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Title: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Dingdell on March 06, 2007, 08:18:49 PM
Just a quick update on poker coaching.
Had one session before Christmas but for various reasons was unable to have another until last week. I have learnt how to get in to 'the zone' (or the place right for me) quicker and better and how to block distractions so I can concentrate better. I am a nosy cow and am always watching other things going on in the poker room etc etc.

I have also learnt some patience, after a couple of good results last year I started to play too aggressive and loose and wasn't winning anything. In Vegas in January I don't think I won a hand and I lost a lot of hands and money - not good.

Anyway first game after second session was at Luton last week in £75 F/o - got down to last 2 tables which on recent results is fantastic. I was able to focus/read my opponents and really felt much more in control at the table, most importantly I was able to to take chips off Mr Martin and tilt him so it was a great comp  ;D

On Sunday I played at Southend and again finished on last 2 tables, I played well with no cards to speak of and although no cash i was pleased with the improvement.

Tonight I played on line and won a sattelite to the Mansion $100k. Still in after 18 minutes..........

Up sides of the process - more relaxed at the table, more focused, inwardly calm.
Down sides - not sure yet - £150 lighter but we'll see if that pays off in the short/med/long run. Not expecting miracles - it's just nice to have regained a bit of sanity and calmness to my brain.

Watch this space  ;popcorn;


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Indestructable on March 06, 2007, 08:32:42 PM
Good stuff, glad it is working.


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Dingdell on March 06, 2007, 09:45:46 PM
Out position 222. Next!


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Indestructable on March 06, 2007, 10:14:57 PM
 Can you get a refund? rotflmfao


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Dingdell on March 06, 2007, 10:33:40 PM
Oi - there were a lot of players - over 50% went out before me -  ;nanana;


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: TightEnd on March 06, 2007, 10:42:11 PM

I have also learnt some patience, after a couple of good results last year I started to play too aggressive and loose and wasn't winning anything. In Vegas in January I don't think I won a hand and I lost a lot of hands and money - not good.

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On the one occasion we shared a table for longer than a few hands this year I found it quite remarkable how distracted and impatient you were.

Mind you on the other occasion I had a face like a smacked haddock, so we can call it a draw then.

Good luck with the re-focussing!


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Dingdell on March 06, 2007, 10:46:42 PM

I have also learnt some patience, after a couple of good results last year I started to play too aggressive and loose and wasn't winning anything. In Vegas in January I don't think I won a hand and I lost a lot of hands and money - not good.

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On the one occasion we shared a table for longer than a few hands this year I found it quite remarkable how distracted and impatient you were.

Mind you on the other occasion I had a face like a smacked haddock, so we can call it a draw then.

Good luck with the re-focussing!

Very focused - no more slots for me - only playing poker or going home. How focused is that?! Ship it to me  ;D
PS - smacked haddock - more of an arse......


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Graham C on March 06, 2007, 11:01:48 PM
Interested to see how you get on with this. 

I won a Poker Player comp a month or so ago and won a poker hypno cd that concentrates on getting to the final table.  Sadly, I haven't listened to it yet, but I'll try and listen to it soon


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Dingdell on March 06, 2007, 11:05:57 PM
Interested to see how you get on with this. 

I won a Poker Player comp a month or so ago and won a poker hypno cd that concentrates on getting to the final table.  Sadly, I haven't listened to it yet, but I'll try and listen to it soon

Let me know what you think!



Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Graham C on March 06, 2007, 11:09:52 PM
I'll listen tomorow, I guess before you go to bed isn't such a good idea! 


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Smart Money on March 06, 2007, 11:16:58 PM
Look into my eyes. Look into my eyes. The eyes. The eyes. Not around the eyes. Don't look around my eyes. Look into my eyes... You're under.

Every time you are dealt aces playing live, you will take all your clothes off and dance on the table.

3-2-1, you're back in the room.



Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Dingdell on March 06, 2007, 11:45:42 PM
I must admit i did make him promise he wouldn't make me cluck like a chicken everytime I had a good hand.

If hypnotism really worked like that my boyfriend would have invested a long time ago - must be cheaper than rohypnol!


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: pokerdave69 on March 06, 2007, 11:50:09 PM
Dingdell. Can you give us some info on this coach / hypnotist ? like a website or contact details. Cheers . Dave


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: mex on March 06, 2007, 11:51:03 PM
i start my qualifications in Hypnotherpy in june and will take me 18 months with 110 hrs of clinical practice min a year.

I find the hypnotising people to concentrate for poker / get in the zone an interesting subject, i think that the results would be slightly poor unless the therypist understood what and how you need to focus and what on for poker.

btw the kenny craig stuff could work, go on to utube and look up rapid inductions, once you know how they work they can give even a begineer like me some amazing results.


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: mex on March 06, 2007, 11:56:22 PM
for focus you would only raelly need one session, is this person a hypnotherypist, or a neuro lingustic programer/ life coach.

I would like to try some stuff over msn with some willing victims............er subjects.


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Dingdell on March 06, 2007, 11:58:39 PM
The hypnotist is Christian Baker - his web site is www.northamptonhypnotherapy.co.uk
I have to admit an interest only because he rents space from me at my clinic but as I don't make any money from any clients he gets I have some impartiality!

he spent a lot of time finding out what I needed, interestingly it isn't poker related as such, no one can hypnotise you to play poker better but they can make you improve behaviours that will help your game (if that makes sense).


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Graham C on March 07, 2007, 12:00:23 AM
for focus you would only raelly need one session, is this person a hypnotherypist, or a neuro lingustic programer/ life coach.

I would like to try some stuff over msn with some willing victims............er subjects.

I'm up for some of that, but not just now.  If you're still offering another day, I'd be interested to give it a go :)


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Dingdell on March 07, 2007, 12:01:41 AM
for focus you would only raelly need one session, is this person a hypnotherypist, or a neuro lingustic programer/ life coach.

I would like to try some stuff over msn with some willing victims............er subjects.

I think there's a lot more to it than that - it's not just one element. I've also worked on memory (for hands,tells etc) as well as how to store info in my brain so I find it easy to retrieve. Also worked a lot on visualisation and using various triggers to promote certain emotions as well as how to gather informationin a way thats easy for me.


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Graham C on March 07, 2007, 12:03:16 AM
Does something like this improve your online game do you think?  I can see how it would help live but not so sure about online.  I guess if it focuses the mind then it could help.


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: mex on March 07, 2007, 12:05:44 AM
so dingell he spent alot of time getting you to actually look and question why you don't focus etc and got you to look at ways that you feel could help yo7u, this is the coaching side ,(my wife is a specialist in this).

Although you cant hypnotise someone to play poker better as such, you can if the better poker is there but not being played if you follow me??

Did he actually use an induction, intrested to find out, did he talk you down, get you to walk a journey, or did he play a game over and rewind it view it from outside the game ?


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: mex on March 07, 2007, 12:11:12 AM
Interesting dingell, its sounds like life coaching methods, they are very effective, stick with it, do you find yourself applying this to more than poker?



Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Dingdell on March 07, 2007, 12:14:41 AM
so dingell he spent alot of time getting you to actually look and question why you don't focus etc and got you to look at ways that you feel could help yo7u, this is the coaching side ,(my wife is a specialist in this).

Although you cant hypnotise someone to play poker better as such, you can if the better poker is there but not being played if you follow me??

Did he actually use an induction, intrested to find out, did he talk you down, get you to walk a journey, or did he play a game over and rewind it view it from outside the game ?

I wish I could tell you but I was so relaxed that a lot of the time I wasn't focussing on what he was saying and also as I'm no expert it's difficult for me to comment on the methods he used. However as I'm playing I realise I am doing things without realising, a certain type of breathing, posture etc that was not automatic or natural for me. I've had a few lightbulb moments when it's come back to me even though I don't remember it going in in the first place.

Definitely better for live games for me but everyone is different. Still proof is in the pudding......always difficult to jusge though!

I have used some of the breathing during a very stressful experience I am going through at the moment and I'm still holding my head high so it must be working  ;carlocitrone;



Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: mex on March 07, 2007, 12:21:02 AM
I'm glad its working, i got interested in it after my fear of flying was sorted in 1 hr, i now help other people with it.

I think hypnosis/coaching/nlp is such an amazing tool.

Give me 18 months and you can all have your 1st session free


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Dingdell on March 07, 2007, 01:06:13 AM
I'm glad its working, i got interested in it after my fear of flying was sorted in 1 hr, i now help other people with it.

I think hypnosis/coaching/nlp is such an amazing tool.

Give me 18 months and you can all have your 1st session free

Yes - Christian helped the guy from Blue Peter stop tthrowing up everytime he flew - it was onTV in January I think. That was just one session too, the mind is very powerful   ;m3boy;


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: TightPaulFolds on March 07, 2007, 01:07:03 AM
i start my qualifications in Hypnotherpy in june and will take me 18 months with 110 hrs of clinical practice min a year.

I find the hypnotising people to concentrate for poker / get in the zone an interesting subject, i think that the results would be slightly poor unless the therypist understood what and how you need to focus and what on for poker.

yeah, great point, difficult to find people who know a lot about poker and a lot about hypno/psych techniques.
I've noticed some poker players selling their services on Ebay. Anything that builds the bankroll, I suppose. Bet most of them are rubbish.


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: londonpokergirl on March 08, 2007, 06:06:38 PM
i start my qualifications in Hypnotherpy in june and will take me 18 months with 110 hrs of clinical practice min a year.

I find the hypnotising people to concentrate for poker / get in the zone an interesting subject, i think that the results would be slightly poor unless the therypist understood what and how you need to focus and what on for poker.

yeah, great point, difficult to find people who know a lot about poker and a lot about hypno/psych techniques.
I've noticed some poker players selling their services on Ebay. Anything that builds the bankroll, I suppose. Bet most of them are rubbish.

I know someone who got a poker hypnosis CD from here:
http://www.hypnoshop.com/poker.htm and they said it was very good



Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: AndrewT on March 08, 2007, 06:15:23 PM
I know someone who got a poker hypnosis CD from here:
http://www.hypnoshop.com/poker.htm and they said it was very good

Customers who bought this item also bought: Stop Gambling Self Hypnosis CD

 :)


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Snatiramas on March 08, 2007, 06:42:00 PM
personally I have always played better in comfortable shoes.........though I did use a hypno therapist to give up smoking with excellent results. I also still use a cd for relaxation purposes when I am slightly less horizontal than I want to be. Thirdly I can auto deep relax/self hypnotise which I find very useful in long tourneys as a form of letting go and power napping............anything that makes you feel good about your game is worth the investment as  the fine line between winning and losing tends to be in the head


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: Swordpoker on March 08, 2007, 11:23:40 PM
Well done Dingbell, I'm glad this has been so successful for you.

I agree with mex. One session is probably all that was required - job done.


Title: Re: Poker coaching/hypnotism
Post by: pokerdave69 on March 11, 2007, 03:38:09 PM
Has anyone got the perfect poker self hypnosis cd by barrie st john ?  Whats it like ? and please can you do me a copy ? Cheers Dave