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The SAW 4 website is now up and running! Can't wait for this, love them... Oh, and the 1st SAW = BEST.ENDING.EVER.

www.saw4.com

Wooooooooooow that film looks good. On the preview on IMDB i give it a full  Aspades Ahrt Ac Ad :D

Sweeeeeeeeet. the first 3 were amazing.  Can't wait.

As with most series of the films 2 and particularly 3 didn't live up to the first one. Hope this is better

yep, though i thought 2 was still good.

In comparrisson to the first two though 3 was sub standard

Obviously the 1st SAW is the best one, but i still really enjoyed 2 and 3... I still get shivers watching the first one now!

Very imaginative stories, considering how young Leigh Whannel (Adam in the films) is, his horror/thriller writing is superb...

Too blood thirsty  :D ,   I prefer Back to the Future

Cary Elwes and his terrible acting actually spoiled the first one for me. And he was so good in the Princess Bride. :(

Another classic... Andre the giant RIP

1st saw had a huge plot hole, 2 was good 3 was awful. These films try to go for shock value and this is ruining plot and character.

But the new film from the makers of saw looks good, the revenge one with Kevin Bacon

Which was?

I can t remember but about 20 mins from the end i dawned on me and a friend, so i havent watched it again. Also the guy didnt need to cut his foot off. He could have cut his tendons at front and back, it would allow him to point his toes manually and slip out of the chain.Also why saw through the chain when you could saw through the pipe, The pipe was alot softer than bone.

Its one of those films that if you don't like people think your mad, Its a bit like thinking friends is unwatchable.

Think your looking a bit too close at the plot there but i guess your right... I think if you looked at every film this closly you'd never be satisfied with any plot!




Now i do agree with you there...

His acting drove me crazy, but didn't ruin the film.  Not like Knightley and Bloom in POTC!!! Why he insists on shouting every line is beyond me!  And don't get me started with her ridiculous pouting!

On the website now you have to fill out a form to enter properly, and it seems to only except USA residents, must be a way around it, umm...

I saw Saw
I've seen Saw2
I've still to see Saw3
And now soon, Saw4?

Out friday!!   

www.saw4.com

www.officialsaw.com

I think I know where u will be Friday night then

Indeed, Cheshire Oaks friday, Liverpool saturday!

I watched Saw I at the cinema, but only saw Saw II and III this week.

I have to say that Saw II was an entertaining, if far from perfect affair, but Saw III was just terrible. Too many flashbacks, a terrible angle with a far from intriguing Amanda, too much Jigsaw, tedious sets, gore instead of tension, numerous plot holes, etc, etc. Also, why has someone who has been picking on drug dealers, murdererss, police informants and so on suddenly think a nurse who takes the odd depressant pill and a poor fellow who's having trouble letting go of the death of his 8 year old kid are worthy of mental torture and a lesson in morals? Doesn't make sense for me. And who the eck are we meant to get behind as the audience? There doesn't see to be a 'hero' of any kind to lead the film.

I get the feeling that they have forgotten the fundamental basics of a good horror movie and have decided that as long as they keep coming up with new and fascinating traps to pleased the perverted (yep, I'm one of them), they don't have to worry about the storyline or character development.

I hope Saw IIII is better, although I have a feeling it won't be. Less is more with these things.

I think with films like this you will always compare it too the first one, and they'll probably not live up too that, but I still really enjoyed them all the same...

Saw III had the pig mulcher, though.

I enjoyed the concept of Saw 1 and even thought it was a horror film it had enough to make you think. I thought Saw II was ok, but some bits didn't make sense to me and was starting to drift from the idea that made the first film interesting. I haven't seen Saw III yet, but the thought of a Pig Mulcher has me interested.  :D

I'd rather going into B&Q and look at a saw, but ill get it off axxo in a month

I can understand why ppl think the 2nd or 3rd one is not too special, or the plot is slightly flawed somewhere, but I dont know anyone who hasnt really enjoyed the 1st one, or anyone who guessed the ending...

an awesome idea for the film and the twists and turns are just emense and such a great touch in Saw I.... Saw III bit gory,blood & guts and not too much on the basic idea but reading the synopsis on Saw IV seems like they have gone back to basics and come out with a really amazing finish :)

saw 1 was really good and saw 2 was OK but it became boring in 3 and in saw 4 i hope it will follow the same format as before and better challenge for them to face if that happens it will be amazing

Well what can I say, usual SAW lunacy but still really enjoyed it, i mean who doesnt wanna have to see a rapist gouge out his own eyes! Plenty of blood and guts but also some good background detail explaining JIgsaw and his wife etc, also some sneaky moments involving old characters, such as Matthews, Addison, Rigg etc, oh, and prepare for SAW 5 guys!!

It was alright, the autopsy at the start was the sickest bit

It sounds to me that you are saying that it was the usual crap plot, character developments, etc, but had enough sadism to keep fans entertained... which is fine by me, I'm a gore-hungry sadist too!

By the way, one of the things I hated about Saw III was that they focused too much on Jigsaw rather than a face protagonist. Sometimes, if you know too much about the villain's background, thought process, family, etc, it takes the edge off them as a villian. They suddenly don't become quite so creepy or mysterious when you fully understand the reasons behind what they are doing. In Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal Lecter was a super character because he captured the audience from just 20 minutes of screen time - enough to win an Oscar! In later films they fecked that up by making him the centre of attention and trying to explain the character. Big boo boo. Sometimes less is more and leaving you guessing as to why they are such evil beings is a more effective method of character development.

Saw I is still the daddy in my eyes, but I'll be heading out to the cinema next week for more eye gouging in Saw IV.  ;applause;

perfectly surmised, if anything it was excessively convoluted, i know they have to make up for the fact that the main dude is dead and they tried to do that with an intricate storyline and twist at the end similar to that of the first one but it just doesn't work plus there arnt any cool new sick devices really to compensate, watchable but worst one yet! most of it superfluous, but as long as they're turning a profit they'll probably keep on churning them out. 

Is that annoying woman still in it? Amanda, I think her name was. She was a crap baddie.

No, dead as a dodo, 2 flashbacks only i think...

Well, that's worth an extra star already. She sucked big time.

I'm no Barry Norman, but let's give this a shot.

Saw Saw 4 last week after seeing Saw 2 and Saw 3 before I saw Saw 4... on the sea shore. The bottom line is that, well, it's more of the same really and doesn't really add anything to its predecessors. Whilst the first one had originality, tension, character development and a little mystery, this one continues the theme of the other sequels that 'more is more', when I really think 'less is more' in these situations.

In the right hands, rather than Beavis and Butthead, these films should have been one of the best collection of horror films ever made, but instead, we're arrived at a 4th installment which is almost a parody of the Saw film itself, and sometimes even manages to verge on comedy. A case example is the opening scene and the Braindead-esque (such an apt word) use of gore. Whilst you'll probably want to vomit into your popcorn on first showing, you'll be laughing about the ludicrousy of it all on the way home rather than having any unwanted nightmares.

It's clear to me that the writers have just been told by some big wig somewhere, "make lots of traps", and whilst this is entertaining for a while (I personally like the one where one is blind, the other unable to speak), it soon becomes rather tedious as the traps aren't particularly innovative anymore and there seems to be one around every corner. At least the victims of these devices are worthy this time though. Last time it was a depressed nurse and a poor fella unable to get over the death of his son (yes, great choice Jigsaw - punish them!), but now we're back to drug dealers, rapists, and so on, so at least there's a return of logic somewhere in the film.

What is probably the saving grace, and I'm not usually a great advocater of over-exposing the villain, are the Jigsaw flashbacks, which prove to be the most successful scenes, (1) because Tobin is the only good actor in the film and still manages to make the character interesting with that slight sense of 'he can flip at any given moment' and (2) it's the only time the film slows down, tries to add some depth to the narrative and actually avoid the nonsensical. The most intriguing thing about these scenes, is that it actually enables you to sympathise with the Jigsaw character, making him more likable than the other characters. That in itself is bizarre seeing that he is the antagonist and likes to send people to hell and back, but at least it's intriguing.

Whilst there are numerous other flaws with the film - the stupid camera effects that make the film hard to follow, too many protaganists, the failure to successfully intertwine the other films into the story, two new coppers that look the same, the illogical decisions of characters, the dreary, unoriginal settings - this showing is still an improvement on the third and possibly hovering around the standard of the second, mainly because, amid all its faults, it still has enough appeal, shock value and morality (making the guy try to see what he sees is the most fascinating part) to entertain for 90 minutes. However, I think this might be the end. The well set-up, but 'we don't care' revealing of the accomplice is clearly hinting at a Saw 5 to follow next Halloween, but by that time, I'm almost certain that viewers will finally turn away if the writers just churn out the same old tosh once again. If they kept the story simple, held back on the gore a little and focused on just a couple of key characters, then they'd be in with a shot, but somehow, I just can't see this happening.

I give it 3 stars. 1 for Tobin, 1 for at least making the effort to push this further than the usual dumb teen slasher, 0.5 for traps and 0.5 for baps. Hold on, there weren't any baps.. Okay, gonna have to give it 2.5. What I expected, can't complain.

SAW 5 out on friday!!!!   ;gobsmacked;    :o

awesome, tyty.

Cant wait. Apparently all the victims survive their traps this time? Will be interesting

I will go see it first here in Oz and let u all know what happens!!!

Er, no you will not!!

Well if its shit il let u know then i will save you the time and money!! Im sure you will thank me for it later!!

it being the 5th one you could say it's the worst film ever and everyones gonna want to see for themselfs anyway.

Could wait and rent on DVD!

Indeed, you could tell me its the sh*ttest film in the world and i'd still go. But everytime they bring a new one out 50% of me cant wait, 50% of thinks they should put it to bed because eventually it will become sh*t...

+1 Apparently theyre contracted to do Saw VI. Hopefully it'll be put to bed. They should learn from Hostel I think.

Yep they're doin a 6th, Hostel was tosh though, even the first one...

They passed the shit point a long time ago.

As tez as you think Hostel is, you cannot deny that the brunette in the first one was smoking hot! Even the girls in the second one are quite nice ;)

When you going then?

The first was ACE, the second ok, third alright and the fourth was dire!  Why oh why am I going to see 'Saw v'?

Boo!

I thought the first one was imaginative and thought provoking, but the next two were a bit treadmill like and no more thna ok. Reminds me of Friday the thirteenth parts 1 to 8 and just found out that part 9 comes out next year.  :o

 ;booder;

I just got back from Saw 5! Went to watch it in style in gold class, reclining seats, waiter service! Cinema only has 40 seats!!

I thought the film was good and wont mention any plot lines until you guys have have had a chance to view it for yourselves!!

They have gold class in some view cinemas, think manchester lowry is the nearest from here... £13.50 a ticket!

Yea cost summet like $34 here which is about same price.

Well worth going to see tho!

Ive just watched it at the Odean in Birmingham City Centre. £3.50 a ticket! A lot better than expected, and love the theme of the film and the traps.

Just got back now, didnt really answer much, it was more like an episode of Lost, more questions than answers!  Role on 6!

Just seen it in the Cinema next to the casino at Teesside. I was a little confused early on as two of the characters looked similar and lost track of which was which, but other than that was ok. Looks like this will run and run.
 8)

Agreed. I can't work out why I want to see Saw V either, but I do.

They all die :o

Ps, $9 for awesome seating in the "theatre" here.

Do they recline tho? Can you lay down?

YES! It put's English Cinemas to shame!

cinema de lux Bristol, first class seats obv. not the buisness class ones(standard) takes some beating.
though is prolly owned/franchised from same one you were in.

Yea the ones here do!

Gold Class has its own bar and resteraunt and is ideal for a full night out! Good for taking birds out too!!

not the old popcorn trick?

Thats the greatest!

ahem, works too

loving the small print

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Was actually fairly happy with Saw V. The first trap (The Pendulum) was pretty brutal to be fair. I liked the teamwork element also. Just ashame that they all couldn't co-operate, though that journalist was a dick. Jigsaw proves again that Leopards rarely change their spots. If the final two come out of that trap to continue living that would be a miracle.

As someone else has said, it seems to ask more questions than solve things. Personally I think this is going to lead into a cracking finale of Saw VI.

I have to laugh at the IMDB Board for some of the comments made on there. Some of them who reckon Hoffman will be tested by Jill Tuck and that Dr Gordon comes back for Saw VI. In saw IV, in the tape found at the autopsy, it says that Hoffman won't walk away untested. I wonder if this basically means, that the pursuit of him by Straum is his test. Rather than him being tested by another accomplice.

I reckon it will all come to an end, and they'll have respect for the series and leave it at #6. They were contracted to do up to Saw VI, and it cannot be dragged out any further than it has been.

Saw on C4 right now. Intriguing and almost unwatchably gory at the same time.

saw it today, pretty gooooot i thought.  enjoyed the flash back stuff and finding out more from the old stuff. 

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It was 'decent', flashbacks were intriguing and it should all wrap up nicely in number 6, no more please, even as a big fan.  I was a little disappointed with the ending, 'you wont believe how it ends' was the slogan on the trailer, well actually i can quite believe how it ended...

Couple of questions for 6, what was in the box Jill received?

and the 5 ppl put through the test where all involved in the sale and set-up of the house in SAW 2, remember the one filled with gas/needle pit etc etc, but how?  The guy, the younger one, how exactly did he 'kill' the 8 ppl, maybe i missed something?

Maybe he was the one who put the nerve gas in that made everybody bleed to death. Must admit I never picked up on that fact during the film.

I suspected it during the film, but it was confirmed when I read 'Nuts' yesterday and the tv guide was explaining SAW 2, saying '8 strangers are locked in a house'...

Went to see Saw V this weekend and was actually surprised at how much I enjoyed it.  There is no need for another because the ending gave Jigsaw anonymity - a parting gift from the original...

Imo...