blonde & Patrick Murray - a Clarification

[tikay]

I have had a serious complaint from Patrick Murray about this Post, on yesterday's Walsall Live Update.

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=24474.msg495717#msg495717   

[tikay]

Patrick (Murray) rang me this evening, he was pretty miffed at blonde, & me, to put it mildly. "Slanderous comments" was mentioned, & "slagging me off behind my back". I do not know if Patrick is a blonde Member, but it matters not really.

He feels the above Post is slanderous, on several grounds, which I intend to explain & dispel.

1) He states that "....and people are already shouting split pot, and then...." is wrong on two counts.

a) They did not shout such comments.

Our Updaters reported it as they thought they heard & saw it, no more, no less. Maybe they embellished it, maybe not, I don't know, I was not tableside. We do try & make the Updates entertaining, which sometimes includes some "artistic licence", but I have no idea if this was the case in this instance. We have never had a single complaint of this nature previously - our Members take them in the spirit they are constructed - an evening's fun & entertainment, some facts, some laughs, some poker. Dana has now said (& she's most upset about this) that someone shouted 'split pot', but more in an 'announcing a split pot was a possibility' rather than a 'I hope Pat loses kinda way'. Totally innocent Why should she suggest otherwise?

b) Our Post suggests Patrick is unpopular.

I think that is a little imaginative. Patrick is much-loved because of his "Fools & Horses" role, but we are happy to confirm that we strenously deny we made, inferred, implied or suggested that he was unpopular with the poker "railers". He is not.

2) ".....Incidentally, when people get themselves sponsored for an event in a kind of you-must-wear-my-corporate-shirt-all-the-way-through-the-comp sort of way, do they get more than one shirt? I mean, I guess a 2 day event's fine, but surely during longer events, the shirt must get gross over the course of 5 or more days of gruelling sitting around in it and sweating. Hotels do not always have quick laundry services.....".

Patrick feels this part of the Post implied we were referring to him. We were not. There's not more I can add to that - we were not. Anyone who knows danafish will testify, that sort of thing is just not in her nature. As I said at the end of the Update, it included beautifully eclectic & varied prose - it's just how we keep the blondes amused, speculative chit chat & unusual "angles" on all things related to poker. I can confirm, 100% totally, we were not referring to Patrick. Why on earth would we do that?

[tikay]

Finally, Patrick feels I have a problem with him. Because, allegedly, I "never smiled at him " yesterday, & was "off".

I don't have a problem with him. Fact. I've met him maybe twice before - in Dublin last year, at a Charity Event. I did not "know" him as such & we were never introduced, or spoke.

Then I got to play a few Private SNG's wth him & others, in the Lobby of the Holiday Inn, Bolton, this time last year, after a day in a big Fessie Comp at Grosvenor Bolton. We got on fine. I don't actually recall ever meeting him, those two instances apart, before or since. Until yesterday. How could I have a problem with him?

Was I "off" with him yesterday? If I were, it was certainly not intentional, what possible grounds to dislike him could I have?

Let me say this though. I have about three "real" friends in life, & I keep it that way, deliberately. By "real friends", I mean folks who I'd invite back to my house. For what it's worth, I have never had a single visitor to my home since Wendy & I split up, three years ago. I am, happily, a very solitary person, & like it that way.

I've had a very busy week, so yesterday I gave myself a rare "day off". I was staying at The Village Hotel, Walsall, as I was needed by Poker Week early Monday morning. I was in my room, watching the Live Update, & was gutted to read Tom had busted out. Tom is one of my two or three real friends. We'd chatted before Day Two started - Tom was desperate to Final - no more, no less, so I knew he'd be "down" & "flat". So I rung him the moment he busted out. "Come across to The Village Hotel Tom, Room 103, let's have a pot of tea". He did that, we chilled for maybe 3 hours, & discussed all manner of personal things, including some very serious personal problems I have right now. It was just lovely, we chilled terrific, & we both said after, "we must do it more often". I then had a kip, while Tom went back to the Casino to buy me & he in for the £100.

Tom rung me later to wake me up, "they start in 20 minutes", & I dashed across. I needed to finish a matter we'd discussed earlier, to thank him for his advice. So as soon as I got back to the Grosvenor, I sought him out over this personal matter we'd chatted through. It was a very serious matter indeed, about my future, enough to change my entire life - trust me. Just as we got into conversation, Patrick ambled up, wanting, I guess, to chat. It was the wrong time, though he was not to know that, so I simply shook his hand & carried on chatting to Tom. Remember, I know hundreds - thousands? - of poker players, Patrick is just one of them. He is an OK guy, I assume, I don't really know to be honest, but let's assume so. These poker "friends" are, technically, "acquaintances", and I am sincere & generally polite to them all. But I am not "owned" by anyone, & I'm sorry about that, but it's the way it is.

Had I of known what a hue & cry would have come from that simple situation, I may have played it different. I try to be pleasant & polite to everyone - always, that's just how I am.

I might add that I had a heap of problems at Grosvenor on Saturday & Sunday that you could not begin to guess at. So did plenty of others, there was deffo bad blood around. Texts & phone calls were flying back & forth, scores of folks know the score on that one. But not from anyone, or to anyone, who was present on Saturday & Sunday.

A long & rambling clarification then, & you may wonder why. If you'd been on the end of the 'phone call, you'd understand.

Patrick, I have no problem with you. OK? And it's wrong of you to suggest danafish would deliberately blacken your good name. She would not, & did not, she's a lovely lass, everyone & anyone will testify to that. She's pure gold.

I take full responsibility for danafish when she works for blonde, & any comments she made, & for anything blonde does. She is dreadfully upset & hurt by this palaver, as is her fella, snoopy. (In this instance, she "rescued us" as were were short of an Updater). It's wrong she should be so accused.

This is very sad.

Who'd run a Website, eh?

[tikay]

By the way- have you seen the grief I get? My age, hair, belly, clothes, incompetence at poker, eyesight, misreads, APAT, da de d de da?

It's rarely intended. Well, just a bit, I guess.....

Folks need to understand, blonde is a fun site.

[RED-DOG]

Yes, but we only do that because you're old, fat, bald, short sighted, and daft.

[turny]

a storm in a tea cup if you ask me!  


seriously there isn't a thing wrong in danas post. nothing that hasn't been said by all updaters along similar lines in a number of updates.

my feelings are that mr murray is being a little over sensitive( adam m syndrome   only kidding adam x).

as for feeling that tony has a problem maybe and i add maybe he feels because he was in the most successful sitcom of all time that gives him the right to be interupt 2 old friends chatting and to have instant undivided attention from them.

tony is a very busy guy and as he said he knows thousands of poker players (and a few fish). he has often greated me very fondly and other times very quick and to the point getting back to what he was doing. i didn't take this as him having a problem with me i just put it down to the silly old fool over working himself again.


i think the knock at danas update post was just convenient. chin up dana you do a great job  


tony im sorry to hear about your personal problems, i hope it all works out for you mate.

[Robert HM]

By the way- have you seen the grief I get? My age, hair, belly, clothes, incompetence at poker, eyesight, misreads, APAT, da de d de da?

It's rarely intended. Well, just a bit, I guess.....

Folks need to understand, blonde is a fun site.

Dont let it get to you

Age: your younger than Methusela
Hair: You're hardly Kojak and it was a fun choice
Belly: Tighty, Kev (for now), Me and others take up more room in the average lift
Clothes: Seen worse
Eyesight: you have glasses to sort that out
APAT: Nothing wrong with that, going well
Incompetence at poker/Misreads: errr, errrr, at least you have your own teeth

[tikay]

a storm in a tea cup if you ask me!  


seriously there isn't a thing wrong in danas post. nothing that hasn't been said by all updaters along similar lines in a number of updates.

my feelings are that mr murray is being a little over sensitive( adam m syndrome   only kidding adam x).

as for feeling that tony has a problem maybe and i add maybe he feels because he was in the most successful sitcom of all time that gives him the right to be interupt 2 old friends chatting and to have instant undivided attention from them.

tony is a very busy guy and as he said he knows thousands of poker players (and a few fish). he has often greated me very fondly and other times very quick and to the point getting back to what he was doing. i didn't take this as him having a problem with me i just put it down to the silly old fool over working himself again.


i think the knock at danas update post was just convenient. chin up dana you do a great job  


tony im sorry to hear about your personal problems, i hope it all works out for you mate.

Thank you, but I used the wrong term there - "personal dilemmas" more than problems, I think. Easily solved really, but life-changing.

[tikay]

By the way- have you seen the grief I get? My age, hair, belly, clothes, incompetence at poker, eyesight, misreads, APAT, da de d de da?

It's rarely intended. Well, just a bit, I guess.....

Folks need to understand, blonde is a fun site.

Dont let it get to you

Age: your younger than Methusela
Hair: You're hardly Kojak and it was a fun choice
Belly: Tighty, Kev (for now), Me and others take up more room in the average lift
Clothes: Seen worse
Eyesight: you have glasses to sort that out
APAT: Nothing wrong with that, going well
Incompetence at poker/Misreads: errr, errrr, at least you have your own teeth

I can honestly say it does not get to me at all - in fact, I quite enjoy it. Correction, I thrive on it. Because it's done in jest, in fun, & that's what blonde is about.

Anyway, the thread is not about me.

[turny]

a storm in a tea cup if you ask me!  


seriously there isn't a thing wrong in danas post. nothing that hasn't been said by all updaters along similar lines in a number of updates.

my feelings are that mr murray is being a little over sensitive( adam m syndrome   only kidding adam x).

as for feeling that tony has a problem maybe and i add maybe he feels because he was in the most successful sitcom of all time that gives him the right to be interupt 2 old friends chatting and to have instant undivided attention from them.

tony is a very busy guy and as he said he knows thousands of poker players (and a few fish). he has often greated me very fondly and other times very quick and to the point getting back to what he was doing. i didn't take this as him having a problem with me i just put it down to the silly old fool over working himself again.


i think the knock at danas update post was just convenient. chin up dana you do a great job  


tony im sorry to hear about your personal problems, i hope it all works out for you mate.

Thank you, but I used the wrong term there - "personal dilemmas" more than problems, I think. Easily solved really, but life-changing.

whatever you call them mate i hope you sort to how you want them. im sure you will, good luck

[Dingdell]

Storm in a tea cup - he's not royalty.
NEXT.

[turny]

Storm in a tea cup - he's not royalty.
NEXT.

lol no i used that phrase because tikay said he invited red dog over for a nice cup of tea lol

[scottm]

Storm in a tea cup - he's not royalty.
NEXT.

  

[tikay]

I agree - but Mr Murray requested a "clarification".

[Dingdell]

I agree - but Mr Murray requested a "clarification".

OK - I'd like to clarify that as far as I am concerned nothing was meant from it - I read the updates and until now had not even taken Dana's comment as anything but a general one.

I'd also like to clarify that I think Mr Murray may be being over sensitive and that the poker world doesn't revolve around him. In a world of men wearing pork pie hats maybe.........

I've never known Tikay to be anything other than polite and well mannered in any circumstance - and I know there have been times when his patience has been stretched to its limits.

My message is - if you're told you're a big fish in poker it doesn't mean you're important. Message ends.