Of all the dogs in all the towns in all the world......

[smithy69]

we called our little kitten DOG which got the odd strange look

I suggest CAT

[tikay]

Look at the natural world, virtualy all animals give fair warning before attacking, and there is a very good reason for this.

If they give fair warning, the chances are that the intended victim will take heed, and there will be no need for violence.

By biting me AFTER I had handled her pups, this bitch not only failed to protect her offspring, but put herself in danger needlessly into the bargain.

The intelegent thing to do would have been to accept the reasurances of her owner and allow me to handle the pups, or, if her protective instinct was too strong, warn me of her intentions BEFORE I do the damage. She didn't bark, she didn't growl. Imagine her guarding your home and silently nipping the burglars heel then running away as he makes off with the family silver.

A shy, timid dog is never, ever trustworthy.

I looked at another litter on Monday, but they, unfortunately, had not been socialised or allowed to be clean. After a certain age,  puppies that have not been well socialised tend to lack confedence, those that are allowed to soil their living area are very difficult to house-train.


I may seem picky, but owning a dog is a long term commitment, I want to at least try to avoid the most common pitfalls.

I bought a puppy last night, she is 7 weeks old. More info and piccys to follow.

Luton? I'll let you know.

Ahh, now I understand Tom - you think at a level above me on these things.

The pup is gorgeous - I hope you give it a Romany name.

[AndrewT]

The pup is gorgeous - I hope you give it a Romany name.

Abramovich?

[TightEnd]

The pup is gorgeous - I hope you give it a Romany name.

Abramovich?

 

[wader leg]

And they can be trained much better to attack than terriers, as when a terrier attacks it will not stop but a collie will. When my mate used to come around, she would bark at him and when i said 'kill' she would go for him but would be called off in a second. I dare not do it now as she is going deaf and might not hear the stop command lol.

Why do you teach your dog to attack humans?

[sofa----king]

my son said millie,rosie,lilly,pixie,


tinkerbelle,is a good romany name,
or killer,.,.,,.


sorry if there was any offence taken with the word what i put up there was none meant.,.,.,

[bolt pp]

my son said millie,rosie,lilly,pixie,


tinkerbelle,is a good romany name, i thought pikey ?
or killer,.,.,,.

 

[KingPoker]

And they can be trained much better to attack than terriers, as when a terrier attacks it will not stop but a collie will. When my mate used to come around, she would bark at him and when i said 'kill' she would go for him but would be called off in a second. I dare not do it now as she is going deaf and might not hear the stop command lol.

Why do you teach your dog to attack humans?

Dont be so stupid i never trained my dog to attack, she would just bark really loud and go forward towards the person, she has never bitten anyone. She is a collie so its not in their instict to attack, just intimidate!

[sledge13]

My mums yorkshire terrrier is 12 yet still full of life and a load of fun, still crazy running for its toys and so so loyal....who needs a big dog?

And hes Yorkshire born and bred.....

[Colchester Kev]

who needs a big dog?

Sylvester Stallone obviously did .... he married one.

[wader leg]

I apologize profusely for my stupidity.
But....
You said
"And they can be trained much better to attack than terriers"
and now you are saying
"She is a collie so its not in their instict to attack, just intimidate!"
So which is it?

[KingPoker]

trained meant discipline in my eyes. You cant ever call off a terrier (eg, pitbull) when it attacks, as stories where they have been smacking a pitbull with a hammer and it still wouldnt release its grip on a young girl shows.

A collie can be controlled (as its sheep herding skills shows).
There is not much scarier than a collie coming at you but you never get the sense its going to rip your head off!

[wader leg]

trained meant discipline in my eyes. You cant ever call off a terrier (eg, pitbull) when it attacks, as stories where they have been smacking a pitbull with a hammer and it still wouldnt release its grip on a young girl shows.

A collie can be controlled (as its sheep herding skills shows).
There is not much scarier than a collie coming at you but you never get the sense its going to rip your head off!

I don't agree that terriers cannot be called off and I don't agree that there is nothing scarier than  a collie but I'll bow to your obviously superior knowledge.
What I was meaning was that if you encourage a dog to have a go at humans, the dog thinks it's acceptable to do so.
It might not rip your head off but if it's a child it can cause horrific injuries whether it is a pitbull or a pekingnese.
Unless of course you are one of the owners of dogs that " loves children, wouldn't hurt a fly, it's never done that before"
after it's chewed some poor kids face off.

[KingPoker]

I am sorry if i offended you but until you can learn not be as patronising as you are then i will not continue this debate. It seems you are the one with the superior knowledge and it is i who shall bow to you my good sir.

[zelda]

OMG Red that is the most adorable thing I have ever seen.  I want one...