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High Stakes Poker, $500,000 sit down, is now up.

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lol fun watch, some big lay downs there. Doyle really surprised at.

Man do I wish Benyamine had gone to the turn with his pocket fives. I do like how the amateur is going on a tear though, they should get Andy Beal into that game.

Esfandiaris reads have been amazing, shame its not been in any hands of his own.

Great to watch HSP is the best show on tv. Shame no Daniel though.

Would have been great if Benyamine could hav stayed in with pocket 5's would that have been the biggest pot ever?

yes definately over 1 mil pot.

Looks like its going to happen next episode Gold v Antonius - Is Gold going to be bluffing again Antonius making the call. Can't wait to see it.

Jamie Gold is a fud!

I wish i had his bank roll.

The more Gold goes on about 'being the greatest bluffer of all time' the less likely he is going to be able to bluff.

He might get a big hand paid off by Antonius though, might be a clever ploy  ;topofclass;

;iagree;
My thoughts exactly. We shall see.

hes going to get paid off by someone with monster roll.... when they believe he's bluffing.

antonius was playing fairly tight in the first show so i reckon he will have the goods.

I'd love to see them end a show with a big unfinished pot where you have to tune in next week to see its conclusion.

Chuff me that would be a good idea, like all in on a flush draw and just the river card to come.

Which makes me realise just how much I cant wait for Lost to come back on TV.

I don't think i'd be able to handle the suspense. ;kev; it would be worse than waiting for the next episode of 24.

table banter is class. 

'I'm going to make the biggest bluff ever'

'I'm going to make the smallest ever, and show, you will be so upset passing it will be so small'

wow


great stuff

now thats a solid table..so much money on it.........



i like the amateur,plays pretty well

Sorry I know it's Brunson but if you ain't gonna call Gold with hand you may as well stand up and leave now.

Hmmmm. Disagree. If you think you have the worst hand, folding is a good plan right? That way you train your instaincts and improve as a player. I agree its J. gold so lets just jam it in and see but thats not how mr.B got to the top of the game.

Brunson made the correct read, he was just unlucky he folded the better hand.

Gold was loving his hand and felt he had the winner, Brunson picked up on that and made the laydown.

Brunson made the correct read, he was just unlucky he folded the better hand.

Gold was loving his hand and felt he had the winner, Brunson picked up on that and made the laydown.
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Absolutely agree..

Totally agree with above, class laydown by Doyle.

He strongly felt Gold could only have had 1 of 3 hands. And 2 of those beat him. Its jus unfortunate he had the one hand he could beat. And he knows Golds  gona bet millions on the river. (well, thousands).

Really loved the episode, enjoyed antonios return, just get Negreanu involved in 3 weeks and itll be amazing.

I'm not convinced it can be termed a 'class laydown'. The simple fact is that Doyle put him on the wrong hand and missed out on the opportunity to double through for 1 mil. Gold could easily have a smaller flush there, and judging by the way the hand played out, I feel a smaller one than Doyle's is more likely.

If it were the other way around, I'm sure we'd all be lambasted Gold for folding the superior hand.

I think if Doyle had made the call though, that would have been world class based on the money involved.
I think Doyle figured if he was playing he was playing for a million bucks, he did'nt have that much invested compared to te stakes at that time and probably felt it was marginal. He had a read that Gold was strong it was was more likely he was behind than in front. So maybe you cant call it a 'class laydown' but still the right play based on the info he had.
I don't think we would have lambasted Gold.

The Doyle/Gold hand was probably the most interesting, when he passed I was like wtf did he really just do that.

 I can understand when he did that, as Gold must be the biggest tellbox i have ever seen. I mean im no genius when it comes to tells but he is giving so much away to experienced live pros with his incessant speech play. Gold was acting super strong and it is just a case of whether how smaller a range you could put him on, to be honest his whole range is probably made up of made flushes. So its just a case of how many beat you given Gold would be playing on 2 spades i don't like the laydown but its a tricky one.

Interesting table, there are some soft spots the Cirque du Soleil guy, Farha and Gold but also some real top class players in Brunson, Greenstein, Antonius and Estanfandari (who has impressed the most in HSP so far with a very solid NLHE cash game).

wtf?

with these deepstacks Farha's one of the most dangerous players in the world and most difficult to play against because of his hand range.

Farha's world class both cash and tournament but tilts hard and has been tilted this season by some sick beats including $250,000 pot AQ vs AQ, but from what i saw this episode he's making some pretty disciplined folds and is unaffected by whats happend in the series thus far.

Well maybe you know more than me Bolt, but from everything I have read and seen Farha is a complete donator in the big NLHE games. Now if we are talking omaha Sammy's consider to be world class.

Based on what we've seen on the High Stakes Poker highlights, he's a terrible Hold'em high limit cash game player.

Ive seen him play some great high stakes NLHE.

Farha's got the world class NLHE game imo but allows tilt, boredom and his propensity to gamble to overshadow his ability unlike players like gold who in the future may improve at the moment can only play at a certain level and does look quite soft.

If i was Antonius or greenstien with the stacks so deep i think Farha is the player i'd find it most difficult to play against because of his unreadable playing range and underlying world class ability you dont know what kind of Farha you're going to come up against, i know he's played some donkish poker so far in the series and if he'd insta called with the mug end of the straight on the river when the amature guy reraised although its a pretty standard pass i'd be inclined to agree that he was still tilting and therefore maybe one of the softer players but he insta folded, didnt seemed to disconcerted or indignant and went on to make some disciplined preflop folds which makes me think hes fresh and ready to play some world class deep stack poker.

The point about Farha i'm trying to make(badly  ::) ) is that IMO he gets to chose whether or not he wants to play world class poker when he wakes up in the morning or if he wants to allow other things to determine what game he plays whereas other very good players will only ever reach a certain level without having his ability that more often than not doesn't utilize because he likes a speil, but with these stacks and after seeing that 1st episode he'll be dangerous

Regarding the Doyle v Jamie Gold hand I thought it was rather interesting as well. Doyle read him for a super strong hand and was correct in that respect and I thought it was a very good laydown irrespective of the fact he was ahead in the hand.

I don't think Jamie Gold gets as much credit as he deserves, this whole series he has played very well in my opinion and is showing he can hang in there with the big boys. He has a lot of guts and will follow through on his reads despite lacking as much technical expertise as say the likes of Patrick Antonious and Antonio Esfandiari for example.

As for the rest, the Cirque de Soleil guy is loose and passive so will end up a loser i'm sure and everybody seems to know where they are with him. I think Farha will end up losing as he has played very poorly so far and his supposed bluffing power will be no match for the big guns imo although I agree that he could become the toughest of the lot to play against if he's on his game. Hopefully we will see Patrick and Antonio kick into gear on the next episode as they are the best 2 players at the table I think.

It's bad enough waiting for the next episode never mind a "cliffhanger"! Would love it if this was a 2 hour show as well, bring on the next episode!

I beg to differ regarding Gold there have been at least 4 occasions in this series where he has missed out on some very obv river value bets that given his image would have almost certainly got paid. I have almost been shouting at the screen "ffs bet you idiot", i think it has cost him about $50k.

For me, if you can't control tilt at the level you play, then it doesn't matter how skilled you are at the game, you're a poor player.

;iagree;
All these players are capable of great poker but the difference between very good and excellent often comes down to how you react to a beat.
Especially in Cash Games hence Brunson/Greenstein/Reese's long reigns in the Big Games.
I think Farha is very aggressive but a perfect opponent if you have position. Alot of the times watch Brunson, Greenstein their playing reasonably ABC poker then just using good reading ablity to pick the right spots. But are rarely out on a limb with a big bluff.
A few of the younger players seem to looking for the big TV play. Gold especially but cash is all about winning the $$. I think Antonius has the right game for longevity  in the cash games same as Greenstein & co.

"Totally agree with above, class laydown by Doyle."

WTF?.. I don't give a monkey's for Doyles rep.. this was an awful laydown. (a) Gold is a bluff ass (b) Have you seen the hands these guys play??..they make Gus look TAG.

If you ain't gonna go with this hand you may as well er... just go.

Out of interest if Jamie had the Js 9s, a hand he would play in the exact same way i would expect.

And Doyle folded the Ts 8s, would you be saying it was awful?

Of course I would.

I can't believe what I'm reading on this thread. It is an awful, awful play. It's not like it's going to cost him $2 mill next card as he can see what Gold's got in front of him.

Many posters seem to be rabbits caught in the 'Doyle is God' headlights.

*shakes head and walks off muttering*

I think awful play is a bit harsh.
He pretty much can expect he's playing for all whats in front of him on the next street, taking into account he thinks Golds got the hand.
I think Le Knave is right he would have played the  Js 9s exactly the same. It was Marginal not awful.