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I have had a serious complaint from Patrick Murray about this Post, on yesterday's Walsall Live Update.

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=24474.msg495717#msg495717   

Patrick (Murray) rang me this evening, he was pretty miffed at blonde, & me, to put it mildly. "Slanderous comments" was mentioned, & "slagging me off behind my back". I do not know if Patrick is a blonde Member, but it matters not really.

He feels the above Post is slanderous, on several grounds, which I intend to explain & dispel.

1) He states that "....and people are already shouting split pot, and then...." is wrong on two counts.

a) They did not shout such comments.

Our Updaters reported it as they thought they heard & saw it, no more, no less. Maybe they embellished it, maybe not, I don't know, I was not tableside. We do try & make the Updates entertaining, which sometimes includes some "artistic licence", but I have no idea if this was the case in this instance. We have never had a single complaint of this nature previously - our Members take them in the spirit they are constructed - an evening's fun & entertainment, some facts, some laughs, some poker. Dana has now said (& she's most upset about this) that someone shouted 'split pot', but more in an 'announcing a split pot was a possibility' rather than a 'I hope Pat loses kinda way'. Totally innocent Why should she suggest otherwise?

b) Our Post suggests Patrick is unpopular.

I think that is a little imaginative. Patrick is much-loved because of his "Fools & Horses" role, but we are happy to confirm that we strenously deny we made, inferred, implied or suggested that he was unpopular with the poker "railers". He is not.

2) ".....Incidentally, when people get themselves sponsored for an event in a kind of you-must-wear-my-corporate-shirt-all-the-way-through-the-comp sort of way, do they get more than one shirt? I mean, I guess a 2 day event's fine, but surely during longer events, the shirt must get gross over the course of 5 or more days of gruelling sitting around in it and sweating. Hotels do not always have quick laundry services.....".

Patrick feels this part of the Post implied we were referring to him. We were not. There's not more I can add to that - we were not. Anyone who knows danafish will testify, that sort of thing is just not in her nature. As I said at the end of the Update, it included beautifully eclectic & varied prose - it's just how we keep the blondes amused, speculative chit chat & unusual "angles" on all things related to poker. I can confirm, 100% totally, we were not referring to Patrick. Why on earth would we do that?

Finally, Patrick feels I have a problem with him. Because, allegedly, I "never smiled at him " yesterday, & was "off".

I don't have a problem with him. Fact. I've met him maybe twice before - in Dublin last year, at a Charity Event. I did not "know" him as such & we were never introduced, or spoke.

Then I got to play a few Private SNG's wth him & others, in the Lobby of the Holiday Inn, Bolton, this time last year, after a day in a big Fessie Comp at Grosvenor Bolton. We got on fine. I don't actually recall ever meeting him, those two instances apart, before or since. Until yesterday. How could I have a problem with him?

Was I "off" with him yesterday? If I were, it was certainly not intentional, what possible grounds to dislike him could I have?

Let me say this though. I have about three "real" friends in life, & I keep it that way, deliberately. By "real friends", I mean folks who I'd invite back to my house. For what it's worth, I have never had a single visitor to my home since Wendy & I split up, three years ago. I am, happily, a very solitary person, & like it that way.

I've had a very busy week, so yesterday I gave myself a rare "day off". I was staying at The Village Hotel, Walsall, as I was needed by Poker Week early Monday morning. I was in my room, watching the Live Update, & was gutted to read Tom had busted out. Tom is one of my two or three real friends. We'd chatted before Day Two started - Tom was desperate to Final - no more, no less, so I knew he'd be "down" & "flat". So I rung him the moment he busted out. "Come across to The Village Hotel Tom, Room 103, let's have a pot of tea". He did that, we chilled for maybe 3 hours, & discussed all manner of personal things, including some very serious personal problems I have right now. It was just lovely, we chilled terrific, & we both said after, "we must do it more often". I then had a kip, while Tom went back to the Casino to buy me & he in for the £100.

Tom rung me later to wake me up, "they start in 20 minutes", & I dashed across. I needed to finish a matter we'd discussed earlier, to thank him for his advice. So as soon as I got back to the Grosvenor, I sought him out over this personal matter we'd chatted through. It was a very serious matter indeed, about my future, enough to change my entire life - trust me. Just as we got into conversation, Patrick ambled up, wanting, I guess, to chat. It was the wrong time, though he was not to know that, so I simply shook his hand & carried on chatting to Tom. Remember, I know hundreds - thousands? - of poker players, Patrick is just one of them. He is an OK guy, I assume, I don't really know to be honest, but let's assume so. These poker "friends" are, technically, "acquaintances", and I am sincere & generally polite to them all. But I am not "owned" by anyone, & I'm sorry about that, but it's the way it is.

Had I of known what a hue & cry would have come from that simple situation, I may have played it different. I try to be pleasant & polite to everyone - always, that's just how I am.

I might add that I had a heap of problems at Grosvenor on Saturday & Sunday that you could not begin to guess at. So did plenty of others, there was deffo bad blood around. Texts & phone calls were flying back & forth, scores of folks know the score on that one. But not from anyone, or to anyone, who was present on Saturday & Sunday.

A long & rambling clarification then, & you may wonder why. If you'd been on the end of the 'phone call, you'd understand.

Patrick, I have no problem with you. OK? And it's wrong of you to suggest danafish would deliberately blacken your good name. She would not, & did not, she's a lovely lass, everyone & anyone will testify to that. She's pure gold.

I take full responsibility for danafish when she works for blonde, & any comments she made, & for anything blonde does. She is dreadfully upset & hurt by this palaver, as is her fella, snoopy. (In this instance, she "rescued us" as were were short of an Updater). It's wrong she should be so accused.

This is very sad.

Who'd run a Website, eh?

By the way- have you seen the grief I get? My age, hair, belly, clothes, incompetence at poker, eyesight, misreads, APAT, da de d de da?

It's rarely intended. Well, just a bit, I guess.....

Folks need to understand, blonde is a fun site.

Yes, but we only do that because you're old, fat, bald, short sighted, and daft.

a storm in a tea cup if you ask me!  rotflmfao


seriously there isn't a thing wrong in danas post. nothing that hasn't been said by all updaters along similar lines in a number of updates.

my feelings are that mr murray is being a little over sensitive( adam m syndrome  rotflmfao only kidding adam x).

as for feeling that tony has a problem maybe and i add maybe he feels because he was in the most successful sitcom of all time that gives him the right to be interupt 2 old friends chatting and to have instant undivided attention from them.

tony is a very busy guy and as he said he knows thousands of poker players (and a few fish). he has often greated me very fondly and other times very quick and to the point getting back to what he was doing. i didn't take this as him having a problem with me i just put it down to the silly old fool over working himself again.


i think the knock at danas update post was just convenient. chin up dana you do a great job  :)up


tony im sorry to hear about your personal problems, i hope it all works out for you mate.

Dont let it get to you

Age: your younger than Methusela
Hair: You're hardly Kojak and it was a fun choice
Belly: Tighty, Kev (for now), Me and others take up more room in the average lift
Clothes: Seen worse
Eyesight: you have glasses to sort that out
APAT: Nothing wrong with that, going well
Incompetence at poker/Misreads: errr, errrr, at least you have your own teeth

Thank you, but I used the wrong term there - "personal dilemmas" more than problems, I think. Easily solved really, but life-changing.

I can honestly say it does not get to me at all - in fact, I quite enjoy it. Correction, I thrive on it. Because it's done in jest, in fun, & that's what blonde is about.

Anyway, the thread is not about me.

whatever you call them mate i hope you sort to how you want them. im sure you will, good luck

Storm in a tea cup - he's not royalty.
NEXT.

lol no i used that phrase because tikay said he invited red dog over for a nice cup of tea lol

 :goodpost:  ;iagree;

I agree - but Mr Murray requested a "clarification".

OK - I'd like to clarify that as far as I am concerned nothing was meant from it - I read the updates and until now had not even taken Dana's comment as anything but a general one.

I'd also like to clarify that I think Mr Murray may be being over sensitive and that the poker world doesn't revolve around him. In a world of men wearing pork pie hats maybe.........

I've never known Tikay to be anything other than polite and well mannered in any circumstance - and I know there have been times when his patience has been stretched to its limits.

My message is - if you're told you're a big fish in poker it doesn't mean you're important. Message ends.

I wonder how big my catalogue of complaints would be!

Hold on - they are just preparing the paper now

LOL Mickey You Plonker :)

I thought Dana's posts on the live update where class.  When she is updating I spend most of my time laughing at the posts I just think the girl is hilarious, she has a whacky sense of humour and has a style of writing that makes you feel part of the action.

Mickey or whatever his name is is annooyed so what, he's a grown man get on with it.  I mean he probably only wants a bit of free publicity.

 ;iagree; :goodpost:

iv spoke to micky a few times and never knew he was like this .

as for tk he talks to me when he finds time lol,no realy i think its all been blown out of proportion .

where would us lot be without the updates .

wd floppy and dana keep it up.

LOL Mickeypearce-aments

 rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao


Pure class JC

On the subject of sponsor's shirts:

Betfair gave me six of them with my name embroidered on too when I won my 2005 main event seat with them.

Rather a shame that I only needed one  ;reallyamsorry;

Good post and can't agree more.

The lady is a class act on the updating. Go girl!!

Geo

Brilliant  rotflmfao

Tell me did he ask "don't you know who I am?" well now I know who Patrick Murray is, but can't believe this is for real. If he can't see it was a general statement and not aimed at him then I can only assume he has only read the update entries where he is mentioned and failed to notice Dana's style. She has nothing to feel upset about as she has done absolutely nothing wrong other than provide excellent entertainment for the audience (although norkage factor was pretty low).

maybe if he turned up at the blonde bash he was supposed to he might have got a better understanding of what goes on here.

get over yourself Patrick

Can he take you to court? I would love my wife to defend Blonde Poker over this :) She would have a field day.

Maybe we should ask RookieITB Rodney what he's really like?

 LOL....it seems to me that ABSOLUTELY no slur was given or intended.......and that the only person that read something into it was Mr. Murray.

 I think he should apologise.

If the report was more or less the same other than a Kd hitting the river I wonder if you'd have heard?  What a very strange thing to get annoyed about, though it does sound like his real beef was with you "snubbing" him and this was a excuse to raise that issue.

In general I agree with ITB & Tracey (http://www.worth1000.com/entries/119000/119048BgIF_w.jpg)

I have always found the people connected with Blonde to be perfect professionals. The presence of Blonde at these events certainly adds something special in my opinion.

Another big attraction of festival poker for me is the sense of community therein. It was fantastic that a few of us Walsall boys took on the best when they rolled into town and held our own. The best in this instance included a number of Blondes who all played hard but fair. RED-DOG was at my table throughout, he was a knowledgable chap and conducted himself like a real gentleman. NoFlopsHomer also seemed like a top-man.

When you are involved in a community, especially one within the high-pressure world of tournament poker a bit of banter lightens the load. As far as I can see the ever-entertaining coverage we as members get from these events is something to embrace. A sometime dry comment often means endearment rather than criticism when part of such a family.

Well I watch a hell of a lot of poker on TV as well as following the updates since I've been on the site. Who's Patrick Murray?

And if anyone sees the posts on the live updates as nothing but entertaining then they're looking at them for all the wrong reasons

Dana is  ;topman; she's slotted in with all the other updaters wonderfully. All there coverage is exceptional. Simply the best.

I once had Tikay on my table in Southampton couldn't get the man to shut up...........

Nobody is nice all the time and we are all affected by outside influences.........as people go Tikay in my experiences is rock solid. nuff said

Dana keep reporting as you see it. You see it okay to me

hey patrick,

it's norman pace here. as a minor tv celeb of the 80's myself, i am perhaps the only person on this forum, apart from m. greco who can fully understand the position from your point of view.

on this forum, my personal stature has been pilloried (a lanky 5'7"), it has been suggested that i used to be funny, and more to the point, various members of blonde truly believe that i think there are five 5's in a pack of cards. in summary that i am short, boring and stupid.

we faded, washed out, former somebodies are easy targets for the well educated, erudite and gifted updaters who scape a living by working their fingers to the bone at the coalface of poker.

to show how i feel about your treatment on this site, i promise that i will read this forum everyday, post when so moved and attend blonde bashes. that'll show 'em

i wish to remain anonymous. (please watch sky poker tonight. ch 846)

Good post, Norm!

Mickey Pearce,  I think.    What is the name of the chracter who said to Rodney  " Hi Dave ".  Is that Mickey?    I was never a big watcher of TV shows

Sark I think you are getting him confused with Roger Lloyd Pack who plays trigger he's actually quite a good actor.

Right,  thanks mate.  I need to watch more British TV shows I think  :D .  I only really know the two main characters Dellboy and Rodney,  oh and the guy who played Boycie.   

A scandalous accusation, which I very much doubt came from anyone connected with this forum.

The big guy, with the tache on the other hand.......


 ;bumwiggle;

I think I've worked this one out Tony.

Firstly, Johnny and Patrick noticed that the updaters had given them some free advertising on the site by mentioning the shirt.

Then Johnny puts Patrick up to complain about the updating, so that you re-post the link and they get some more free advertising.

All publicity is good publicity.....Brilliant !

Ian.

lol class!

 In the late 80s I ran a restaurant/bar in Shepherds Bush that used to do the" end of series" parties for Fools and Horses.
 It was the one time of year when the regular staff were given the night off and the place was staffed " by star spotting friends" for free !!

Only read the first few posts of this thread and had to click reply immediately- I'm sorry but my first thought is who the fk do you think you are. You are in our world now and on here everybody gets the piss taken out of them. The thread in question I was reading live and rooting for tom and womble and in no way was dana being disrespectful to you. If you gonna get all touchy about the comments made in that thread then poker isn't for you as you will get far more over the table. Your sponsor JT is a master of rubdowns and pisstaking at the felt so ffs don't be so touchy ( I have been on the recieving end of some of JT's comments and he can make even a diehard speachplay expert like myself feel uncomfortable). Tikay gets more stick than anyone on here with him being an old fart and other "minor" celebrities like Norm Pace (the short one who used to have a funny partner) and "beppe" take it in their stride so why can't you? If you gonna survive in the poker world you gonna have to get a thicker skin imo. I would assume you didnt speak to JT before taking offence here as he would've told you not to be such a mard arse- all the bloody same these soft southern fairies.

Dana keep up the good work please girl and don't let him stop doing what 99.999999% of the forum like, feel free to rip me to shreds at this weekends poker6 and I promise to not sulk or throw a strop because you've refered to me as bald/fat/noisy/ugly/etc etc etc.

Just read the rest of the thread and good to see most agree with my sentiments but probably say it a little more diplomatically than me. Good to see that shortarse norm got in on the act and I have to say what a great way to plunge another plug for skypoker in- the guy is a real pro loool.

Patrick Murray interviewed me for a tournament I played last year (Jonny Texas Invitational). He was the presenter for the final, and I thought he seemed like a decent enough guy. I'd seen Only Fools a few times, but was never a fan, and as such had never seen his character in the show.

I read Dana's post and couldn't see a single thing wrong with it. I think Dana (and the rest of the team) do a great job with the blonde updates. Of course there is artistic license and exaggeration here and there. It's rarely personal, and if it is (usually at Tikay's expense lol) it's all done in good nature.

So, don't worry Dana (and definitely don't be upset!), there is nothing wrong with your post. It's just someone being *extremely* over sensitive.

Rofl so so funny but true.

absolute f*cking class norman! see you can be funny when you try  ;) rotflmfao

I think gareth must have written that post tbh though

I think Mrs P wrote that post.  Far too funny for Norman.

She's a better poker player too. 

;D

Brilliant!!  ;tightend; Very well said x

btw just have to ask...I watched fools and horses only occasionally (didn't think it was that funny...sorry) but just googled patrick murray in only fools and horses and don't remember him at all. Have I not been paying attention when watching it, or was he not in every episode?

he was rodneys friend that was more a background character

always wanting to get in on a deal


del set him up to babysit at damian wedding

he made the bet with rodney over who would get a dance with cassandra

So you didn't watch it either then?

i've got the dvd box set

top quailty show for its time

funniest ever moment in tv was delboy falling through the bar

ah...never heard of him..but that's good..it  wouldn't be good if Dana had upset David Jason, Patrick Stewart, Barry from Eastenders, Big Bird or Micheal Greco or someone like that ...you know...a proper big name actor that I actually would have known from something...and she would have had to punch him in the face...or spit at him ..on purpose..while calling his mother all sorts of names..

that would have been bad...but a general post about poker players taken out of context by an over sensitive bit part actor who these days can probably only get support act jobs in third rate panto's in sheds in the Highlands which are being promoted as starring "that bloke who does commercials for Civic bang" (because Barry Scott (see? I know who HE IS!!) draws bigger crowds...atleast 15 me thinks... than he does.

nah that's ok.

Patrick Murray seemed a friendly likeable bloke when I met him at a Poker club in the Costa Del Sol. Didnt act above his station and had a laugh at the table...but of course you have to take the stick with a pinch of salt, thats part of the poker crack.

Great post from Norman, and he gets his fair share of the proverbial, I genuinley loved Hale & Pace...Sunday nights bring em back!!!! and your golf show was great from the Costal Del Sol as ive played on a lot of them...you still play out there Norm?

Hale and Pace was brilliant!

Those two together were great, that undefinable chemistry that the best double acts have.

I remember meeting Norman a few times at the Vic where he came across as a really affable guy, even when he was having the piss taken out of him for his wife schooling him at poker in that particular comp!

Don't ever feel unloved Norman, there's a generation of folks who think you're the dog's particulars.

but Norman, if you could get Les Dennis to sign up instead of you that would be great.

Cheers

lmao...

rotflmfao

Agreed, great program.  Norman, I'm staying near Alhaurin Golf and Lauro Golf in a few weeks, do you know them? What you reckon?

better hope that scott harrison isnt around causing trouble in the local brothels....

did you know that dutch tv (RTL) actually made their own version of OFAH, called Wat schuift? which I believe means whats it worth....


I'm sure that was funnier :)

I have really tried to resist posting on this thread as a regular poster here and also becoming a friend of Pats over the last year,I didnt want to get involved.
I know nothing of the phone conversation between Tikay and Pat nor do I want to, but after Tikays responce (clarification)
I hope its put to bed.

I decided to post after what I feel is becoming a thread against Pats personality or character when Not one of you really know him, to think hes pretentious or likewise couldnt be further from the truth.
Last week he was asked to sign about a dozen autographs not once objecting and often chatting to them answering lots of questions about Fools & Horses,while we were in Vegas last year he was regulary stopped and asked to pose for a photo never once refusing( I bet some of the so called " celebrities" on here wish they were even recognised away from these shores)

Its been made clear that Dana wasnt intending anything against Pat and I really hope its all sorted now.

Some people have mentioned that if you play poker you have to accept a lot of pisstaking ,I should know I give out most of it, but if its not your cup of tea then no you shouldnt have to accept it.
The banter which goes on between blonde members is great and thats why this place is special but  pisstaking of non members who may never read this forum and therefore have no defence is not ok.

I really enjoy the creative writing of the updaters and truly hope this missunderstanding has been put to bed.

Please can I first up apologise completely and unreservedly for any offense caused to Mr Murray by my post. I posted in good faith, and my intention was never in any wise to offend a player who is clearly a familiar and well-liked face to many.

Someone did call out "split pot" before the river was dealt, but my understanding of that was that they were announcing that a split pot had become a possibility, not that they were somehow willing Mr Murray to lose. Mr Murray evidently read a different kind of nuance into this than the one I meant to convey, so big apologies to him for this.

Secondly, my comment about the shirt was in no way directed at Mr Murray. I had an honest, innocent question for the forum readers regarding what sponsored players did in longer events - I was honestly curious as to whether players in epic 5-day-or-more-type events received more than one shirt (thanks for clearing that up, Karabiner!). Regular forum readers will know that random questions occur to me all the time, and I generally just go ahead and ask them without necessarily considering all the possible implications of my actions. The possibility of Mr Murray taking this as a personal slight simply did not occur to me, and I am of course mortified that he may have taken it as such.

I have never met Mr Murray face-to-face and I am not familiar with his acting work, but I have now heard from a variety of poker- and non-poker-related sources that he is an all-round Top Bloke. Mr Murray, I would like to buy you a drink at the next event we both attend, just to show, you know, no hard feelings.

Staying in Alhaurin El Grande where Harrison's villa is.  However, I'm not a Glaswegian, Policeman or Spanish brothel owner so he probably won't try to beat me up.

:goodpost:

Ooh, I don't really know...

...if that would be a good idea.

 ;marks;

Massive respect to you Dana- Though i like most of Blonde feel you need to offer no apology- However on a genuine note i do have a complaint about your updating...

When you photograph me playing can you-

A- Photoshop a bigger stack in front of me
B- Paintshop me a full head of stylish hair
C- Make me look about 4 stone lighter
D- Arrange for a rail of gourgeous adoring fans behind me

Not to much to ask i think.... don't make me phone Tikay...

x x x

how about you get mr murray to sign up and post his side of the story?

dana has been brave enough to post her views and apologies (for what i dont know)

waiting with anticipation.....

personally i don't think theres anything else to be said on this matter .

dana made an apology ,which i didn't think she really needed to do .

pat is a nice bloke who looked at things the wrong way .

as craig said we don't really need no more on the subject (put it to bed ).

and again you lot are the best for the updates keep up the humor .

how boring would it be without the wit.

gl guys

          barry .

ps just booked my flight for Vegas 21st june for a month .

god help the sceptics.

how do we know pat looked at things the wrong way??

have i missed a post?

Barry you are right. Whilst Some other British TV comedies were good in the 80s, Only Fools really was peerless. Particularly the chandelier scene. and the falling into the bar scene. and that other one.

Only Fawlty Towers exceeds it in my book, but to be really sceptical that was down the comedic genius of Cleese and Cleese alone.

tighty when i say god help the sceptics i mean the sceptic tanks (yanks)lol.

Oh Barry I am sorry, how silly of me.

I had a Sceptic tank once, but a bit of Savlon soon cleared it up

my god have you tried to get a job with norman.

Has Thomas been ill? Is that why he hasn't posted much recently?

Hey Barry

I'm out there from 28th for two weeks. See you out there for a couple of quiet beers no doubt! :)

A little bit harsh on Connie Booth methinks oh wise one

Cue for another telling of Reddogs septic tank story...........

Connie Booth. Sigh.... She looked like a propper goer, I fancied her something rotten.

You know you're the main man tighty but this is rubbish!

Connie Booth = class
Andrew Sachs = class
Prunella Scales = class
John Cleese of course = class.

Plus Blackadder > Only Fools i reckon though both are very good. (Not including the weak first series)


Think you'll find you're not alone on that one and she was 37 by the time I was born!

OK Guys, let's wrap this thing up.

Life goes on, it's done with now, & I want that we all move forward in a civil & friendly manner.

I must make it clear that the Clarification was Posted at Patrick's request, after he rejected my suggestion that he was free to sue us if he so wished. I needed to find "closure", hence I suggested a Clarification Post, which Patrick accepted.

blonde did nothing wrong, & I have never had any problem with Patrick - at least, not until last night! Patrick read something into a Post, and my demeanour on Sunday, that was just not there.

Let's move on please, & I wish Patrick well. Should Patrick wish to Post his version of events, we'd be delighted, so as to ensure balance, all he has to do is sign up as a blonde Poker Forum Member. I'm sure he'd be well received.

Let the tikay & Flushy-baiting continue though, that's what makes this place half the fun it is.

Connie was my bit on the side for a few years, as it happens.

You sure you are not getting confused with these two - Miss Gatsby and Miss Tibbs?

They both look like Connie Booth to me. So you could well be right. 4-4 man.

Like a dagger to the heart

really?..must have been after I left the Netherlands...and we do very shitty remakes (We tried, they think it's all over and Have I got news for you and they were awfull)..but yeah probably still better than Only fools and horses..I just never got that

without wishing to appear rude could soemone tell me who Patrick Murray is please?

lol as far as im aware hes mickey pearce rodneys dodgy mate on only fools and horses

I wouldnt worry.. i didnt know either haha

ok cheers, he a very good actor for sure, Im sure this episode is a bit of a misunderstanding.

Norman Pace 5ft 7in     now that's a joke.   The man will never make it. Bev on the other hand

What a plonker!

PS Please don't sue me

Aspades
My Tuppence.... for what it`s worth.

I know Tikay and I wouldn`t say we were close friends more like "far acquaintance's"
I also know Patrick and on the same footing.
When friends rail friends obviously they root for their pals..it`s only natural and happens at all tourneys.
What Patrick possibly fails to realise is when it`s Blonde V None- Blonde some bias will occur especially if the Blonde in question is popular and liked by the rest of this motley crew!
My advice Patrick...leave Jonny join the Blonde Clique and all your worries will be over.
Alternatively buy a good flack jacket and join me and one or two others in the "outsiders" brigade ;bumwiggle;

Neither of the two players in the hand were blondeites.......

Aspades
Apologies ..then I misread thread.
But ...rest of comments stand
PS. Blonde updates are..sometimes a little bias but..very good none the less.
Cheap hard hats and flack jackets can be bought at...

why does everyone of your posts slag off the people of blonde??
If you dont like it........!
Im sure there are other forums available that cater for your sour outlook on life and people better!

EDITED BY TIKAY TO REMOVE FLAME

it doesnt get much more reasonable than that.

(Removed KP's quoted flame)

This thread started with a complaint from a 'non-blonde', and an explanation from TK that Blonde is welcoming of outsiders, and is not intentionally offensive.

There is a danger that the further this thread progresses, we will increasingly disprove TK's initial words.

You are absolutely right Jakally. And of course, once one guy gets arsey, other retaliate, & that's the start of a slippery slope.

I am afraid blonde 17 does have a problem with us, that's his absolute right, but that's another matter, for another thread.

The "flame", in retaliatiion to his comments, will be Deleted.

Lets face it, she made a comment about his sponsors shirt at the start of the post, then subsequently made another ill-advised comment regarding sponsors shirts at the bottom of the post. When she used the word 'Incidentally', he's well within his rights to think that she was drawing a comparison to her earlier description of his shirt.

It's just bad reporting. If she called me smelly, i'd be a bit peeved too.

But yeah, just get that Denzil geezer from Only Fools.. to rough him up a bit. Job done.

always lessons to be learned in a growth business.

gl

Aspades
ERR..... I don`t have a problem with you or Blonde or any members of Blonde. Tikay...I just point out things from as you call or your fellow blonde's call "An outsiders perspective" which if I am not mistaken assumes that I am not in "The Blonde In Crowd" which is a comment I would totally agree with.
To say my outlook is sour or malicious ..well if that is the way you see it fine but that is not my intention.
Oh and just for the record (IMO)your site has some great items including the updates and updater`s but also has some total rubbish but that just gives it a balance like all sites and forums. ;frustrated;

Adv.   1.   incidentally - introducing a different topic; "by the way, I won't go to the party"
by the bye, by the way
   2.   incidentally - in an incidental manner; "these magnificent achievements were only incidentally influenced by Oriental models"
by chance, accidentally
   3.   incidentally - by the way; "apropos, can you lend me some money for the weekend?"

You're completely twisting what Dana reported.

Thanks - i try my best not to attain any kind of standards otherwise i have to make an effort :)

Please if any of you get on mickey pierces table in future events be careful of offending him. Whatever you do dont start singing bow chicka bow wow or anything similar ;)

I really dont think Dana was implying he had the same shirt on for more than one day and surely nobody can be that sensitive. As an answer to danas question in every event I have played my sponsor has supplied me with enough shirts to wear a fresh one every day for the duration of the event- unfortunately I only usually get to wear one of these shirts so I have a wardrobe full of ariston wsop05/06 ausiie millions06 type shirts still in the sealed up bags :(

dealer from hell how dare you say its bad reporting.

i challenge you to get a better forum ,for the updates and the topics .

Sort him out next time you're in The Vic vinni  ;nemesis;

That's natural though surely? If someone from the blonde forum is running good in a comp it makes sense that they would get more attention on the updates as the readers want to know how they are getting on....

Exactly........and it's this personal Blonde touch that helps makes the updates as good as they are, but this support never crosses the line into being disrespectful to other players though.

Quote from: Royal Flush on Today at 06:40:42 pm
Quote from: blonde17 on Today at 12:30:40 pm

Apologies ..then I misread thread.
But ...rest of comments stand
PS. Blonde updates are..sometimes a little bias but..very good none the less.
Cheap hard hats and flack jackets can be bought at...


That's natural though surely? If someone from the blonde forum is running good in a comp it makes sense that they would get more attention on the updates as the readers want to know how they are getting on....

Exactly........and it's this personal Blonde touch that helps makes the updates as good as they are, but this support never crosses the line into being disrespectful to other players though.



How right you are. When JP runs well in the WSOP we want to know. If a Blonde is on a final table I am sure they get a boost from the support they get from the site. I remember once coming back at the end of day one in Luton. When I read the updates I felt even better knowing that the following day I had the support of all Blondites on the final table.

For the record Kev the final table is the one you go to when all but the last nine players remain. Not when you enter a sit and go.

 rotflmfao

how has kev not mentioned singapore yet?

Has Kev been to Singapore?

As for the complaint I can see both sides to this and how the post by Dana was interpreted regarding the shirt and she has apologised and offered a drink etc, so why are we still flaming this one up?

so what's the answer:

Did he change his his shirt or not????

Did he make day two ?

I rise above the comments Pab ... I find it gives me more ammunition to sling back when the time is right ;)

Is that singapore sling?

Kev's been to Singapore ?

Post of the Week!

I thought i should add this just for the comedy of it all......


Speaking of bias posting....

is blonde17 Pete Singleton  ??

Apparently so!


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit- Flushy gets 2 massive P.O.T.W votes in 5 minutes, well done that man!!!!!

oh my ..... im saying nothing LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Flushy for mod  ;yippee; rotflmfao rotflmfao ;yippee;

Well i've just caught up on this thread and there's many a point to be made, altho many have been already. I had to google Patrick's name to find out who he was, and when I did I realised he's the guy from one of my fave shows who I met in Vegas and seemed quite an affable chap.

But, I'm afraid, even giving him the benefit of the doubt he's very wrong here. The main point - Dana'a point being slanderous - is absolute nonsense (to be polite), and having been a journalist for 10 yrs and managed to avoid any court cases having studied hard and passed my journalism law exams, I think we all know if patrick really thinks he's been slandered no-one at blonde would have any qualms about a court case.

Secondly, I don't know Dana at all, I don't think I've ever met her (I may be wrong), I'd say I know each of the other updaters better. They all have their own style, wit, wisdom, pros, cons, personalities and writing abilities. I find Dana's updates fun, amusing, sarcastic and challenging, and the question about sponsored shirt wearing is just an example of the fun, sideways look at things she always brings.

Thirdly, the answer about the shirts. As Ariston and others said, most of the time you get a load of shirts that you're never lucky enough to get to open. In Barcelona at the world head up recently tho, I only took three ladbrokes shirts with me (surely even that is being optimistic - Roy the Boy told me it was lol). Being lucky enough to make the final, which comes on day seven, meant I was in trouble! When I made the last 8 I got back to the hotel (Barcelona Princess, one of the best I've ever stayed in) at 4am and phoned the night porter and asked if it was possible to get some laundry done by 3pm that day. He told me to call back at 7 when house keeping turned up. I said I didn't want to get up at 7 and could I hang it outside the door and him leave a message. I was woken up at 1pm with a knock on the door to find two lovely pristine laddies shirts waiting for me!! That's service!! Didn't want to tempt fate so repeated the whole thing when I made the final too!!

Lastly I just want to say there's nothing in Dana's post, she was doing her job, and in the usual fine style she always does. Make sure you don't change that Dana, as I said you bring something unique as an updater and it's very much appreciated and enjoyed by us readers. I hope Patrick understands that and that will be the end of the matter (from both sides). Blonde, as Dennis said, is a fine site with a lovely community spirit and the fun injected by the updaters makes it what it is.

PS never interrupt two old codgers when they've just poured themselves a cuppa

 Aspades

Didn`t I say Blonde was a decent site? good updates /staffers etc?

But we still want to continue muck raking...well OK a few home truths

Pete Singleton is Blonde 17...
Pete Singleton did not post the "blow your own trumpet" post in 2005..but he will take the flack for it. He knows who did and the person in question was very drunk and full of themselves at the time...more a TV person than a poker player lets say and leave it at that.

Tikay had a bust up with Pete Singleton on a comment he (Pete) made to the Sky Poker bods when the show first aired and for some reason now best known only to Tikay he now wants to keep on with this tiresome.. Singleton has a problem with Blonde routine.
Well just for the record..
Pete Singleton has no problem/beef with blonde or any member there of.

I will  say what I think to peoples faces and not anonymously on a forum.
My comments may be a little cutting/cynical but are not intended to be personal, sour or vindictive.

And finally a question for flushy...Why the shit stirring James?
One week it`s " Can you help me and confirm/save a seat at the World Heads Up please" and the next it`s " Can I wind Singleton up as well please uncle Tikay"?

Come and tell me all about it at the next GUKPT, and bring Uncle with you too.
We can all have a nice cup of tea and discuss it ;
 ;izimbra;                     

Pete Forgive me, but I cant let that comment pass without a reply.


June 13th

Blonde17

My advice Patrick...leave Jonny join the Blonde Clique and all your worries will be over.
Alternatively buy a good flack jacket and join me and one or two others in the "outsiders" brigade

June 3rd

Blonde17

how I love this clique sorry click...am I banned yet?

April 2nd

Blonde 17

AT LAST SOMETHING ACTUALY WORTH DISCUSSING ON BP

March 2nd

Blonde17

Same old shit on this site all pals scratching each others arses

For someone who doesnt have a problem with this site or its members, you do a fantastic job of impersonating someone who does.

As i understand it you are part of the WHU team, i contacted you under your professional capacity at the WHU (or my understanding of your task there, i may have got it wrong) I also happen to have met you before so figured you would be the best person to speak to on the matter. I also know you through Matt which made it seem even more logical to contact you.

After i contacted you, you sorted out what i needed and i am most grateful, you have never been anything but a gent in my presence and i enjoy sharing a table with you.

However, the reason i am 'shit stirring' is that you seem to be on some crusade against blonde, deny it all you want but even in Barca you were harping on about 'the blonde clique' now that is your opinion to have, i have never made a point of it before as its your right. You allude that i am 'siding' with Tikay, in this case i am, i think you are being a bit sad in your quest to rubbish the blonde forum, however it's not because i am in some clique. If you actually took some time to read the forum you will notice that i am quite often the sole dissenting voice to some of the projects/statements laid out by those at blonde poker.

The reason i posted that quote was because it was pretty damn funny, as you have pointed out it was not you who made the post so not quite as funny any more, but at the time it gave me a good chuckle.

 ;sleep;

I have no knowledge of your relationship with Tikay, the only time i have actually seen you 2 in the same room you were chatting to each other. As such Tikay may or may not have a problem with you, that is between you two. What i will say it is not just him who thinks you have a problem with Blonde Poker! Yes he may be banging that drum but its clear to anyone that you have a problem.

sod it.

Firstly if you look at the post this is all supposedly about from the point of view it is about you then it is understandable why the guy thought he was being called a smelly tramp (if he smokes then obviously that's what he is anyway eh?).
I really think that reading between the lines of the OP that the guy just simply wanted TK to say "look we weren't actually saying you never changed your shirt for 5 days" but instead gets set up for a pillaring and indeed that's what happens.
As for the clique thing, well every bugger and his dad knows blonde is a clique along with every other forum out there.

lol, im so amused

who is pete singleton?

QFT

Aspades

For the last time guys...
I do not have a beef with Blonde or any members of..OK

Pick out and slant my comments which ever way you like but..

My opinion that I feel blonde is very "clicky" is well known I don`t hide it ...It`s only an opinion nothing more.

I have no hidden agenda to "Rubbish Blonde" but my views do differ from a lot of others once again ...my views...nothing more.

My last comment on this matter is try to differentiate between cynical dry humour and vindictive muck raking with only half truth`s. Tikay may be God to some of you guys but to the rest of us he`s just another player trying to get by. You earn respect in this game (Poker) and your word is your bond. I may not be well liked by all but, most respect my word because when I give it ...It`s good.

So let it lie and I promise next time I will try to be more"Diplomatic" with my comments....If only.

 ;thankyou;

ty, i'll be here all week

:goodpost:
Why this thread is continuing is beyond me. Pat asked for clarification, Tikay gave it, END OF FFS.
I hope Pat joins Blonde and responds , I definately know this was his intention as of last night, but to be honest after the continued snide comments I wouldnt bother, which is a damn shame because he would have been able to contribute in so many ways. To try and say there isnt a clique on here is total crap, but ike IFM said thats the way with forums. It doesnt bother me because of the type of personality I am, willing to speak my opinions to peoples faces, but not everyone is like that and it can be intimdating to new members at times.

For those asking "Who's Pat Murray"? well you may not know the name but you would def know the face.
If you put  Pat and anyone who has ever posted on Blonde in a room full of people I know who would be the most recognised face  including M Grecco  and that bloke from Hale & Pace

hale and pace were just one bloke?


masters of illusion

Have you not met Ed?

(http://www.blondepoker.com/images/uploadimages/blondeites/indestructable.jpg)

He won Casino Casino so he did.

The bloke from Hale and Pace who posts on here.(dont know his name unfortunately)   You sir are no master of comedy but a master in baiting? perhaps ;)

I should learn from you, your content is pure genius obv, probably way above my intellectual level as i dont get it, but maybe someone can explain it to me

Its never funny when you have to explain it

ok, ill just let everone else enjoy the moment,     


'deafened by background laughter'

Is this still going on? Isn't there poker to be played?? Oher things to do? :dontask:

Enough already    ;tracet;

my oh my, some people shown their true colours on here, who cares who has been on t.v or not? what makes a man who has better than a man who works hard for a living?  some people on here need to dry their eyes and concentrate on having fun in life and enjoying the things most precious to them!   god speed

p.s i used to think blonde was cliquey (sp) until i actually endevoured to interact with people and have a bit of bantor

I couldnt give a **** whether someone has been on tv or not, and anyone who knows me knows that too. What I do give a **** about is when people criticise someone they have never even met or havent a clue about.
It was asked " whos pat murray". I gave an answer. maybe I should of just put up a photo of him to stop any confusion of my intentions

Wow. So many different viewpoints on this thread and so much to reply to. One arguement sparks another and so on.

To go back to the original point of the post.

Obviously not many people know who Patrick Murray is, or can remember his character in Only Fools, but who cares? Does that make him any less of a poker player? I had no idea who he was when I met him, but he seemed like a decent enough chap, and he was obviously well into his poker. That was good enough for me :)

Dana made a comment about split pots and shirts. Not ill-judged or offensive in any way imo, but I can see how it could possibly be taken the wrong way (It's very hard to convey body language and light-heartedness via email or forum posts. Sometimes things can be taken verbatim, without the obvious nudge or wink that was intended).

The shirt question is something I've wondered myself. I normally provide my sponsored players with 5 or 6 good quality shirts that they have to wash themselves lol (They certainly don't get a new one each tourney they play! Good on you Ladbrokes for doing that though!).  5 or 6 is enough though isn't it? Well, most times it is, but on more than one occasion, the boy Carter exceeded my expetations and made day two of 3 or 4 events in a row at some festivals. That meant he'd have to wear one of the shirts twice! Arghghghgh!

Sometimes people choose to wear the same shirt non-stop for 7 days, as it might be bad luck to change it! If I ever made day 2 in a tourney, god knows I'd wear the same shirt again!! :D

With respect Pete, If you make free with your views regarding blondepoker and the members, and then qualify it by saying "It's only an opinion nothing more" Then surely you must realise that they in turn will make free with their views regarding you.

So why then ask them to "Let it lie?" After all, it's only their opinion, nothing more.

???

I nominate this thread for Best of Blonde :)

I think Jungle's "MickyPearceaments" post should be in there, what do you think?  ;D

F*** me i've just wasted another 30 minutes of my life.

Craig you really believe he is more of a "celeb" than Beppe? One of the main characters from the a soap opera v one of the side characters (no offence meant before I upset him- but he wasn't one of the main characters ie rodney or del) from a comedy show. I would say if you put me in a room full of poker players (and this is a poker forum which is why many are saying who is........) that i would probably be better known than him and I've never done ball all mate. I agree about Gareths sidekick from Hale and Pace though, even bev would struggle to pick him out in a crowded room.

I wasn't even at Walsall so I don't know what all the fuss is, maybe someone could actually explain to me (via pm please- even you craig if need be) what this is all about. Had Mickey spilt his dinner down his shirt or something because I can't believe this is still raging on (and before anyone says it I have dropped an egg butty down my front just before an event starts before but I still sat in my seat on time- we are poker players not fkin models after all). We have a player in blackpool who constantly seems to have beans or something dropped down his shirt and he is the butt of many jokes about him being sponsored by heinz etc- he has been playing years though and takes it in his stride because poker players have to have thick skin.

Good reason for that... ;whistle;

Aspades

Because Tom the original thread was regarding Patrick Murray ( Mickey Pierce)
and has now gone off track completely!

blonde threads have a habit of going off topic.  I suspect that your original post may have been a turning point.

Aspades

OK...well I take full responsibility for that.

Next time I make a post I will....Err not make any cynical or sarcastic comments that could pervert the course of justice and will only use "smileys" so as not to get misinterprated in any way and....not drink before posting!
In fact come to think of it posting doesn`t seem much fun with so many restrictions so....that may be the answer...Don`t...just read.

Tom your mod days just got a whole lot easier!  ;technolog;

For those asking "Who's Pat Murray"? well you may not know the name but you would def know the face.
If you put  Pat and anyone who has ever posted on Blonde in a room full of people I know who would be the most recognised face  including M Grecco  and that bloke from Hale & Pace
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who cares?? :dontask:

who cares?? :dontask:
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its a lot easier to use the ;bump; smiley

its a lot easier to use the ;bump; smiley
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thank you most helpful (have we not got a tommy tanker smiley?) oh well il use this instead  ;nanana;

thank you most helpful (have we not got a tommy tanker smiley?) oh well il use this instead  ;nanana;
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try using the 1 in your profile

try using the 1 in your profile
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god your funny  rotflmfao go find that gareth hale guy apparently he needs a new partner!

Pack it in fellas please


life's too short and I am in the middle of making my tea.


No man comes between me and my tea

Wouldnt have noticed  ;whistle;

This is why people sometimes have a pop at this site.

Yeah, after all, NOBODY is allowed to express an alternative opinion. If you publish stories in the public domain, they are open to critique.

I happen to think the updates are really, really good, and when one major tournament player that shall not be named started slagging off what he called "failed players" in a festival last year, I stood up for you lot and said that it's an invaluable source of information.

but does a woman??

Doubt it.....

nah, not unless she looks like a roast potato

roast potato? what about (a) watermelon(s)?

melons are fine.


In moderation.

hmmmm

roast potatoes or melon

To make your choice easier ; cold roast potatoes or cold melon....

Hot melon.

this close enough ?

Wow, that'll have Tighty & Kev salivating.....

Not me mate, im a changed man. :)

not Kev,

unless he can put it in a salad...

I thought someone else logged in on your computer and started "that" thread ::)