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So after winning the $10rb last night i jumped in a taxi and headed off to a party at my mates house. A few hours later and the party was going nowhere so i got my mates lappy down and fired up the $100rb on stars. Another guy was watching me who ive known for years, I wouldnt class him as a good mate but a mate all the same. I got Ko'd out of the tournament exited stars and went home to bed.

When i woke up this morning my account was on $0.02 my 1st impression was that id been hacked, however looking back in hindsight that would have been the best possible outcome. I got my last 100 hands on hand history emailed to see wtf had gone on.

After the $100rb there was a $5.00 sng  played and lost then a jump 8 minutes later to $25/50 lol. What was strange was that the villain was not dumping cash at all and was trying to win. Then one thing crossed my mind. My mate. He is 31 and has been convicted for fraud after he got a credit card maxed which he took out on his brothers name. He has owed me £150 for 5 months and before the party i was finished with him. The party host though is still friends with him and invited him to the party.

As soon as this thought crossed my mind i rung up the house and spoke to the villain. He admitted playing a $5 sng. And on my hand histories 8 minutes later he started playing $25/50 and then $10/20 when he lsot on $25/50 he was probably trying to make me some money on the account as he is perenially bust. hoping id spot him the profit in cash.

This guy is a total degenerate, who hasnt had a job for years and used to dress in a suit pretending to have a job, while spending afternoons in the bookies.
I feel so fkin stupid for not unclicking remember password, but have no recollection of me clicking it int he 1st place.

he rung back a few minutes ago and said that what must have happened was that he thought he was playing a sng LMAO, this proves his guilt and i immedieately said i was ringing the police. With his previous form this would mean a jail sentance if prosecuted. I know deep down that this is highly unlikely, as basically by me leaving the log in details on, grants him access??? 

I used the police too get him scared and he immediately said he would sort it. Curious on how a degenerate busto would sort out £3.5k english he said his mum would have to sort it. She has bailed him out many a time. He also said if i told anyone about this he would deny it to the police lol. I might just go down and find him now and kick the living shit out of him. But i doubt whether this will get my money back. This guy has a habbit of disappearing off the face of the earth when he owes £100. Nevermind £3.5k.

Ive told him that if i dont get comfirmation my his mother that a check will be written out in my name by theis afternoon i am ringing the police up. Does anybody know if they will be able to do anything?

What would everybody else do in this situation? im on the verge of murder

Sorry to hear that fella. 

Not sure where you stand, but I suspect that the T&Cs of the poker room will say that it's your duty to keep your account secure.

I'm sure you feel like beating the crap out of him, but that won't help you get your money back.   He's effectively stolen the money from you, but not sure what the police can do.  I'd speak to someone who knows the law and get advice.  I'd also speak to his mum and tell her that he's stolen £3.5K from you and unless you get it back, he's going to be in severe trouble.  Maybe that'll work?

Hope you get it sorted.

For the police to do anything you'd have to report the incident as theft and get him charged. However, that charge would be a bit messy to say the least. Your Pokerstars account is not a bank account and is probably not covered by banking regulations. Fraud could be a potential charge (in that he is pretending to be you) but again, it's not clear cut.

Playing devil's advocate here, if I was him I'd just say that you let me play on the account. I don't think there is any independent evidence which you have which proves otherwise. I don't think the police are going to be that interested as it's not cut and dry.

I think you can only threaten police/violence and hope that works - you are essentially bluffing (certainly with the police and actually hitting him won't get your money back).

Do what you can but be prepared to just chalk it up as a bad beat and move on. And be more careful with your logins.

I cant see it will hurt to make the police aware of it. At least they will tell you where you stand.

the chalk is in the right hand, but unfortunately there is a shotgun in the other lol. He has just seen my mate and admitted this to him. He has said his mum is going to write out a check of £3.5k to me and that he will pay back £200 per month. This would be a brilliant result. Once/if i get my money i will never speak/see this character again. If i dont get the money he is geting his kneecaps blown off and once the community knows, he will have any ounce of credability he has left taken away.

Oh and he tried to log into my mates BSQ and dtd account aswell.

Its going to be down to you for leaving your account accessible i reckon? I'm not trying to be funny but tell his mum? The guy's 31 not 16. Could you not have sorted it by telling him to get you the cash without going to the police? I feel sorry for his poor mother. Her son might not have any personal boundaries and IMO, she should be left out of it. Poor woman!!!!!!! I know you feel like killing the guy but that wont solve anything.  If one thing comes out of this, it should be that you and a few more of us here wont leave our accounts accessible to others in the future. Maybe you'll get your money back and maybe you wont? If the guy finds out you dont have a leg to stand on, he could walk away and shrug his shoulders.  What I dont like is that the poor womans christmas savings could be going down the drain because of her pratt of a son!!

good luck with it and dont get caught trying to convince him either......lol

did he start out having credibility?

His parents are quite wealthy but that is not the point. I too feel for her 100% thats why i have not made the decision to ring her up yet. Dunno if i will. Im waiting on news that a check will be written in my name by this afternoon. This is possibly one of the biggest bluffs i have made this year and it needs to get through.

lololol, i cant help laughing. the biggest bluff.......' im telling your mother, im telling your mother'  lmao....sorry, just trying to lighten the mood:)  Good luck with it. Its moving in the right direction and sounding like you will get the cash back:)

Nothing ever goes smoothly with this guy.

I feel sickened for you. Hope you get it back, good luck. x

PM for you action man..

thanks mate, much appreciated

It's bad for his Mum. It would be infinitely preferable for this low-life to stump-up himself. But sooner his Mum bear the loss than Action Man surely? She is to some extent responsible for her son's moral code after all.

I disagree. He's 31 and responsible for his own morals but if its the only way he's going to see his cash then so be it....... Action man should deffo not bear the cost as he's the victim in this.

I don't mean she should be held responsible for his actions - but if she raised him, then to some extent she has had a part in how he's 'turned out'. Im my opinion  :)

Firstly let me reiterate, I think this guy is scum and probably needs a good slap:

But hypothetically and for the sake of debate: Lets say he made a PROFIT of 1K, would you willingly give him the 1K if thats what he demanded or would you withold a percentage or all of it?

might be an idea to remove this whole thread

if things go violent in a pulp fiction type of manner

know wot im saying  guvnor?

i would have never spoken to him again and given the winnings to charity.

Fair point.

IMO it's probably down to his Mum always bailing him out that she gets turned to for help by the little shit.

It's not however her fauilt he's a little shit. I've had mates who had a great home life & great parents but they turned out to be dodgy users and left their parents distraught, I also know people from really bad famillies (scarilly so) who are the most reliable people you could meet.

Parents can only do so much.

I've been blessed with great parents, so nice that I'm still home a lot of weekends, my good points are theirs, my faults my own.

damn this sucks,  hope you get it sorted out.

neverends,you run so bad.

I would be with the shotgun rather than the chalk, feel for you mate, hope you get it sorted.

This is sick Rick.

I dont think giving him a kicking will  help get ur money back - not sure I could resist though tbh.

Hope u get it sorted m8

he runs so so bad.

unbelievable trigg. gl with getting it back.

You say the parents have a few bob...

It's not your problem if they've had to bail him out countless times before...if yoy can get the money off them, do so.

Going by your posts, doesn't sound as if he has any credibility anyway? One thing I would do if is get him to sign a short note confirming that he did this and that he will pay, you back in order to avoid him denying it at a later date. Good luck with getting the money back.

Any joy action man?

Pm for you action man...

PM sent

well i'd be careful cos, putting myself in his shoes, I'd contact the police and say that there was this guy threatening me for money claiming that i'd played on his poker account when in fact i was in a drunken stuper, he must have got wasted himself and lost shedloads of cash and is now looking for someone to blame!

this is a nightmare and a lesson to us all (though if anyone ever got into my accounts theyd probably feel sorry for me and transfer sum cash in lol)

seriously though rick good luck with this mate i hope somehow you get your money back

good luck

OK, checked this out for you.  You can indeed prosecute if you can prove it wasn't you who was logged in. This type of crime comes under the Computer Missuse Act.   

google that and have a read, if you do want to take it further and have anymore questions PM me.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

proving it is the problem

good luck!

for another 3.5k we could get this sorted  ;) ;nemesis;

This is so brudel m8, hope you get it all sorted.

Gl

Not been able to get in touch with him from 2:00pm onwards. However he has admitted it was him to two of my freinds when they rung him up this morning. He has also told them that he has spoken with his mum and she has agreed to write him out a check for £3100 and he will pay back £250 per month. I dont believe a word of this and if i don't hear something of it tommorow by the villian. I will seek legal action. Obviously when i seek legal action, i will have written the money off. However i need to see this guy punished for what he has done. Guess ill just have to redeposit on stars again and build up from there.

The bright side of this matter is the overwhelming support that i have recieved via p.m and on this thread. Its nice to know that there is a community that will endevour to help members with both trivial and serious matters. I hope i can be of the same help to someone in this future. Cheers guys

FFS Rick. What a B*****d. Sorry to hear this and hope you get it back mate.

Good news hopefully.

Villian just rung me up. Said he has spoken to his mum and she is pissed off but is going to write a check out. She has to move some funds about to make sure that the money comes out of the right account. "100% you will get it in a few days"  he is genuinely remorsful. Although what he did was terrible in his drunk and deluded mind he was trying to win me some money, and some for him self probably. I would be more pissed off if i caught him stealing £50 out of my wallet, that having said obv i can never trust him again.

Ugh!!!  Wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.  Just hope it all works out for you.

Parts of this post have done my head in. 

I dont beleive that Action Man can be blaming himself for leaving his account accessible in any way at all. 

Its like leaving your front door open and getting burgled, an insurance company may not pay out but it doesnt mean that a crime hasnt been committed.

This toe rag has robbed you, just the same as had he dipped your pocket, he is now in the process of robbing his mum to avoid the consequences of his actions, probably not the first time nor by the sound of it the last.

Dont forget it is not for you to prove anything, you make the accusation and the police investigate, thats the system, the fact that you made it easy for him to gain access is not relevant, only wether he had permission or not.

Hope you get paid out, but his mum is the one I really feel for.

But unfortunately in todays modern society you can't leave your front door open, its up to you to make sure that all your valuables are in safe keeping which means keeping them well locked away. I recently had a similar problem when i had my laptop stolen, normally i had the box ticked to remember password as no-one else has access to use it. Thankfully when i got laptop back my poker accounts remained untouched but i've now unticked all the remember password boxes so that if it happens again my accounts will be safe.

fingers crossed you get it sorted :)

Well it could cost 3.5 k to see Ricky hatton in Vegas so id say id give him the mother of all kickings and make sure that it goes the full distance ending with a knockout and all filmed for (youtube) p.s id wear a hoodie....

while i sympathise with your loss it pains me to say that with any personal data the onus is on the person in question to protect such data from third parties that may wish to defraud them in any way.

this may be done by setting master passwords, changing passwords, NOT saving passwords on sensitive programmes - DTD, stars etc.  if you cannot remember and retype this information to log into your account then there is little that can be done.  from a legal perspective it would be all to easy for the scumbag to merely say that you yourself lost the money and blamed it on him, this would hold up better if the data was accessed from your own personal computer, as again the onus is on yourself to protect your private data.

for the future i'd reccommend unchecking the "save password" box on all of your poker and banking related programmes and websites, as an aside, old statements from the bank, and documentation that can also be used to fraudulently use your name should be shredded or incinerated, not thrown in the trash.

privacy is a bugger to keep these days :(

GL with getting the funds back

o7

lmao

Meaning it is true or not? Me no comprehendez?
 :dontask:

I have followed this as well, and im interested as well..  :dontask:

its a different issue altogether. and not related to the original post.

 ;popcorn;

shove up    ;popcorn;

This is better than whats on TV at the moment  ;popcorn; ;popcorn;

Does that mean the author of removed post can post it as a new topic ? or does it mean its been deleted because it's lies ?

How can you say that when Tikay is on the telly talking about Sheffield?  ;  :D

Both could be lies?
Who removed the post? (wondered in case it was a joke)

You mean i've been so bored i have made 36 buns and a cake when i could of been watching TK ?  :'(

The thread started as a new post on 'past blonde bashes' was removed as it was a duplicate of the post on this thread and also in the wrong section. No mod removed the post from this thread though.

Which means claimer has presumably withdrawn his allegation. ;popcorn;

i thought claimer was action man.

Im confused.

Usually when posts are deleted u still get some sense of what has happened but there is nothing.

Anyone fill in the gaps for me by pm.....?

"claimer" is one of actionmans mates i believe, actionman used this account to posted the other day when round there on an internet poker thread.

Yeah but "the claimer" was actions name on tribecca the there was his mate called "theclaimer".
It's all odd anyway.

I'm owed the price of a box of popcorn.

Rick's mate's mum will write you a cheque....

so, this guy who i used to call my mate has promised all week that id get the cash by friday (today/lastnight) and i can't believe i believed it.Its like a slowroll. If he said theres no way i can get the money then we can discuss diferent options. Now i have a few difficult decisions to make, on how to prceed. the options are;


1) go to his house and kick the living shit out of him      [ ]  satisfaction        [ ] money back   

2) inform the police   [X] get him hopefull banged up            [ ]  get my money back

3) get some shady character to collect (33% juice, i.e id get 2k back and lose a grand to said shady character) 

4) give him more time to pay back   [X] let him talk more BS and think im a soft touch



the bad news about it is that since september ive been puttin half my winnings into a savings account for my new house fund and to get money out its 4 weeks notice (i set the rules) ive got like £500 in my bank and zip in my poker accounts, so not only has he stolen my cash, but stopped me from working as well. Im so pissed off its untrue. If i go to the police then its gonna be another £1k in solicitor fee's etc.. and id have to withdraw money from my savings which i vowed never to do, but it seems the only way now. Ive learnt a serious lesson in this situation. Always keep your personal details personal. I foolishly thought that i could be more blazee (sp) with my details since my freinds were all present, and although i can't legislate for what has happened i must take some of the blame. Im just glad i didnt have $30k plus in the account, as no doubt that would have evaporated aswell.

Ive been out in my local town tonight, where, as you can imagine, news spreads like grass cuttings, people offering to get the money back for £500 etc... or to beat villian up for £200 etc..... i feel if i take up these offers then i will be no better that my ex-freind himself, and two wrongs don't make a right.

Im really at sixes and sevens on how to proceed and any help would be truly appreciated.
                                                                                                                              rick

its "blasé"

but i must strongly advise you to take this to the police and run it through their channels, if there is a case that can be made the CPS will prosecute on your behalf with yourself as a possible witness - it is a criminal matter and not a civil matter


0 cost to you unless you somehow spunktastically lose the case because you were not telling the whole truth = court costs and a possible perjury//contempt

so make sure all your facts are straight and get to the police asap

Az

just beat him up yourself, he robbed you didn't he?

As for getting the money back he cant magic up money, if he hasn't got it he hasn't got it, if he's owed you a fifty for months your not gonna get this back, forget about.

as for getting the old bill involved thats up to you not really the thing I'd do but its definitely not going to get your money back, people i know who have been ordered to pay compensation for assaults etc just dont bother and just do the 28 days when the old bill finally catch up with you.

Do something though or people will be linning up at your door to rob you nevermind logging into your account when you're not there.

Also it's to do with you and him, wherever he says he's gonna get it from isn't really any of your concern, chasing up his old dear for it is low

i would write him a letter explaining  step by step everything he did ,then ask him  in the letter what he intends to do to settle debt,asking him to reply as soon as poss as you need to see some of the money soon before things get out of hand, he prob wont answer the letter but if he does he will be admitting guilt in writing,you could then go to solicitor with the letter asking advice on you next move,

does he really have or own nothing you can take from him?

I'm non violence myself but know a few who are not and in these situations they always applied gradual but constant pressure, and they always said that you never get it back until it gets violent (but i'm not advocating that at all).

 I was going to say that the selling it on at 33% vig was harsh but he did steal your money after all, if he knows the guy that you know just tell him that he has a month or thats what is going to happen, then at least you could pass it on with clearish consicence knowing you gave him the chance to sort it.

Unless you present real and clear responses to villain that are going to pressure him into making you his #1 priority you are not getting paid.

Either write the debt off now and forget about it or sell the debt to someone who will collect.

you could play this loudly outside his house at night.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKzymtAVBqg

 rotflmfao

here you go, some tips on how to go about getting your dough back.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IFh3XPYo6o

Rick

I was owed £2k by someone in Manchester not so long ago.

Best £200 I ever spent ;) - No hassle, no comeback.

Met answer - PM sent. 

Hello m8

The prioirty is obviously getting your cash back and a possible conviction not much more than a consolation.

If his parents have some cash then they will probably bail him out but thats their problem not yours. I would turn up on their doorstep, or wite to them and explain the situation asking if they will asssit him to settle the debt before the police are called. They may tell you to bugger off but got to be worth a try/

Good luck !

If it all goes pear shaped though and the police wont even do anything, there is no question i would arrange my own justice !!!

Remember, if you write or contact the police then you won't be able to knock him in or smash his windows, etc... I'd corner him 1-on-1 and threaten him with some really f*cked up sh*t. If his opinion of you is a respectable stand-up guy that can be mucked about then that would really put the sh*tter up him and you'd defo get your money back.

Any update Rick?

The people want to know !!!
(well, I do anyway !!)

I know he told me last week he has got some of the money back....