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Title: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: Ironside on March 28, 2007, 05:11:10 PM is live on bbc parliment (sky504) and other digital media now
Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: RobS on March 28, 2007, 07:20:21 PM Blackpool is dying. It will be RIP if they don't win the casino. Utter disgrace. This Manchester poverty argument is a sham. Blackpool has alot of poverty, lack of employment etc etc too. It also has the reputation, knowledge and infrastructure to make Supercasinos work. I must say though, talk about putting all your eggs in one basket... Oh and being Blackpool, doesn't make me biased. Honest :-) Being from Manchester, I have to agree. Blackpool would be a better choice for this project. Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: Ironside on March 28, 2007, 07:23:18 PM the bill has just been defeated in the lords by 123 to 120
looks like no new super large or small casinos unless there is a rethink Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: bolt pp on March 28, 2007, 07:33:37 PM Good job!!!!
some skulduggery went on to deprive Greenwich!!! the lords have sussed it out as usual ::) Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: Wardonkey on March 28, 2007, 08:54:57 PM Does a casino really put more money into an economy than it takes out?
Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: tikay on March 28, 2007, 08:58:49 PM Good job!!!! some skulduggery went on to deprive Greenwich!!! the lords have sussed it out as usual ::) ANYWHERE except Greenwich, ffs. Idlly, somewhere with a decent road & rail system. And NOT London. Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: Ironside on March 28, 2007, 09:04:06 PM by the sound of the debate the bill might get through if they increase the number of super casinos/resort casinos to 4
also they need to annouce the supers before the closing date of the large and then annouce them before the closing date for the small ones so it might be 2040 before the first one comes online or come up with something else to aplease everyone Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: tikay on March 28, 2007, 09:09:18 PM What a mess! Nothing demonstrates better that Central Government should never interfere with the laws of supply & demand. They'll witter on for ever & achieve nothing meaningful except delay the inevitable.
Bring on the revolution. Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: Royal Flush on March 28, 2007, 09:27:40 PM What a mess! Nothing demonstrates better that Central Government should never interfere with the laws of supply & demand. They'll witter on for ever & achieve nothing meaningful except delay the inevitable. Bring on the revolution. I agree apart from the part about the revolution, we are better off than the alternative. Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: tikay on March 28, 2007, 09:29:53 PM What a mess! Nothing demonstrates better that Central Government should never interfere with the laws of supply & demand. They'll witter on for ever & achieve nothing meaningful except delay the inevitable. Bring on the revolution. I agree apart from the part about the revolution, we are better off than the alternative. My view of revolutions is that what comes round, goes round. ;) Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: AndrewT on March 28, 2007, 11:05:21 PM My view of revolutions is that what comes round, goes round. ;) (http://www.carogalake.com/images/merrygoround.jpg) Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: bolt pp on March 29, 2007, 12:22:50 AM What a mess! Nothing demonstrates better that Central Government should never interfere with the laws of supply & demand. They'll witter on for ever & achieve nothing meaningful except delay the inevitable. Bring on the revolution. I agree apart from the part about the revolution, we are better off than the alternative. My view of revolutions is that what goes around, comes around ;) I do imagine you going round and round in circles, possibly looking for some imaginary pet that you think you've lost or trying to remember where you live :D Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: bolt pp on March 29, 2007, 12:29:34 AM Good job!!!! some skulduggery went on to deprive Greenwich!!! the lords have sussed it out as usual ::) ANYWHERE except Greenwich, ffs. Idlly, somewhere with a decent road & rail system. And NOT London. seriously though, what do you think about the DLR, any good? thery're extending it to woolwich, thamesmead and across the water in time for the olympics. Ive found it to be very helpfull in buzzing around se london, but this is just the opinion of a novice. Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: doubleup on March 29, 2007, 12:36:37 AM What a mess! Nothing demonstrates better that Central Government should never interfere with the laws of supply & demand. They'll witter on for ever & achieve nothing meaningful except delay the inevitable. Bring on the revolution. Well it is the tories who caused all this - they threatened to scupper the legislation b4 the last election if 8 resort casinos were created, so thats how we got just the one and eventually this has led to today's events. Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: CrestOfaWave on March 29, 2007, 01:05:08 AM Good job!!!! some skulduggery went on to deprive Greenwich!!! the lords have sussed it out as usual ::) ANYWHERE except Greenwich, ffs. Idlly, somewhere with a decent road & rail system. And NOT London. seriously though, what do you think about the DLR, any good? thery're extending it to woolwich, thamesmead and across the water in time for the olympics. Ive found it to be very helpfull in buzzing around se london, but this is just the opinion of a novice. The DLR is ok if you are not in a rush. I get it quite often to get into the City or central London from City Airport - but if you need to get somewhere quick then taxi or express bus is quicker IMHO. I personally hope Blackpool gets the Casino even though the catchment area of Manchester is better placed. If people make an effort to go to the Supercasino then it will help regenerate the hotel infrastructure in Blackpool. Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: tikay on March 29, 2007, 01:17:11 AM Good job!!!! some skulduggery went on to deprive Greenwich!!! the lords have sussed it out as usual ::) ANYWHERE except Greenwich, ffs. Idlly, somewhere with a decent road & rail system. And NOT London. seriously though, what do you think about the DLR, any good? thery're extending it to woolwich, thamesmead and across the water in time for the olympics. Ive found it to be very helpfull in buzzing around se london, but this is just the opinion of a novice. Well Light Railways are not for the Rail Purists, but as Light Railways go, it's good. Services are very frequent, & the architecture of some of the Stations is innovative & interesting. The ride is very poor though, they have a quite sickening side-to-side "roll". Fascinatingly, although they are "driverless", (no Driver, no Guard, all automated) the front windscreen has windscreen wipers! I like to sit in the front seat & pretend to be the driver. The Victoria Line, on the London Underground is also, technically, driver-less & fully automated, but the Unions insist that a Driver sits in the cab. I suppose he pretends to drive it, too. Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: Jon MW on March 29, 2007, 06:03:59 AM Blackpool is dying. It will be RIP if they don't win the casino. ... I think the problem with Blackpools bid was that this was pretty much the extent of their argument. My impression was that Manchester's bid was a well thought out argument of WHAT they were going to do, WHY they were going to do it and HOW they were going to achieve it, whereas Blackpools bid amounted to a plea saying, but we NEED it. I don't know who put together Blackpools bid, but they're the ones to blame for Blackpool not being recommended to start with. Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: kenjude on March 29, 2007, 09:13:02 AM What a mess! Nothing demonstrates better that Central Government should never interfere with the laws of supply & demand. Dead right Tikay. Government has no business deciding how many, how big and where they should be. It should be entirely a matter for the the consumers and the service providers. Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: tikay on March 29, 2007, 09:19:42 AM What a mess! Nothing demonstrates better that Central Government should never interfere with the laws of supply & demand. Dead right Tikay. Government has no business deciding how many, how big and where they should be. It should be entirely a matter for the the consumers and the service providers. Thank you, & welcome to blonde "kenjude". May I point out to you, as a newbie round here, that you are the first Member ever to agree with me on anything, the Members treat me like an old dishcloth. I think I may love you. Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: Eyeofsauron on March 31, 2007, 12:43:31 AM The real shame now is everyone loses out.
Our "democratic" system is archaic. How can a bill passed by a majority of our elected representatives get stopped dead in it's tracks by a bunch of old cronies (sorry Tikay), who haven't been elected, and think they know what's best for everyone? Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: CelticGeezeer on March 31, 2007, 01:26:09 AM It is quite remarkable that we get a parlimentary vote on the size of a private companies casino, yet the invasion of Iraq dosnt warrant one?
Title: Re: manchester/blackpool supercasino debate Post by: Royal Flush on March 31, 2007, 01:06:23 PM yet the invasion of Iraq dosnt warrant one? yes it did |