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if you had to pick one of these guys who would it be?
one vote each.,.,,just on my mind.,.,i think there are a lot more top players out there but if you had to pick one of these.,imagine they are going to play a massive game for you.,.,who would you pick????

Cash or Comp?

On recent form, assuming Tournaments only, it'd have to be......

Praz Bansi

Roland de Wolfe

John Gale

your allowed 1 pick yaaaaa nannaa.,.,.if you had to pick someone tomorrow to play in a big comp.,.,regardless cash or tourney.,.,in my opinion action jack would be a diffrent league.,.,in tourney,..,cash hes chit.,.,lol sorry paul.,.,but you are m8.,.,

John Gale/Roland De Wolfe

Ram if he can be bothered

Right now?Today? Praz Bansi, by a mile.

The last 10 years (& maybe the next)?, Dave Colclough.

The next 10 years, Praz, Roland, Monty Burns, Mr Cool, Lord Wernick, Karl Marrenholz, J P Kelly.

john gale     by a country mile.....

John Gale gets my vote too.

Not by a country mile, there are some seriously talented runners up there.

Yes, add John Gale to my "next 10 years" list.

But for now, the boy Banzi is the Man.

Pab.

Why? So we can get hammered when he goes out early.

Did'nt we have a similar poll a while ago and Ram smacked it?

yeah but ram didn't play too good the other night on will hill and praz won a GUKPT so he's obv better than him.

Interesting picks Tikay...

Haven't seen all these guys play... If I had 3 on current form it would be de Wolfe, Bansi and Gale - agree what you say about Karl - he is a quality player - watch out for Nick Persaud too if you want a Laggy to add to the list. I can see him taking down a big tourney like the WSOP as he is absolutely fearless...

Greg

Yup, Praz won the GUKPT. And The Broadway. And a WSOP Bracelet first time of asking. And three-way chopped the $1,000 Daily Bellagio Tourney three days straight.

Ram is world-class, no doubt at all, but we are talking "current form", as I recall.

How do I vote for Tikay? ::)

i didnt know all that about him.,.,.hats off top player .,one to watch i would imagine.,.,

OK being serious for just one sec, Tikay who out of Sofa's and your lists do you think could beat the 25/50 NL cash games on Poker Stars. They are meant to be very very tough games with lots of kids who know NL HE theory stone cold. Imagine a table of Totalises but some are probably a little bit better and some will be way ahead of tote.

Ram and roland I believe play higher so there's a good chance they could beat it. I would make the suggestion to get some discussion that John Gale couldn't. In fact i have seen some of these players who post on 2p2 ripping the piss out of some of John's play when they've been at the same table in tournements.

Cos the feeling is that anyone can get lucky in a few comps so the best way to judge a player is on his cash game play.

What relevance does 'current form' have in the super-high variance world of MTTs?

How do you know any recent multiple winner isn't just on a red hot luck streak?

Exactly

Entirely possible Andrew. The question was, well, the answer was, "on current form".

Over the longer term, based on British Tournament Play, I'd play safe & go for Monty Burns I think. We know he can do it year in, year out.

Who, of Sofa's list, could beat the Star's 25/50 NL game? No idea, but if I had to bet on two of them, I'd pick JP & Roland. But I just don't know, who does?

Could John Gale beat it? I have no idea of his cash-game skills. The Gale-knockers have been on his case a goodly while, particularly the kids, "he can't play", but have you seen his record? 6 x 6 figure cashes in 2 years including a WPT & a WSOP Bangle. Who else can boast that? A few, maybe, but not many. He has a very unorthodox style, & his oppos mock him for it. The man is grossly under-rated, & credit to the UK.

I know people will argue that every winner of a tournament has to luck out but have you seen the outdraws he puts on people! Its unbelievable. The prime example being the PL HE WSOP event, he should have been first out but hit one of his 3 outs with J 8 against A 8.
I dont dare say he is not a good player, he s excellent,  but when you get the luckouts he does it does make it a little easier!

And that awful beat he put on hachem by calling joes all in when he knew he was beat to luck an ace on the river! Most people would get punished for making them calls but he comes out smelling of roses in a lot more than he deserves!

Fair enough, but you can't tell only half the story. Did you see how John outplayed & out-thought our good friend Brian Wilson in the 2005 $5,000 PLH WSOP Final, only for Brian to repeatedly get lucky on him? Undaunted, he returned a year later, & bagged his own Bracelet. That's the way to do it. Look him up on the Databases & say you ain't impressed with his 2 year record. There ain't many Brits done as well as him.

I have to agree with tikay.

Who cares what the 2+2 kids or anyone else thinks? I'm sure John Gale doesn't. His record speaks for itself.

I'm not even going to try to be a judge on players so obviously more superior than me. I'm not nearly qualified enough to say someone isn't as good as someone else.

What I do know is, they're all pretty shit hot.

I agree I saw that too but i believe he got lucky heads up which ppl can do, john seems to get luck throughout.
I understand what he has achieved but like i said it is a little bit easier when you get the luck he does. Kudos to john and to be honest the uk wouldnt have had much of a showing over the pond if it wasnt for him!
You cant dislike him coz he is such a nice bloke anway! Bit like me!

Sorry, but I don't buy this "luckbox" thing. Do you believe in ghosts, too?

What you dont believe in getting a run of cards or times where you just dont seem to be a able to lose?

like on sunday you mean??? haha

John gale goy my vote- for tourny play-
 dont agree with this- I beleive they are different disciplines- with only the most talented and versatil turning their hand to both at the highest level. e.g phil helmuth  would not be my choice to play cash for me- have you seen high stakes poker?- wouldnt mind him playing the odd tourny for me though!

and yes some plays may be questionable/different hardly the norm- and does not highlight the brilliance of the rest of his play.

Excellent post!

If i had to pick 1 player off the list to play for my life i would flip a coin between JP and Stuart Fox.

No Ash Hussien?

Over the period I quoted for John Gale - 2 years - no, I don't believe luck had a material affect overall. He suffered bad beats, & he inflicted them, probably in equal measure. Most players spirit would have been broken after the mauling the Poker Gods gave him in the 2005 PLH WSOP Final. He bounced back & got his own bracelet a year later, again in PLH.

sigh! I give up, am fighting too many battles on here tonight!

had stuart fox and jp on my left in amsterdam masters classics both played sick good.... played with gale in wsop main event and seemed to have much better success against him.... not saying he's shit though lol

Been giving this some thought... The only player I actively sigh if he's on my table in a tournament is Ram.

But, if I had to give my bankroll to someone to play with the only player I would trust is not on your list. So, I guess my choice as the best in the UK is Ben Roberts.

Hmm, interesting. I find Marc Goodwin just abouot unplayable, but then I find most players unplayable I guess....except you Keith, when A-4 is usually enough.

Ben Roberts - well, in Cash, I'd run a mile if he sat down!

Saw you on tv using my "I looked at the king twice and I thought had two kings" line again.

I should have put a copyrite on that joke. You would owe me a fortune by now.

sorry guys but the vote is flawed there was a missread and i wasnt included

You watched me on TV? Wow, now that is sad. Or was you hoping to educate Jake?

Maybe Keith's TV is just above the fireplace and he needed to keep Jake away from the fire?

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From the list Ram, and somone who plays a lot more than Ram in the Uk my choice's gotta be Ali Mallu.

Anyone considered a certain Mr Willie Tann

On current form, no, but certainly he is up there.

I original question asks who the best player is  it doesnt mention form

willie has won up and down the country in europe and has a wsop bracelet

Also Willie is a master of more games than just holdem again the question is top poker player not holdem player

From the poll at the top of the thread.

'who do YOU think is the top uk live player at the moment'

I take this to mean current form is a factor.

Form is temporary  class is permanent

ahh, my apologies - well that makes the question even harder! But I thought it was on "current form".

Pete Costa was unbeatable in, what, 2001?, & I've seen him play "no look" & beat tidy tables.

I'm told Mr Ulliott was pretty handy in his day, too, though I've never seen it in my short time in poker to be honest.

On a ratio of Tourneys played to cashes, Tony Bloom did not do too bad, either, & he's just horrible to have on the table. (But a lovely man).

On a 10 year view, Monty Burns ain't done too bad either.

I experienced John Juanda in a Vegas WSOP Event, & he was awesome. Raymer is better than most rate him to be, too, imo.

I dunno, I'm gonna have to have a think on this. Bugger that sofa-king!

True, but as I now see, the question was "on current form".......

How recent is form though


Right now of course praz and john Gale

but would you see Ash hussain and Micky Wernick  are now out of form


If you consider other games  not many better Omaha players around than El Blondie

I may have to re-enter this debate.

On what TK said i used to really enjoy watching tony bloom play, he seemed very good at reading.and as mentioned got results!

Devilfish is aggressive but not showin form of recent (so sad but gotta be honest, he was my hero when i 1st started)

Elblondie is just a superb all round player in Omaha and NLHE, consitent and welsh!!!!!  

John Juanda is an absolutely awesome tournament and cash players, one of the best readers in the poker world and super aggressive!

John Gale gets it for me. Having played with a fair bit and sat and watched all of the final of this years wsop (not just the snippets of hands you saw on TV) the guy is absolute class. No banging table, no screaming or shouting he just gets the job done. The only other with a record anywhere near his is roland and he would be a very close second. I hear you shouting about praz and yeh hes took down a few events but imo he isnt in the same league as John and Roland until he goes and plays the big comps week in week out (I know he had a very good vegas last year but John and Roland have done it consistantly for a couple of years now)- I dont class a 1k event in bolton or the broadway to be a worldwide event like the ones John and roland have taken down.
anyone who doesn't think John can play is just wrong and jumping on the bandwaggon of forums like 2+2 where they say things like pwned etc. You don't win what hes won without having serious game.

I wouldnt say Devilfish is out of " form" lately. In december he won an event at the Bellagios 5 diamond festival,and got 1st & 6th in WPO events in Tunica in January. I think Daves trouble is that he cant be arsed in most uk events anymore, but he is still without doubt one of, if not, THE best player in the UK. On a side note, one of the most underestimated live tourny players is Paul Maxfield, shame he doesnt play live much anymore.

Why dont u contribute instead of flea picking most posts. Treat us with your pick and the reason why for a change

He was just defending me Craig. I'd based my picks, as the OP asked, on "current form", but someone queried them. I need someone on my side!

Id still like to hear his pick though ;)

I don't really consider myself to be qualified to venture much of an opinion on this one as I hardly play live poker at all. Just looking at results doesn't give much of an insight.

I will say this though. I played in the Will Hill thing last year with Tony G, Donnacha,  Roland and others yet felt they were mortal. Playing on Allen Cunningham's table at the WSOP made me think he was from another planet - by far and away the best player I've come up against.

:goodpost: ;)
Watching the other nights episode of William Hill was a good example of Americas finest vs our finest.  Esparandi was in a different league.

John lost it a bit at the Walsall event when his stack was dwindling on the table around level 7 of the first day. He got quite wound up by a waitress who was squeezing past the back of him to deliver drinks. (3-4 times in an hour) I think he wouldnt have been so snappy if his chip momentum was going up. Nice bloke though and to him its all about getting the right odds to call when chasing a draw.

He is the most "mathematical" & odds conscious player I've ever met. You have to be so careful when playing John, if you give him the odds, he disregards his cards & the chips go in. He knows - precisely - the odds of any scenario.

ive seen him make a couple of very bad mathematical calls.
But i can see that his style. Not a feel player at all!

VERY SUPRISED AT EL BLONDE COLCLOUGH ONLY 1 VOTE

It's because you qualified the question with "at the moment".....

I said earlier in the thread that over the last, & maybe next, 10 years, DC was right up there.

OK.,.BUT WHAT HAS CHANGED IN HIS GAME?

It has not necessarily changed, he's just not getting the really big results right now. He admitted last year that outside intersts had affected his game, & his form has risen steadily in the last few months.

I think he has changed his style. Hes appears to have gone back to his old style of playing. I think for a couple of years he tried to play like" a scandie" with any bag of ^%$# and it didnt work for him. In that time I saw him regulary make dreadful calls which he knew were terrible himself.. Since hes reverted back to his old style his results have improved and hes playing good poker again which he is renowned for

Tikay got 6 votes ?

No, none!

Someone's messing about - my name was not on the list until 10 minutes ago!

i wish you could here me play the piano on here ive been all night learning cole porters night and day sounds top.,.,.2 handed of course.,.,i cant read music if i listen to a song for a while i can play it .,.,.its called playing be ear.,.,sorry 0 to do with poker i was waiting for tony to ring me lol/.,.,

The question is clearly confusing people because it can be interpreted in various ways.

You could say someone is the top uk player of the moment, meaning that he is playing very well but not winning much.

In this sense, perhaps Willie IS the best player at the moment, but simply not getting the luck of others.

In truth, when you ask a question about 'the moment' it's always going to be translated as "Who is winning the most this year?", which, due to the short period, doesn't really mean much.

If you want to know who the best players of the moment are, then throw names that have been winning for years into the mix - they don't suddenly become crap overnight.

i love causing trouble hehe.,.,how you feeling m8?
wanna hear me on the piano?

Put yorself on YOUTUBE, so we all can enjoy it

I meant ONLY 6 votes, shocking !

how?

He just PM'd me. "Am gonna record my piano playing down the 'phone & send you a text message of it"....

Utterly, utterly, loopy.

Dont know sorry,

did you get it?.,.,.i been learning it since 6pm.,.,whatever you do dont tell me how to get on you tube.,.,i wont get of it.,.,magic.,.,piano.,.,stunts,.,.ohhhh go on then tell me how???

I VE started a topic on getting you help to get on, just a matter of time now m8

pm me your mobile number and i will send you a copy.,.,.,im soooooooooooooooooo talented  lol.,.,

He just sent me a picture of his piano playing. The pic was of two musical notes.......

press play you muppett

pm sent

so off topic lmao.,.,did you get it craig?

Yes,, it was fantastic, definately gotta get u on youtube now James

Yes,, it was fantastic, definately gotta get u on youtube now James

multi talented see.,.,lol.,.,it took me nearly 9 hours that lol,if i dont keep playing it for a few days i forget them ,.,sort of lol.,.,im gonna write a song for blonde.,.,not the real BLONDEY .,.,.

sorry, i'm bored

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interesting what difference a year or so makes. I was like WTF praz is as good as ram ??? and now although I obv have no way of knowing I certainly wouldn't argue about it at all.

FWF has gone from being just some "2+2 kid" to being clearly in the world's top 10 NL players.

I did wonder why Julian Thew was not on the list and then I saw the date of the original post.

which UK poker players can beat Stars 25/50?

Which British player is worth the most money from poker alone?

Does that include "off-Table" Poker Income? For example, & just an example, as I can think of several - Joe Beevers has done pretty well on th table, & I doubt he's done much buying in to Tourneys down the last 5 years, but he's also helped build an extremely successful Online Poker portal, & owns a hefty chunk, in THM, & he has several irons in other fires, too.

Do these sort of guys qualify, or are we talking "on-Table" only?

And "worth the most money from poker alone" is awkward. I can think of several who have won fortunes at Poker - & lost the lot (& more) "off-Table", at craps, roulette, gambling, whatever. So is it just those who hung onto it?

Very hard to define "worth the most"........!

Still tikay imo

 ;nipnip; ;nipnip; ;nipnip;

I love that smilie!

too many to mention, online winnings, tillerman- milkybarkid and chufty spring to mind

Well Ben Grundy must be up there now, pretty much universally considered one of the top PLO players in the world. Oh and 2million+ year.

Julian seems to be heading the list of live donkament players, in alot of peoples eyes now.


I honestly don't know Byron, is the answer none?

tillerman, jp, pab, flushy if he put his mind to it? couple of 2+2ers who don't post on blonde afaik, mostly young internet players I would imagine, but this is all guesswork of course, there must be a load i've missed

Interesting point Mr Kendall.

I guess my question is two fold then.

Which Uk poker player has made the most from poker results be it tournament/cash, online or live?

Which UK player has made the most from poker? Things like the incomes from the Hendon mob website or appearance money ppl like Roland get when they are on TV or final tables would count in this where they wouldnt in the first part.

I know this thread was originally made over a year ago, but I think Joe Beevers is a contender for both at the moment. I think he will end up the biggest winner from the Mob (tournament wise) in a year or so and reckon he has got a few more big titles in him, Im thinking a GUKPT or even a bracelet, it wouldnt suprise me to see him break into the top 3 English all time money list in the next two years. He also seems to be a very very astute business man and THM gets something like 100,000 unique hits a week. He could be our own version of Tony G.

Now we are talking my language.

Good Post. I'll try & Post some comments later, I have to go out for a few hours first. But yes, Joe has done very well indeed. Forget his "on-Table" winnings, off the Table he's made a mint. And hung on to every penny, I'd say.

I have a few more "Joe Beevers" typs in mind, too, who've done very well off-table.

I'm struggling to think of more than three UK players, "Live", who have won, "on-Table", &, crucially, kept, much.

Actually, Neil Channing could be a dark horse for both too. Obv he has had a cracking 12 months in tournaments, is still a big cash player and he is getting his mug on TV a lot. He does loads of wrting and commentary on TV. Has been involved in things like compiling poker odds for sportsbooks, he does very well betting on himself of course and he also likes to stake EVERYONE IN THE WORLD.

He doesnt seem the type to cover himself in poker logos for a few extra quid and I dont know how big a winner he is at the staking, but he deffo must be in the mix.

While Im ranting, Marc Goodwin too. Lots of good results lately and seems to be on everything at the moment, in all the mags and always going commentary.

In a slightly lower market poll, I have written 31% of all the poker articles in the world ever.

Top Uk based live player ?

Kara   ;tightend;



But then I'm biased.

 ;whistle;

How about Tikay? Lol.

It's "Top", not best looking.

Mine was serious suggestion!

Sky poker, blonde poker, amongst many other things!

I thought Roland came across well in the ESPN world series event where he came 3rd, some good calls and play.