM
Both?

quite possibly, but that won't settle the argument.


try again


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: RED-DOG on January 18, 2007, 12:48:50 AM
Option 2. Argument settled. Move on.


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: The Baron on January 18, 2007, 12:49:18 AM
If I had to choose it'd be number 2.

That doesn't mean he's not good at what he does and a very smart man though.


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: MadYank on January 18, 2007, 12:53:53 AM
(http://pic.templetons.com/brad/photo/bm03/fire/img_0926.jpg)


ALLU AHKBAR! I hijack your thread!


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: TightEnd on January 18, 2007, 12:59:12 AM
Kazzam, try that again sonny jim and I delete the post.



Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: byronkincaid on January 18, 2007, 01:00:06 AM
2


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: redimp on January 18, 2007, 01:03:32 AM
The guy has made alot of money that has to be said!

But if he stops just one person smoking,and gives them another 10 years of life,how can you knock him for this??


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: TightEnd on January 18, 2007, 01:05:02 AM

But if he stops just one person smoking,and gives them another 10 years of life,how can you knock him for this??


I am not necessarily. Actually I saw credence in both points of view, and leaned to 2 myself. Purely on his smarm factor lol


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: RED-DOG on January 18, 2007, 01:36:14 AM
The guy has made alot of money that has to be said!

But if he stops just one person smoking,and gives them another 10 years of life,how can you knock him for this??

Would he still give you those 10 years if you didn't pay him to do it?


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: MadYank on January 18, 2007, 01:40:11 AM
I thought everyone already accepted that smoking makes you look cool?

(http://members.aol.com/markjx/pix/zap_smoke_bnw.jpg)


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: tikay on January 18, 2007, 02:05:34 AM

But if he stops just one person smoking,and gives them another 10 years of life,how can you knock him for this??


I am not necessarily. Actually I saw credence in both points of view, and leaned to 2 myself. Purely on his smarm factor lol

"Smarm"?


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: Colchester Kev on January 18, 2007, 02:08:06 AM
I thought everyone already accepted that smoking makes you look cool?

(http://members.aol.com/markjx/pix/zap_smoke_bnw.jpg)

And it makes your nose glow :D


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: RED-DOG on January 18, 2007, 02:30:08 AM
With that shnoz, he could smoke both ends of that fag at the same time.


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: TightEnd on January 18, 2007, 02:49:01 AM

But if he stops just one person smoking,and gives them another 10 years of life,how can you knock him for this??


I am not necessarily. Actually I saw credence in both points of view, and leaned to 2 myself. Purely on his smarm factor lol

"Smarm"?


you know, someone who is "smarmy"

I dunno, Terry Wogan, Dale Winton  etc


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: boldie on January 18, 2007, 08:56:41 AM
McKenna is a prat...definetly nr2.
OK he might have helped stop 1 person smoking but he's ripped 1000's of others off at the same time.


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on January 18, 2007, 09:14:35 AM
The fact that we are settling an argument here implies that there exists somewhere a person who doesn't think option 2 is the right one.

I find this puzzling!


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: Dingdell on January 18, 2007, 11:26:51 AM
Originally started work at Chiltern Radio in Dunstable - does that change anything?


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: SupaMonkey on January 18, 2007, 12:05:28 PM
I've been reading derren brown's book and he makes it sound as if being able to hypnotise someone isn't actaully that hard. The point being is that there are hundreds of hypnotists out there and the reason he has achieved celebrity status is because of his style of performing. I'm sure he is a very different character to the person who appears on tv.


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: KingPoker on January 18, 2007, 01:02:47 PM
He is definately number 1. He has helped hundreds (if not 1000's) to quit smoking, lose weight and cut down on drugs AND EVEN GAMBLING and also has helped people with low self esteem. So surely he teaches ppl to believe in themselves and to make them be confident. Surely if he wasnt to act confident (which may appear as arrogance) then surely he could not teach what he preaches!

Great guy (he's a man after my own heart as he loves cars!)
Who wouldnt want to be him. Earn MILLIONS while helping ppl!

 Ks KingPoker Ks

P.s- Surely shoody qualifications shouldnt even be an issue if his methods actually work!


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: roverthtaeh on January 18, 2007, 04:02:26 PM
Personally, I don't believe in what McKenna does, but there are plenty of folk who do.
The only way to 'settle the argument' is to poll a number of people who have had dealings with the man.

That was typed under hypnosis, I didn't even know I was doing it.


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: Swordpoker on January 18, 2007, 08:50:37 PM
Wow, I didn't realise so many people where so scathing about him.

Definitely No 1 for me. But then I'm biased. I've been trained by him and I now assist on a lot of his seminars.

He makes such a huge difference to so many peoples lives and he is very keen to teach his skills to as many people as possible so they too can make a difference.



Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: M3boy on January 18, 2007, 09:38:29 PM
I dont know about him, fake or not? Who will ever know except himself, therefore you can not settle this argument.

As for hypnotism, it is possible. I was a heavy sceptic about it, till one year on holiday we went to see a hypnotist perform.
What a load of blx, I was thinking to myself,,,,,, till he hypnotised me - quite a scary thought really that someone else can make you do whatever they want you to do.


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: brummieboy on January 18, 2007, 11:32:53 PM
With that shnoz, he could smoke both ends of that fag at the same time.

I honestly thought it was you in the picture Red-dog.

 ;D


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: JungleCat03 on January 18, 2007, 11:37:01 PM
I was skeptical about mckenna till i read one of his books.

It was really beneficial, with simple techniques that helped me out a lot in various situations. It's not like he's the only practitioner of NLP, there are lots out there.

As to how good he is in the flesh/ live shows, I can't say, never seen him but i found his book excellent.


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: thetank on January 18, 2007, 11:37:26 PM

Wow, I didn't realise so many people where so scathing about him.

Definitely No 1 for me. But then I'm biased. I've been trained by him and I now assist on a lot of his seminars.

He makes such a huge difference to so many peoples lives and he is very keen to teach his skills to as many people as possible so they too can make a difference.


Admit it, you plant subliminal thoughts in the seminars and stuff for folk to buy the books!

I've got a lift in Mark's car one day, two weeks later I have like seven copies of smoke yourself thin on the shelf. What's going on?  ;)


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: Claw75 on January 18, 2007, 11:40:13 PM
I was skeptical about mckenna till i read one of his books.

It was really beneficial, with simple techniques that helped me out a lot in various situations. It's not like he's the only practitioner of NLP, there are lots out there.

As to how good he is in the flesh/ live shows, I can't say, never seen him but i found his book excellent.

someone very close to me read one of his books as well and it really helped them.  Never read his stuff myself, but seeing the results first hand, I can't knock him.


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: thetank on January 18, 2007, 11:46:14 PM

 quite a scary thought really that someone else can make you do whatever they want you to do.


To be fair, it's not quite as bad as all that.

If you go under and someone says, jump off the cliff, your body won't let you. Your subconcious mind has a survival reflex, just as your concious one does. The stage hypnotist appearing as if they are in complete control is apparently all part of the illusion.

I don't know much about it, but I heard something like that once.


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: Bongo on January 18, 2007, 11:49:33 PM
It must be easy, I saw hypnodog at Reading last year!
http://www.hypnodog.co.uk/


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: Swordpoker on January 19, 2007, 12:07:27 AM
It must be easy, I saw hypnodog at Reading last year!
http://www.hypnodog.co.uk/

:D superb!


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: Swordpoker on January 19, 2007, 12:16:45 AM

Wow, I didn't realise so many people where so scathing about him.

Definitely No 1 for me. But then I'm biased. I've been trained by him and I now assist on a lot of his seminars.

He makes such a huge difference to so many peoples lives and he is very keen to teach his skills to as many people as possible so they too can make a difference.


Admit it, you plant subliminal thoughts in the seminars and stuff for folk to buy the books!

I've got a lift in Mark's car one day, two weeks later I have like seven copies of smoke yourself thin on the shelf. What's going on?  ;)

Actually, Paul McKenna can be a bit naughty for that - he did a good one in one of my seminars. There was a really cute girl called Rachel on the books and DVDs stall outside the room we were being trained in. Just before the break Paul said:

"If you haven't been out to see the products on sale by now, go and speak to Rachel. She's one of the wonderful by-products of this course"












Translation:

"If you haven't been out to see the products on sale BUY NOW, go and speak to Rachel. She's one of the wonderful BUY PRODUCTS OFF THIS COURSE"

:D


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: AndrewT on January 19, 2007, 10:40:16 AM
Admit it, you plant subliminal thoughts in the seminars and stuff for folk to buy the books!

I've got a lift in Mark's car one day, two weeks later I have like seven copies of smoke yourself thin on the shelf. What's going on?  ;)

Actually, Paul McKenna can be a bit naughty for that - he did a good one in one of my seminars. There was a really cute girl called Rachel on the books and DVDs stall outside the room we were being trained in. Just before the break Paul said:

"If you haven't been out to see the products on sale by now, go and speak to Rachel. She's one of the wonderful by-products of this course"

Translation:

"If you haven't been out to see the products on sale BUY NOW, go and speak to Rachel. She's one of the wonderful BUY PRODUCTS OFF THIS COURSE"

Derren Brown uses this kind of thing in his act (but not as much as he would have you believe).


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: Swordpoker on February 03, 2007, 12:45:35 AM
Hi Guys,

Here are some testimonials from the last Paul McKenna course I assisted on. If anyone feels like going on the next course, I'll be going too. I can probably get you a discount and I also get some commission.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCOUW1ZpCZ4

Dates for the next course are 15th to 22nd April.


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: RED-DOG on February 03, 2007, 12:50:44 AM
 ;bumwiggle;


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: Swordpoker on February 03, 2007, 12:53:12 AM
;bumwiggle;


:kiss:


Title: Re: Settle a row for me please
Post by: tantrum on February 03, 2007, 12:58:04 AM
 :)up he must be so great :)up to make so much money ;mrslime; and all those people suddenly use their hands  :)up while talking....

I would not trust this guy to look after my cat... he reminds me of Tony Blair....