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I was playing in a £20 f/o game at the local footie club which for me is more a case of a night out rather then playing serious poker, saying that I always like to play well and not treat it as a gambling session and hope for the best like many of these players do. There's 40 runners and I'm told the top four get paid. I've made the final and were down to the last 5 though I am relatively short stacked. It was mentioned earlier in the evening that they normally do a saver for 5th, ie his £20 back so I mentioned this and everybody agreed except for one young guy, who's clearly a tad stoned saying "no way man". I shall refer to this guy from now on as the boo monster. Well I have no problem with him declining the offer as I normally pay to win. I'm not even the guy at the table in the most danger of being knocked out as one guy would be allin on the blinds before it even gets round to me. What did however annoy me was how boo monster then proceeded to give me the mouth for about the next 5 minutes on how I was so desperate for the deal. He even continued this after Mr Short Stack had been knocked out and we are all in the money. He then has the cheek to call me chief in that oh so patronising manner so I returned the compliment and called him chief at which point he says "who do you think you are calling chief"and was genuinely a tad miffed. However when I pointed out he had used such the word to address me and that he then had no right to get out of his pram.

Anyway boo monster is so off his face that he is really slowing the game up. We are literally playing 3 hands ever 15 minutes (the length of each round) if we are lucky and as a result this already crapshoot game is whatever you want to call something which is far beyond being as quick as a crapshoot. Boo monster is constantly not paying any attention on the game and just talking to his girlfriend who like a young chav girl who thinks this bad boy is the man. Granted she was a fairly attractive distraction, and yes I would have, but she'll be there after the game has finished. Boo monster has to be constantly told it's his turn, it then takes him a further 45 seconds to a minute to react and another 2 minutes before he makes any decision. God help us if he decided to make any bet as it then took another couple of minutes to explain that he couldn't take his blinds back as these were required to meet the initial caller/raisers bet and he need to add more to the pot for a raise. After about 30 minutes of this the other players and I have lost all patience for this guy and what was a friendly game has become a real chore.

Anyway hear comes the dilemma. Boo monster gets involved in a hand which basically sees him or the other guy allin on the flop. They then flip over their cards and deal the turn and river. It is then announced the other guy has hit a pair and beaten boo monster so they start to count the chips to see if the boo monster is covered and knocked out. This took for ages as again the boo monster had trouble with basic maths and it took others ages to explain to him what the situation was. As they are counting the chips I look and see the board is showing 5 hearts. Neither player has a heart so it's a split pot. I've not had any involvement in this hand and quite frankly had switched off due to my frustration with boo monster. So what do I do, do tell them so the boo monster stays in the game and continues to slow it up and generally be a rude arsehole or alternatively do I say nothing as at the end of the day I not involved in the hand and it's up to them to take care of themselves.

I would normally say something but on this occasion I didn't. Boo monster had just pissed me off to much that I decided it would be more enjoyable once he had gone. I don't really feel I cheated him as he wasn't playing attention and it was karma for being a knob. The simply question is what would you have done???     

lol, the first thing you do is let us all know where this game is if there is only one person there who can read that 5 hearts on board doesn't means that one player wins with a pair!!! ;D

I would normally say something but in that situation you described I say NOTHING!!

If a player or dealer dont realise then thats it game over.

What I could have been inclined to do just to noise him up is once the potwas passed to the winner I would have pointed out there was a flush on board (Muhaha) Andwatched him go nuts :-) lol

I'm the same. In most situations I would always point it out. However guys like that really piss me off and I probably would have kept quiet as I wanted stoney to go out and never see him again.

I suspect the guy who was being passed the chips, a decent player, was fully aware of the situation even though he claimed not to when I had a quiet word with him at the end of the game. The fourth player still in the game was only marginally more aware of what day it was than the boo monster but I put that down to him being of a certain age rather having smoked any weed.  ;tk;

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I would say asbsolutely fuck all. Boo monster deserves it for being a twat.

Is 'boo monsters' previous behavior relevant?

Is it described, perhaps even exaggerated, only to justify the OPs subsequent poor behavior?

And indeed that is why I posted the question, for some people it is, for others it isn't.

As to whether I have exaggerated his behaviour just to justify my behaviour that is open to you to judge. The fact you say my "subsequent poor behaviour" suggests you would think I was in the wrong and should have pointed the split pot. Personally if someone is spoiling the game and making it a core and more importantly being rude why should I do him any favours. Fine if you want to, thats your choice, for me if someone is rude then karma is a funny old thing.

Boo's boorish behaviour would have made me more likely to point out the five flush.

You then say nothing, look for no thanks, say nothing to score points off him or anything like that and try your best not to look smug.

That's how bigger men are made.

or steroids

I would have said, "enough of this", knocked back the rest of my dom perignon, immediately got my chips in 6 ways , coldecked a load of full houses and quads with a rivered one out straight flush, winning the tournament in the process before grabbing his lady friend announcing that I was off for some lovin, but not before leaving a small box of milk tray surruptitiously tucked in his back pocket, devoid of chocolates, but with a hand written note saying "you're a twat."

Then I would have woken up from my slumber and realised I bubbled about half an hour ago and the 6 pints of stella had gone to my head.

now thats a proper response  lol


im saying nothing ..the twat

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i am not a monster

 :dontask: ;booboo;

The title of the thread suggests that you felt your behavior was at least morally ambiguous. I can understand your behavior, but you asked us to judge it, I judge that it was poor. In fact, I think you all behaved badly. I'm not saying your behavior was unforgivable or not understandable, I just don't think it was the right thing to do.

If 'boo monster' was behaving exactly as you describe then the dealer and TD have a responsibility to ensure the game is run at a reasonable pace and you can remind them of this responsibility. Failing that you can make your point by just calling the clock every time the action gets to 'boo monster'.

It up to the players as well as the staff to preserve the integrity of the game, when the staff are weak this responsibilty is greater, not less.

Love these threads, gives us all a chance to get on our high horses (or high donkeys) :)

I probably would have pointed it out without thinking, and then wished I hadn't said anything.

To be honest, I think it's fair game.

Other players responsibility to call his hand if the dealer has missed it, completely your choice whether you choose to speak up, no massive moral imperative to do the dealers/other players job for him.

It must be great to be so perfect and correct all the time. At the end of the day it is not up to diceman,especially when he was not even in the hand, to point something out. There were 2 players and a dealer involved that shouldve spotted this.


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FWIW,like 95% of responses you have had, I would not have said anything either.

I wouldn't have said anything either.

But I have no morals.

I've made no claim to be perfect or always correct.

I behave badly sometimes just like everyone else, I might even had done the same  thing as diceman in this situation.

I don't think it was the 'right' thing to do, I answered the original question in the same spirit that it was asked...

Indeed Wardonkey I started this thread because I thought it was an interesting dilemma and just interested to see what others would have chosen to do in similar circumstances. I am perfectly comfortable what I decided to do on this occasion due my perception of the said boo monster. I have no issues on whether people feel I was right or wrong in my decision just intrigued what others would do. I know for a fact that their are a number of people on here who would state the integrity of the game and be the better man, etc, etc but from most of the reactions via various forums the majority would have done the same. Whether this is right or wrong who can sayfor certain, hence it being moral dilemma for the individual. Whether it was a bad thing, well thats for individuals to decide.

As much as you think I behaved badly I find it amazing that people like yourself would choose to help somebody who had been an arsehole to you and the rest of the table just moments before. For me the important thing is this guy is responsible for watching the game himself and especially when he is involved in the hand. At the end of the day I'm not his baby sitter and I not setting out to cheat him by dealing him a bent deck. The circumstances were such that it was a self dealt game in a sports club with no TD. Ironically enough once this guy had gone and I was knocked out in third a similar situation happened again with regards to the remaining players going to split a pot as they pocket cards did not count as high cards however I noticed one of the players had a card that counted and I pointed this out. I normally would comment if I saw something as I did on this occasion, I just decided not to with the boo monster on account he was an arsehole.

So it was a self dealt game and you were 3 handed, who was dealing?

Perhaps I have a slightly different perspective on this than most, I worked in casinos for a long time. In my view the bloke being an arse shouldn't be a factor, I've paid out many an obnoxious customer in all kinds of different situations. I'm able to put aside the fact that he's an arse because I've done it many times before. Once you've done that you only have to decide if it's right to point out the error or not, quite a simple decision, I think.

I see where donk's ( ;) ) coming from here. By him not getting his fair share of the pot, in poker terms he is losing out on some equity/money.

So is this situation not morally equivalent to him dropping a 5er out of his pocket and no one pointing it out to him because he's been such an arse.

It's understandable but at the same time, it would be nice to think that we'd all pick the 5er up and give it him back.

In your position, I would have been very tempted to not say anything and get him out of the game for expediency's sake but my reasons for doing so would be motivated by self-interest, not because it was necessarily the right thing to do.

It was four handed and the boo monster was dealing the hand in question. If I was a paid dealer doing a job I would have automatically pointed it out as that is my job irrespective of whether the boo monster was being an arse or not. As a paid dealer I could always call upon the TD to sort out any issues. In this situation it was self dealt and the responsibilty is for each individual to be aware of what is happening. The rest of the table and I were sick of having to explain everything to this pothead and in return all we got was rude back chat. If he's not paying attention, guess what, it's his fault. That's karma.

If he had dropped a fiver I would have brought a round of drinks for the players that had to put up with the boo monsters crap. That or I would have put it in the charity tin.

What if he dropped a grand?

I would have got really pissed and the charity would have been very happy.

Sorry Wardonkey, I think the way i worded my post may have been wrong.

I did not mean to say that I think you think  that you are correct/perfect/whatever. What I meant to say is yeah it would be great to live in an ideal world and yeah in a perfect world we tell the guy the mistake. What I was trying to say is that the guy was being a dick and maybe got what he deserved.

I am sorry if I my post did not come across like that. I wasnt having a pop.

Don't make up already, only a week till the bash and a lot of people are travelling a long distance to see some sort of ruck in the carpark.


Ah shite, forgot I was a mod. Carry on with the peace pipe passing I guess. grumble grumble

Fair enuff Dan.

Misread on my part.

Im not saying anything here if im honest, this guy sounds like a total idiot and i can't stand people who aren't paying attention in live games. Should you say something, you probably should but in reality boo monster got what he deserved for mine.

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lmao...