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Title: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 07:12:20 PM
Does anyone know where I can find find picture re-sising software? I can make the pictures smaller in paint but I want to make the actual file size smaller.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: snoopy1239 on May 26, 2007, 07:19:47 PM
If it's for emailing and whatnot, you could use winzip.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: Bongo on May 26, 2007, 07:21:39 PM
Save it as a jpg in paint?

If you need it smaller than that there are other options but that would be the easiest.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 07:24:45 PM
It's from a digital camera, it's aready a jpg image.

Snoops, what does winzip do?


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RioRodent on May 26, 2007, 07:30:05 PM
I'm not familiar with Paint, but in Paint Shop Pro when you choose File>SaveAs... there is then an Options button. One of the options is to adjust the jpg compression... Low Compression = Best Quality / High Copression = Lower Quality (Smaller File).


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: snoopy1239 on May 26, 2007, 07:32:34 PM
It's from a digital camera, it's aready a jpg image.

Snoops, what does winzip do?

Winzip 'zips' up your files into one folder so they are easier to email to other people. Basically compresses them into one file.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 07:36:06 PM
Testing...



Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: Nakor on May 26, 2007, 07:37:07 PM
Tom,

Try http://www.shrinkpictures.com/ simple and affective.

Too slow.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 07:40:38 PM
Ok, I re-sized the Blackbird pic using stretch/skew in paint but now it's physically too small.

I need to change a 6 mega-pixel jpg image into a vga (Email size) without altering the dimensions


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: kinboshi on May 26, 2007, 07:49:10 PM
Use www.picresize.com (http://www.picresize.com).



Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 08:15:10 PM
Thanks guys


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 08:52:46 PM
I'm going to experiment with a few more. (pics taken while indulging in my favorite pastime of people watching)



Eating ice-cream the hard way




Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 08:58:21 PM
Baldy hits the bottle




Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 09:10:22 PM
Saucy




Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 09:24:35 PM
Very saucy...




Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 09:36:21 PM
I don't think you can can change the file size without changing the dimensions.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: kinboshi on May 26, 2007, 10:03:21 PM
I don't think you can can change the file size without changing the dimensions.

You can optimise JPEG files for screen use without changing the dimensions of the file.  Not sure if you can do that online though.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 10:06:36 PM
I don't think you can can change the file size without changing the dimensions.

You can optimise JPEG files for screen use without changing the dimensions of the file.  Not sure if you can do that online though.

How do you do it offline Kin?


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: kinboshi on May 26, 2007, 10:08:12 PM
I don't think you can can change the file size without changing the dimensions.

You can optimise JPEG files for screen use without changing the dimensions of the file.  Not sure if you can do that online though.

How do you do it offline Kin?

You need to use a graphics package - something like photoshop.  If you want to buy something to do it, Photoshop Elements is cheaper, and will do all the stuff you need (probably).   There are other packages out there to that are good - but I use Photoshop.



Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: Tractor on May 26, 2007, 10:09:01 PM
Photoshop does what you want.

Although to buy it is very expensive.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RioRodent on May 26, 2007, 10:10:04 PM
I don't think you can can change the file size without changing the dimensions.

You can optimise JPEG files for screen use without changing the dimensions of the file.  Not sure if you can do that online though.

How do you do it offline Kin?

As I said in post above... you can change the compression of jpg images, you just need a tool that can do it. ie. PaintShop Pro, Photoshop.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RioRodent on May 26, 2007, 10:12:03 PM
Thsi looks like it will do it - http://www.download3000.com/download_5817.html

Free demo, $25 to buy.

There probably are free tools out there.



Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 10:12:57 PM
I don't think you can can change the file size without changing the dimensions.

You can optimise JPEG files for screen use without changing the dimensions of the file.  Not sure if you can do that online though.

How do you do it offline Kin?

As I said in post above... you can change the compression of jpg images, you just need a tool that can do it. ie. PaintShop Pro, Photoshop.

Will changing the compression take a 2mb image down below 75kb?


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: kinboshi on May 26, 2007, 10:13:59 PM
About £60 for Photoshop Elements by the way.




Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RioRodent on May 26, 2007, 10:14:57 PM
I don't think you can can change the file size without changing the dimensions.

You can optimise JPEG files for screen use without changing the dimensions of the file.  Not sure if you can do that online though.

How do you do it offline Kin?

As I said in post above... you can change the compression of jpg images, you just need a tool that can do it. ie. PaintShop Pro, Photoshop.

Will changing the compression take a 2mb image down below 75kb?

You may need to compromise with size and compression to get it that small... it depends on thedetail in the photo.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: kinboshi on May 26, 2007, 10:16:25 PM
I don't think you can can change the file size without changing the dimensions.

You can optimise JPEG files for screen use without changing the dimensions of the file.  Not sure if you can do that online though.

How do you do it offline Kin?

As I said in post above... you can change the compression of jpg images, you just need a tool that can do it. ie. PaintShop Pro, Photoshop.

Will changing the compression take a 2mb image down below 75kb?

Ermmm, probably not without seriously degrading the quality of the image.  You can get a 2MB JPEG (unoptimised) down to about 200Kb which might be fine for screen use. 

Email a 2MB image and I'll optimise it and send it back so you can see the results.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 10:21:48 PM
It has to be no more than 75kb to post on blonde.

I just dont get why some pics appear big on blonde and some appear small.

It seems the bigger the file is to start with, the smaller you have to make it to post it here.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RioRodent on May 26, 2007, 10:26:56 PM
THis pic was over 2MB, it was 2592 x 1944 pixels.

By changing the compression came down to 340KB.

At 640 x 480 pixels it is now 35KB.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 10:29:35 PM
Saluki-greyhound?


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RioRodent on May 26, 2007, 10:30:39 PM
Saluki-greyhound?

Yes


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 26, 2007, 10:31:47 PM
Looks fit, do you work her?


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RioRodent on May 26, 2007, 10:51:39 PM
Not in a serious way... I'll occaisionally get up with the larks, or take them out a dusk to see if anyone has strayed too far from home.

Unfortunately if I take them both together they just chase each other!!!



Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: Kaibobble on May 27, 2007, 12:55:50 AM
A good one for resizing images in bulk quickly is Windows Power tools (<- search for that in google) go to the Microsoft website and half way down the page it's called Image Resizer.

Install that and now when you are browsing a windows folder containing images you can highlight as many as you want, right click and you now have an extra option to resize.

Good for live updates Jen and Snoops :)

Sorry not what you were looking for Red but thought it may be of interest to someone.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: Bongo on May 27, 2007, 01:23:17 AM
The GIMP is a free and full featured graphics program:
http://www.gimp.org/


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RichEO on May 27, 2007, 01:30:36 AM
Hopefully will cleare a few things up (just read the bits in bold if you don't care about my babbling!):

Resolution : pixels x and y, e.g. 2592 x 1944. Good for printing, pointless for on screen viewing. Most monitors are 1240x1024.
You said you were trying to get your images to VGA, VGA is 640x480 resolution, personally I would resize them to 800x600. (SVGA)

If people then want a larger version for printing and whatnot, they will have to ask for it.

Dimensions : means nothing to me...

Ratio : which is what I at first thought you meant by dimensions, is obviously the ratio of height vs width. When resizing, keep this the same and the image will look good in almost any size.

As most monitors are 1240x1024 they cannot display any image above this resolution at any greater detail. Any increase in resolution / filesize above this will be lost (not lost, but won't be represented  ;carlocitrone;)
A monitor at 1240x1024 is about 1.3MP, so MOST of you 6MP image is not shown. You could do an experiment, resize the image to the maximum size of you monitor and view that and the original, they won't look any different, now if you were to print them at the same size (lets say full page A4) they would look very different. Printing has a much higher resolution than screens do (it's called dpi in printing though) and you can change the dpi in printing, you can't with screens.

You can compress .jpg images but increases the fuzziness / blurriness if done too much. You will not save that much space by doing this but will lose quality if you go too far.

There is no point putting a .jpg in a .zip file, it will not compress it at all and may actually end up slightly bigger. .jpg is already compressed and the zip algorithms won't help.

I personally use photoshop to do all this. If you want a free, good package, I recommend GIMP for windows http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html It has its fame/roots from Linux.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RichEO on May 27, 2007, 01:31:11 AM
The GIMP is a free and full featured graphics program:
http://www.gimp.org/

Beaten to the post.

But I'd use my link, direct to the windows downloads.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RichEO on May 27, 2007, 01:43:40 AM
If you decide to use GIMP then I could give you a quick quide on what to do, it is pretty easy though.

One suggestion / essential is, whichever program you use, make a copy of your images now (preferably you have a backup already though!) and work on the copy, it is really easy to resize an image and then save over the top of it and only have a small version forever  :'(


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RED-DOG on May 27, 2007, 09:43:03 AM
TYVM. Ah'm a thinkin on it.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: Raindogs on May 27, 2007, 03:21:00 PM
If you already know how to use paint, you can resize using Stretch/Skew option (from the Image menu option).   If you want to reduce the photo to 25% all you do is put 25 into the horizontal and vertical % boxes.  Make sure you copy the pictures to a different folder before you edit them otherwise you could bugger up your original photos.

Another alternative: if you are using XP and Microsoft Outlook for your e-mail you can reduce the picture sizes when you e-mail them to somebody.  If you e-mail the reduced pictures to yourself you can then save the reduced sized pictures from the e-mails to use for posting on Blonde etc..

- Select the pictures you want to send in Windows explorer
- Right click on the mouse
- From the pop up menu select the "Send To" and then "Mail Recipient"
- You then have the option to "Make my Pictures Smaller".  If you select "Show More Options" you can select the size you want.



Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: KingPoker on May 27, 2007, 03:28:46 PM
Baldy hits the bottle




lol look at the baby's hair, its awesome!


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: fearisthekey on May 27, 2007, 05:52:19 PM
Ok, I re-sized the Blackbird pic using stretch/skew in paint but now it's physically too small.

I need to change a 6 mega-pixel jpg image into a vga (Email size) without altering the dimensions
art those blackbirds?
I love PaintShopPro, one day I know the CEO will come to my door demanding I finally pay for the shareware. www.jasc.com

I think it does batch conversion. Various ways to change image size, including dimension changing (very easy, percentages, aspect ratio preservation etc), changing color depth, and changing type of jpeg compression.

Maybe try winzip, I don't know how big an impact it will be given that it compresses and jpegs are already compressed.


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: Claw75 on May 27, 2007, 06:21:43 PM
Baldy hits the bottle




lol look at the baby's hair, its awesome!

I'll bet his teeth arent!  :o


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RioRodent on May 27, 2007, 07:59:10 PM
I love PaintShopPro, one day I know the CEO will come to my door demanding I finally pay for the shareware. www.jasc.com

Let me know if he does... I'll delete it before he gets to my house!


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: fearisthekey on May 27, 2007, 08:31:27 PM
I love PaintShopPro, one day I know the CEO will come to my door demanding I finally pay for the shareware. www.jasc.com

Let me know if he does... I'll delete it before he gets to my house!

lol

"You are on day 2048 of your 30 day trial. Press 'OK' to have a complete neural short circuit and register shareware for once, you tight b@stard."


Title: Re: Picture re-sizing software
Post by: RichEO on May 28, 2007, 01:03:35 AM
If it's for emailing and whatnot, you could use winzip.

Maybe try winzip, I don't know how big an impact it will be given that it compresses and jpegs are already compressed.

There is no point putting a .jpg in a .zip file, it will not compress it at all and may actually end up slightly bigger. .jpg is already compressed and the zip algorithms won't help.

 :-X