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Why the hell would I want a Yorkshire terrier?

Well despite being saddled with a pretty boy image, diminutive stature, and the stigma of generations spent sitting beribboned and coiffured on the lap of some doting old spinster, the Yorkshire terrier still retains all of the characteristics of the place and the people that spawned him.

In the early days of the industrial revolution, life in Yorkshire was incredibly hard for the common man. Small communities eked out a meagre living, the lives of the people at once sustained and blighted by the shadow of the coalmine, textile mill and factory. Hard work and poverty not withstanding, a roof and a wage were better than exposure and starvation, and job seekers came from all over the country. When they came, they brought their dogs with them.

The Scots brought a breed known as the Clydesdale, or Paisley terrier, these were big, tough, hard bitten working dogs that were used for hunting all types of small animals. Yorkshire men were impressed by the courage and tenacity of these terriers, but reluctant to feed and house such large creatures, especially when their primary function would be to kill rats and rabbits and alert the owner to the presence of intruders. These tasks could be accomplished by a much smaller, and therefore more economical animal, and so the process, almost the natural selection, that formed the Yorkshire terrier, began.

Selective breeding is a surprisingly simple process if you are single minded and ruthless. The Clydesdale/Paisley terriers were crossed with anything that had the characteristics required. The Black and Tan English Toy, the Skye, the Border, the Maltese, and anything else that seemed to fit the bill. Those offspring that exhibited the required traits were retained and bred from; those that did not were dispatched without ceremony or remorse.

The result is a terrier that gives much and asks little, he is high output, low maintenance. He is happy to walk 30 miles a day, or to run around in your flat. His coat doesn’t shed, so apart from a do it yourself haircut once in a while, he needs very little in the way of grooming. He is highly intelligent, eager to please, and easy to train, (provided you are at least as clever as he is).  He has all the best attributes of the Yorkshire people. Tough, determined, courageous and high spirited, but even-tempered and friendly, with a great sense of humour and a wickedly mischievous streak.

The Yorkie is a very big dog in a very small body. Loyal above and beyond, when called upon to protect his family, he is totally without fear, and would lay down his life in a heartbeat.

One other benefit of owning a Yorkie, especially one with a bad haircut, is the fact that it’s impossible to walk down the street without several women stopping you to chat about how gorgeous he is.

Brilliant Tom!, thank you, it's been ages since you gave us one of your in-depth stories.

Tom has a hankering for a dog, & you can guess what model he desires.

Now, a question Tom. Last week we disussed ther puppies you'd gone to visit (a would-be brithday pressie), & you mentioned the "shy-biter", the mother bitch that "nipped you" while your back was turned. That, apparently, is a bad trait in Yorkshire Terriers, or indeed the canine world as a whole.

I said "but it shows intelligence", but you insisted - & I bow to your all-seeing dog knowledge - it was quite the opposite.

This still troubles me. I'm sure "shy-biters" are a genetic trait to avoid, & a no-no - but it still seems to me that in the example you described, it suggested intelligence. You played with the pups, the mother watched, & when your back was turned, scurried across, gave you a nip, then scuttled away. I can think of many undesirable things in that, but it still seemed to me to be "bright dog". In most cases - though not you - the human would have hit or kicked the mother-bitch, so it did the wise thing, hit & run. No?

Now, moving swiftly on, I'm thinking of doing Luton tonight - are you? The value - Tighty - is usually there, & the super-value - Kev - may be open to persuasion.

I will be sitting on my stool, coo-ing.


Tom is your Yorkie black and white?

No Luton for me tonight ... full of cold and snot.


whats the game ?? ;)

Yorkie puppies are black and tan for their first six months or so then they turn grey.

Where else would a stool pigeon be?

Tom does not have a yorkie - yet.......! Give him time, & he will, nowt's more certain.

£50 Single rebuy, same as last week. Don't be late.

Look at the natural world, virtualy all animals give fair warning before attacking, and there is a very good reason for this.

If they give fair warning, the chances are that the intended victim will take heed, and there will be no need for violence.

By biting me AFTER I had handled her pups, this bitch not only failed to protect her offspring, but put herself in danger needlessly into the bargain.

The intelegent thing to do would have been to accept the reasurances of her owner and allow me to handle the pups, or, if her protective instinct was too strong, warn me of her intentions BEFORE I do the damage. She didn't bark, she didn't growl. Imagine her guarding your home and silently nipping the burglars heel then running away as he makes off with the family silver.

A shy, timid dog is never, ever trustworthy.

I looked at another litter on Monday, but they, unfortunately, had not been socialised or allowed to be clean. After a certain age,  puppies that have not been well socialised tend to lack confedence, those that are allowed to soil their living area are very difficult to house-train.


I may seem picky, but owning a dog is a long term commitment, I want to at least try to avoid the most common pitfalls.

I bought a puppy last night, she is 7 weeks old. More info and piccys to follow.

Luton? I'll let you know.

£50 with one rebuy or add-on...same as last week, the deep-stack

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All the ones i know spend all day yapping and can't keep quiet for more than 30 seconds!!!























Not that fond of the dogs either!!  ;whistle;

Only dog i ever loved was  Randy Brandy , he was a dirty little devil but we loved him  :D
Oh yeah , he was a yorkie  :)

Love the description Tom. Does that make the Scots less tight than the Yorkshiremen? ;D

Re Terriers, met an old schoolmate a couple of weekends ago, he's got 2 fell terrier/border terrier crosses. Lovely dogs & I think if he breeds from them my Dad will want one. They were great natured, and he'd also trained them to lamping rabbits.

I like Yorkies, as long as they're a) not bred too small, b) not got that hair sweeping the ground making them look like a soft floorbrush. A decent sized yorkie with a properly trimmed coat is a fine wee dog.

Slightly off topic, I saw an advert for a victorian bulldog the other day, googled them & someones started breeding bulldogs back to what they were like before the Kennel Club *spits* allowed them to be bred so disfigured that they can't breathe, run, or even give birth properly. The Victorian bulldogs look like the bulldog in the Tom & Jerry films, not the malformed gargoyle shown at crufts. Well worth a wee google, even if just to see that some people think about the health of the dog, not just their conformation to a standard.

Don't get me started Rod! Dogs bred for show/designed by committee and altered at the whim of fashion regardless of the suffering inflicted makes my blood boil.

Example, Working Labrador= slim, fast, athletic intelligent, almost a waterproof greyhound.

Show Labrador= fat, slow, Prone to hip displacia, dim, almost useless

Ive got 2 border collie and after them i will have border collies and then... well you can see a pattern!
Border Collies are friendly but are also great guard dogs, they are the most intelligent breed of dog (you can train them to do anything!), I was watching dog borstal on BBC 3 one night and one of the instructors on there taught a collie how to heel in around a minute, and said "you couldnt do that with any other breed of dog!".
They are fantastic company, so loyal and on times when my mum has been upset over something trivial (like my brother bumping the car!) the collie which is in the house goes up to her and puts her head on her lap to comfort her and really cheers her up! Its like they really pick up on the emotions of humans and we have one collie kept outside and when you got to take it for a walk, it is so thankful and excited to go that it is impossible not to be happy around them.
And they can be trained much better to attack than terriers, as when a terrier attacks it will not stop but a collie will. When my mate used to come around, she would bark at him and when i said 'kill' she would go for him but would be called off in a second. I dare not do it now as she is going deaf and might not hear the stop command lol.
And trust me, girls love sheep dogs!!!!
i remember my first full on snog with a girl at about 10 when taking my dog for a walk down by the river, which was obviously great fun, but i have always remeber the taste of onions in her mouth!!!!

Or the recommendation to dalmation breeders that the destroy any with a white mark on their nose - as they're no good for show. We'd one like that & she was the nicest dog we ever had - a demon for catching rabbits, crows, pheasants & even a seagull though.

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Kennel Club standard

The English Bull Terrier & the Boxer are another couple of dogs abused for fashion :(

Here she is. We haven't named her yet, any ideas

Ken?

She's cute,

See? Told you.

Oh Red, she is adorable!

Call it Deefer ..... D for Dog .......DEEFER Dog .. see ? Or Deefer Defacate all over the carpet :D

And so on....

How about Binny ?

Yorkie pups are so cute, we had a dog called Maxie many years ago.

call it 75/150  .... after your fav level in a comp ;)

How about Flushy?


"Flushy! HEEL!!"


It would be good therapy for you.

  ;tightend; ;tightend; rotflmfao


 ;scarymoment;

We refuse to bite.

You, or the pup?

Both.

I find myself wishing i was Korean, i bet that dog would taste lovely with roast taters and all the trimmings ... like fresh lamb cooked so the meat just falls off the bone .... MMmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

we called our little kitten DOG which got the odd strange look

I suggest CAT

Ahh, now I understand Tom - you think at a level above me on these things.

The pup is gorgeous - I hope you give it a Romany name.

Abramovich?

 ;tightend; ;tightend; ;tightend; ;applause;

Why do you teach your dog to attack humans?

my son said millie,rosie,lilly,pixie,


tinkerbelle,is a good romany name,
or killer,.,.,,.


sorry if there was any offence taken with the word what i put up there was none meant.,.,.,

 ::)

Dont be so stupid i never trained my dog to attack, she would just bark really loud and go forward towards the person, she has never bitten anyone. She is a collie so its not in their instict to attack, just intimidate!

My mums yorkshire terrrier is 12 yet still full of life and a load of fun, still crazy running for its toys and so so loyal....who needs a big dog?

And hes Yorkshire born and bred.....

Sylvester Stallone obviously did .... he married one. ;)

I apologize profusely for my stupidity.
But....
You said
"And they can be trained much better to attack than terriers"
and now you are saying
"She is a collie so its not in their instict to attack, just intimidate!"
So which is it?

trained meant discipline in my eyes. You cant ever call off a terrier (eg, pitbull) when it attacks, as stories where they have been smacking a pitbull with a hammer and it still wouldnt release its grip on a young girl shows.

A collie can be controlled (as its sheep herding skills shows).
There is not much scarier than a collie coming at you but you never get the sense its going to rip your head off!

I don't agree that terriers cannot be called off and I don't agree that there is nothing scarier than  a collie but I'll bow to your obviously superior knowledge.
What I was meaning was that if you encourage a dog to have a go at humans, the dog thinks it's acceptable to do so.
It might not rip your head off but if it's a child it can cause horrific injuries whether it is a pitbull or a pekingnese.
Unless of course you are one of the owners of dogs that " loves children, wouldn't hurt a fly, it's never done that before"
after it's chewed some poor kids face off.

I am sorry if i offended you but until you can learn not be as patronising as you are then i will not continue this debate. It seems you are the one with the superior knowledge and it is i who shall bow to you my good sir.

OMG Red that is the most adorable thing I have ever seen.  I want one...

Ps I have a retarded collie.  He is untrainable...  :(

used to have one ov these red ,it used to mount peoples leggs very embarasing when its the insurance man.

Great way to avoid this months premium though vinni.

Tom, that dog looks adoreable, people keep telling me to get one ,now i'm on my own.......if I do I'll seek your advice first.

Do seek Tom's advice Brendan, he knows Dogs & animals inside out.

please please just call it kev... or col ... or chester

He wants to love it and protect it, not kick it around the car park !!

How about Tara?

Well here's my little girl having a kip with her arch enemy "Buzzy" the stuffed bee. These two fight to the death several times a day, the bee wins about 70% of the time.

No wonder she's knackered, it's been a busy week for someone who's just over 6in tall. So far she has learned..

To keep out of the way of people with big feet.

To tilt her head sideways to get anything she wants from Mrs Red. ( I tried it too, doesn't work for me)

To have a wee when she is taken to the place where she had a wee the last time.

She can't intimidate a box of tissues by barking at it.

She can't scratch a collar off.

It hurts if she lies down in nettles or stick her nose into the fire.

If she is left alone for an hour, she has not been abandoned forever.

Riding in the car is nice.

I'm soooo jealous Tom!

It really is too small! I would be so afraid of treading on it!

Rofl

Any chance of a video of it ?

Kizzy is 3 months old today.

She is learning so fast. She has learned not to take food unless it's given to her, and she's learned that it's OK if I leave her alone for a few hours, she knows now, I am coming back.

She has had her vaccinations and we have begun the socialisation process proper. She has already accompanied me to Luton, and yesterday she went to the tip with me while I emptied my bins. A whole bunch of big hairy (and usually grumpy) council workers fussed over her, and argued about who's turn it was to pet her.

Today we spent an hour sitting on a bench in the middle of town watching the world go by. It was great for her to see all the traffic and people, to hear the noise and smell the smells, at this age she takes it all in her stride, just more strange new stuff in a word full of strange new stuff.

At home she watches me constantly, she is totally fascinated by everything I do. If I'm chopping wood for the fire, watering the plants, playing poker, whatever, she seems enthralled.

Thats the thing with dogs, to his dog, every man is a king. She sleeps on my foot, if I change chairs, she moves with me. She brings her toys and offers them to me. Her greatest joy is for me to tell her she's a good girl. (Can you tell I'm smitten)


Here she is watching me clean my boots.

What a wonderful Post Tom. I repat, I am insanely jealous. My turn will come.

...but it was Walsall Kizzy went to, not Luton........

So it was! Damn, I'm going senile.

I'll never forget. The wind was blowing, & I thought she'd get blown away!

She's doubled in weight since I got her, she's up to 3lb now.

3lb? One and a half bags of sugar? (My standard comparance reference).