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Title: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: AdamM on January 22, 2007, 01:20:43 PM
anyone down at Earls Court this week for the Amusement / Casino Trade show?

I'm down Wednesday and Thursday With Mazooma/QPS/Bellfruit.


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Yogi-Bear on January 22, 2007, 01:59:22 PM
A few from DtD will be there Tues and Wed. Might pop along and see you.

And a few others just on the Wednesday

Yogi


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: M3boy on January 22, 2007, 03:15:32 PM
May be there Tuesday


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Royal Flush on January 22, 2007, 03:23:23 PM
I went last year, eye opening stuff!


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: DesD on January 22, 2007, 04:30:08 PM
Tues, Weds & Thurs!


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: AdamM on January 22, 2007, 04:36:18 PM
Exibitor Des?


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Mango99 on January 22, 2007, 04:48:42 PM
A few of us from the gambling.co.uk network will be heading down - myself, my two business partners, and affiliate manager will there on Wednesday for the day. We don't have a stand - we're mainly going for the networking opportunities and to have a few meetings (it's always handy when everyone is in the same place at the same time).

I always like the Fire and Ice party held on the Wednesday night. Anyone else planning on going to that? Last year was a good craic :)

Des, I'll see you at the show :)

p.s. I'll mainly be in the ICEi part of the show, that's the part dealing with internet gambling, etc.


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: AdamM on January 22, 2007, 04:50:24 PM
A few of us from the gambling.co.uk network will be heading down - myself, my two business partners, and affiliate manager will there on Wednesday for the day. We don't have a stand - we're mainly going for the networking opportunities and to have a few meetings (it's always handy when everyone is in the same place at the same time).

I always like the Fire and Ice party held on the Wednesday night. Anyone else planning on going to that? Last year was a good craic :)

Des, I'll see you at the show :)

p.s. I'll mainly be in the ICEi part of the show, that's the part dealing with internet gambling, etc.

details? might do


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Mango99 on January 22, 2007, 04:53:15 PM
details? might do

It's held by Lyceum Media. It's a party for exhibitors and attendees of ICE/ICEi. Max capacity 1000. Last year the capacity was lower - held at a smaller venue, and it was impossible to move around. Still, it was good fun.

I don't have any more details yet. I usually pick 'em up on the day from the Lyceum stand.


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: AdamM on January 22, 2007, 04:55:09 PM
thanks. My company is obviously more ATEi so not sure what's planned but I might suggest that.


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: luckyblind on January 22, 2007, 05:08:21 PM
I will be there on Tuesday & Wednesday. Hope to get to both parts.


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Yogi-Bear on January 22, 2007, 05:12:02 PM
I forgot we r meant to all be popping to the Fire and Ice party as well on the WEdnesday.

Yogi


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: DesD on January 22, 2007, 05:29:38 PM
Exibitor Des?

Hi Adam,

No, I'm on the operator side and have meetings scheduled across three days.  I might very well get on the BF stand and if I do, I will say hello.

Might see you walking the halls Matt.  Maybe we can play Earls Court Roll?  ;)

Cheers,

Des.


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Royal Flush on January 22, 2007, 06:05:38 PM
Maybe we can play Earls Court Roll?  ;)

OK i am there! Never pass up a chance to play Roll with Matt, valooooooo


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Mango99 on January 22, 2007, 06:15:58 PM
Maybe we can play Earls Court Roll?  ;)

OK i am there! Never pass up a chance to play Roll with Matt, valooooooo
Would be cool to see you down there. I'll make sure I bring a roll, and some cards :) PM me your phone number, and I'll give you a call on Wednesday afternoon.


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Royal Flush on January 22, 2007, 07:00:34 PM
Maybe we can play Earls Court Roll?  ;)

OK i am there! Never pass up a chance to play Roll with Matt, valooooooo
Would be cool to see you down there. I'll make sure I bring a roll, and some cards :) PM me your phone number, and I'll give you a call on Wednesday afternoon.

Only messing i wont be there, festival on in brighton! Should drag yourself down here.


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: AdamM on January 22, 2007, 07:09:39 PM
Exibitor Des?
I might very well get on the BF stand and if I do, I will say hello.



I won't be on the Bell Fruit stand much. I know our machines inside out. it's the oppos I'll be checking out in detail.


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Mango99 on January 22, 2007, 07:27:37 PM
Only messing i wont be there, festival on in brighton! Should drag yourself down here.
Pah. I am far too easy to bluff!... Too much work on at the moment to play festivals unfortunately :( My next one is the next leg of the UKGPT (only 1 festie a month this year, though I might have another craic at the Irish Open)...


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Royal Flush on January 23, 2007, 03:09:55 AM
Only messing i wont be there, festival on in brighton! Should drag yourself down here.
Pah. I am far too easy to bluff!... Too much work on at the moment to play festivals unfortunately :( My next one is the next leg of the UKGPT (only 1 festie a month this year, though I might have another craic at the Irish Open)...

If you are staying at the village then we can play Village Poker! The one where the short stack is the BB.


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: tantrum on January 23, 2007, 03:21:45 AM
If I get up on time I might make my way on Wed, as long as i can get into the party:)


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: AceofWands on January 24, 2007, 01:45:57 PM
Get one of these for your home game.

 Ac


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: londonpokergirl on January 24, 2007, 02:07:31 PM
Get one of these for your home game.

 Ac

i played on them in newcastle , great invention but prefer to play with real chips and cards


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Mango99 on January 24, 2007, 03:24:28 PM
Get one of these for your home game.

 Ac
I played on one of these at the Ladbrokes casino in London. One problem was that when two players were all in (in a cash game) it automatically flipped their cards.

One nice touch was that when everyone folded to a bet you had the option of showing both cards or just one card. I wish more online poker rooms had this option.

Like londonpokergirl though, I prefer to play with read cards/chips.

Edit: speeling


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Mango99 on January 24, 2007, 03:44:14 PM
Maybe we can play Earls Court Roll?  ;)

OK i am there! Never pass up a chance to play Roll with Matt, valooooooo
Would be cool to see you down there. I'll make sure I bring a roll, and some cards :) PM me your phone number, and I'll give you a call on Wednesday afternoon.

Only messing i wont be there, festival on in brighton! Should drag yourself down here.

A bit off topic: I hear Pete "The Proffessor" Singleton chopped first place in one of the events. Did he chop this with you Flushie? If he did, how much was it?


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Royal Flush on January 24, 2007, 07:29:17 PM
Maybe we can play Earls Court Roll?  ;)

OK i am there! Never pass up a chance to play Roll with Matt, valooooooo
Would be cool to see you down there. I'll make sure I bring a roll, and some cards :) PM me your phone number, and I'll give you a call on Wednesday afternoon.

Only messing i wont be there, festival on in brighton! Should drag yourself down here.

A bit off topic: I hear Pete "The Proffessor" Singleton chopped first place in one of the events. Did he chop this with you Flushie? If he did, how much was it?
lol windup merchant, i know you saw him today!


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Mango99 on January 24, 2007, 07:53:12 PM
Maybe we can play Earls Court Roll?  ;)

OK i am there! Never pass up a chance to play Roll with Matt, valooooooo
Would be cool to see you down there. I'll make sure I bring a roll, and some cards :) PM me your phone number, and I'll give you a call on Wednesday afternoon.

Only messing i wont be there, festival on in brighton! Should drag yourself down here.

A bit off topic: I hear Pete "The Proffessor" Singleton chopped first place in one of the events. Did he chop this with you Flushie? If he did, how much was it?
lol windup merchant, i know you saw him today!

Lol, as if I'd try to wind you up ;)

I didn't see Pete today, although I was supposed to... Unfortunately in the pursuit of straighter teeth I had a brace fitted (last Wednesday) to straighten 'em up. Being a bit vain I went for an invisible one that goes behind the teeth... So, okay, you can't see it. But, jeeez it hurts. It's ripped my tongue to shreds. I can't talk, can't eat, and worse yet - can't drink any beer!!! :(

So, I didn't go down in the end. Shame, as was looking forward to the party tonight :(

Pete emailed me this morning to say that he chopped 1st place and that he'd met you too. He didn't say who he'd chopped with, or how much it was for...


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Royal Flush on January 24, 2007, 07:54:27 PM
He got 4500 i think, i went out just before the final, largely down to pete ATo busting my AA! I wasn't too bothered though, he won with class.


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Mango99 on January 24, 2007, 07:56:50 PM
He got 4500 i think, i went out just before the final, largely down to pete ATo busting my AA! I wasn't too bothered though, he won with class.
Thanks. That's a great result. Congrats in winning your event the other day too btw :)


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Royal Flush on January 24, 2007, 08:01:09 PM
He got 4500 i think, i went out just before the final, largely down to pete ATo busting my AA! I wasn't too bothered though, he won with class.
Thanks. That's a great result. Congrats in winning your event the other day too btw :)

I figure he owes me 90%......


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: AdamM on January 25, 2007, 06:31:10 PM
there were three companies demoing these things and I played on all off them.

horrible horrible invention.

physical information like how a person handles their chips and cards, how chips are staked, whether they cap their cards, if their voice or hands shake as they make a bet, etc, etc. all gone
Players frequently leaned over and looked at their neighbours cards and as there's no dealer it's left to the players to police collusion themelves.
I don't think the screens are any less intimitating than cards and chips. if anything the touch screen maybe harder for novice players because they're having to work it out for themselves rather than other players or the dealer assisting.
The table takes a rake from every pot without providing anything in the way of service. you are paying purely for the privalage of using the table, without the benifit of a dealer and nice cards / chips.
dispite the fact 10 people are sitting playing online poker against each other it gains none of the speed of online, infact I've never seen live poker play so slow.

Only positive thing I can think of to say is that the players name is on display so you get to know your opponents by name. that said, it takes a while to figure out which name corresponds to which player.

I could hear the reps claiming it was faster than normal live poker (not true) less intimidating (nope) and more fun (there was far less conversation than normal)

I'm sure these things won't catch on, especially at between £150,000 and £200,000 each. there were some magnificent poker tables on display that I'm sure we'd all much rather sit on.


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: AlrightJack on January 25, 2007, 06:53:52 PM
I've played several times on the Poker Pro machine in Ladbrokes Casino at Paddington and it is definitely much faster than live poker. They also do not charge a rake, but a very reasonable £3 an hour and it is totally obvious which name corresponds to which player. Each to their own, but many of your comments about them are simply not true.


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Colchester Kev on January 25, 2007, 08:17:56 PM
I managed to get to the exhibition with AlrightJack for a short time this afternoon, was quite impressed at all the stuff on display .... but unfortunately most of the scantily clad girlies had left by the time we got there :(


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: tikay on January 25, 2007, 10:39:49 PM
I managed to get to the exhibition with AlrightJack for a short time this afternoon, was quite impressed at all the stuff on display .... but unfortunately most of the scantily clad girlies had left by the time we got there :(

Oi! You were supposed to be at a Meeting........


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Colchester Kev on January 25, 2007, 10:47:27 PM
I was ... but all work and no play  etc etc  ;)


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: AdamM on January 26, 2007, 08:21:35 AM
I've played several times on the Poker Pro machine in Ladbrokes Casino at Paddington and it is definitely much faster than live poker. They also do not charge a rake, but a very reasonable £3 an hour and it is totally obvious which name corresponds to which player. Each to their own, but many of your comments about them are simply not true.

the tables can charge a rake per pot, and they were doing. Obviously the software is capable of doing both but I'm just reporting was was happening.

they were slower than a live cash game by a long way even the deal of the cards was slower than a good house dealer. perhaps thats a settings thing.

and it wasn't always as immediately obvious who's action it was as live because hands weren't moving chips.


Title: Re: ATEi / ICE Earls court
Post by: Royal Flush on January 26, 2007, 12:40:31 PM
I've played several times on the Poker Pro machine in Ladbrokes Casino at Paddington and it is definitely much faster than live poker. They also do not charge a rake, but a very reasonable £3 an hour and it is totally obvious which name corresponds to which player. Each to their own, but many of your comments about them are simply not true.

the tables can charge a rake per pot, and they were doing. Obviously the software is capable of doing both but I'm just reporting was was happening.

they were slower than a live cash game by a long way even the deal of the cards was slower than a good house dealer. perhaps thats a settings thing.

and it wasn't always as immediately obvious who's action it was as live because hands weren't moving chips.

Thats all just a case of everyone is new.

I have played the 1 in paddington with some of the guys from BSQ, i was a bit slow on it but they moved around like lightning, we played 5 handed and it was loads faster than playing with cards and chips.