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My mate told me about this the other day.  It is basically a group of high ranking Government officials, ex CIA and NSA agents  who want to prove the existence of UFOs, etc by discussing their personal experiences .  By looking at the list of contributors on the wikipedia page it seems impressive, but I am not convinced.  I don't believe in UFO, ghosts or any of this stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Disclosure_Project

The full Disclosure Project press conference is on you tube .       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCLOIcFTSlE



 

you will be surprised then

Sark,

Tank will confirm I am sure, the reason you dont have ufo's in Kilmarnock is because all scottissh Ufo's are based in Bonnybridge

1 - Claims an alien craft came down at McGuire Air Force Base, an alien came out and was shot by a military policeman. Its dead body was found at the end of the runway [1].
2 - Claims to have chased an alien ship over England when flying for the US Air Force.

Both of these claims make me chuckle. They are meant to fly an unimaginable distance, then, get shot when they anounce themselves to us at an airbase. If this happened, i am sure we would of been annhialated by now. They fly so far but can be 'chased' by a aeroplane.

LMAO.....

lol,  I am a non believer.  I have to see it with my own two eyes before I believe anything.  It just seems to crazy to believe, even though there are some well respected people on the you tube film who are talking about the existence of UFOs

Given that they have travelled an unimaginable distance you have to wonder: a) how long til they are missed, b) how long would the annihilation force take to get here?

How can you all be sceptical? the clues in the name of the project!!!

Hiya Bolt, long time no see!!

The trouble with UFO reports is that most of them are way out and we usually only get to hear about sightings from people who dont mind exposing themselves to ridicule. like the audiences of usa chat shows; oprah etc
there are plenty of sightings that are not so far fetched involving little green/gray men and flying saucers. the fact that military people come forward, make some of these reports more credible as we dont expect high ranking officials to live in fantasy land  >:? What a laugh

ive seen a ufo, but it doesnt mean it was from outer space although it would be great if it was. it was most likely a usa test plane. i think there needs to someting  behind all the sightings that happen all over the world. there are even paintings going back to the time of christ that have ufos painted in so this is not a new phenomena. ill see if i can find any online and post here

finally, if there are any aliens out there that want a human to study, ill volunteer because id love to go into space and meet jean luke piccard and captain janeway :) or even just look at the stars

heres a link to a page with paintings of ufos and aliens going back to 7000 years bc so not a new concept

http://www.crystalinks.com/ufohistory.html

Yeah, I heard about that. It's a minute or so down the road from me.

No real idea what they're on about though, sorry.

I went through a phase when I was a teenager of being really interested in this stuff and reading a few books.  One story that sticks in my mind was of an American chappie who was taken for a little ride in a flying saucer.  One of the aliens on board told him that they had been coming to earth for some time in the hope of sharing some of their technology, but that they had yet to find anyone intelligent enough to understand it :D

and did you believe this story? is it the only that got you hooked at that age?

No I didn't believe that particular one.  I read a few stories from people who seemed credible - whether they had really seen alien craft I don't know. 

we can live in hope Claw :)

I have a friend who tries to convince me about the existence of UFOs all the time.  I categorise them into the same thing as Mars Bar Suppers.  People have said deep fried Mars Bars are tasty, but until I actually taste one myself, then they will always be a silly idea in my eyes  :D

the USA do not test there highly secret planes over densely popluated areas such as the UK

i could go into more details on UFO but haveing signed the offical secrets act i would have to shoot myself after i told you and i aint won the wsop yet

I've signed it too so you can tell me :D

This reminds me of a debate that i have had many times with friends, UFO's are one thing, yes UFO's exist, there are lots of Unidentified Flying objects to peple that donk know what they are looking at, its that simple.

Now on the other hand who can honestly say that ther is no life on other planets and we are alone in the universe?

Given the planetary population of the known universe its almost impossible that we are alone here, the odds are that there are many other worlds that are inhabited we just dont know where they are. Take for example the people of the UK, before anyone crossed the water to visit us, did we believe there was life beyond our shores?  probably not only because pepole at the time were too narrow minded to accept that possibility.  I believe whe have that same narrow mindeedness enmass across our very own very small planet.

Think about it.

Please notice i made no mention of visiting aliens or little green men, thats another argument all together.

I don't think anyone could argue with any of that

If they were going to, they would probably start here....

the usa apparently do test planes over Scotland. the most remote parts, out to the north sea, and not densely populated. it didn't happen in Glasgow iron :) or any densely populated areas such as your own remote part of town. theres evidence of sonic booms affecting Scandinavia from these test flights. very interesting to research this kind of thing and the deeper you dig the more incredible it becomes :)

i never said they didnt test planes over scotland

i said they never test HIGHLY SECRET planes over populated areas

and how would you know if they were highly secret?  ;whistle;

Quality answer .... LOL LOL .   I bet iron is kicking himself for leaving that door open :D

because even highly secret bases need top quailty protection

sorry i cant give away any more details or i will have to blow up the blonde server to hide the evidance

Yes, but what about the Fermi Paradox?

Eh that's essentially the discussion underway surely? Scale vs scope and all that...

Ohh please, the guy makes one off the cuff remark and he has a paradox all of a sudden ( 1950 ), sure,  "where are they?" but this very subjecy could be debated on another planet elsewhere by similar beings. 

One small note about the fermi Paradox, his reasoning was based on OUR communication methods, and our accomplishments as a race to date, hence  a simple solution to why have we not found anyone, who says that if a race if beings on another planet uses a similar communication system to us, and if they dont how can they find any signal we put out there?

soo many holes in that paradox, and it really has to be said that hiding behind that mans flippant remark does nothing but add fuel the shallow empty brains of the narrowminded.

Even a different race on another planet in our Universe would have to operate under the same laws of physics. If they're not using the electromagnetic spectrum as a means of communication, what are they using? And any other advanced society would produce a radio signature from their electronics / machinery, even if they're using another form of communication.

what about macnaharish? a supposedly disused airbase with the longest runway in europe and underground tunnels that go on for miles. it wasnt disused when i was down that way last year. in fact it was swarming with military :)

The problem with the fermi paradox is it assumes too much about the subject its trying to disprove, eg level of technological advancement, communication methods and that another species would be looking for life on a planet other than their own like we do.

I will be the first to admit that i am not completely familar with all of the facets of the theory, i believe in 18parts, some more contradictory to others, and I found it so full of assumption that i gave up in dispair.

its actuallu only the 3rd longest runway in europe the other 2 are so top secret that even sat images of them are edited before they reach the ground

lmao