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Did anyone else watch this tonight?

Very interesting with respect to how the ordinary person perceives probability. This is the sort of programme which should be shown after Coronation Street.

i read about it and it sounded interesting til i saw it had Derren Brown in it... will watch it on repeat if you think its worth watching.

Its on the SKY+, the man is quality...

The sad thing about the programme is that this is exactly how many tipping services work.

The stupidity of the average punter, and his notions of probability are LOL funny

Pretty obvious from early on.........he demonstrated an old scam used to con punters.

I did notice that a) he was using the old school, obsolete, definition of a billion or b) he messed up his calculation.

That's kind of the point though.

I (and most people on here, except Glasgow Bandit) would have spotted what it was all about right from the off, but the vast majority of people would be suckered in.

yeah very old scam, they would advertise ther system saying there so confident you only pay them when you win, then divide the country into say 6 sections sending a different horse to each section from the same 6 horse race, telling you if you dont win they dont win so dont pay us just put a fiver on the seletion for them and when you win just send them there share, they must of made a lot of money .

I hope he didn't really film himself tossing a coin all day long?

exactly

I like his shows generally, how the hell does he do the photo trick with the pundits?.... that was class!

is it being repeated and if so when????

What you didnt see was that he filmed that scene 7000 times with 280000 different racing pundits, and they only showed you the one that worked out.

he 'directs' them to the only pictures of people with their initials by using trigger words in his instruction to them. Very clever stuff is NLP

Derren Brown doesn't use NLP - that's a bluff. He's much more of a straightforward magician than many people think.

He does use NLP, as do many traditional illusionists.

He uses suggestive techniques, which predate NLP (which only dates from the early 1970s).

He uses lots of different techniques.  Including plants (often a nice hyacinth).

a great deal of NLP is about suggestion.

He's obviously not using exclusively NLP in his stuff, but it's cert5ainly an element.
for example
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr-QtNE9k84
and
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=befugtgikMg&feature=related
are both using NLP techniques fairly heavily

Yes, Adam, you're right that there are NLP elements which he uses in his acts, but they're not used to achieve his tricks - they're part of the misdirection (the bluff) to distract you from what he's really doing, which are techniques which are not NLP and are classical magic.

Simply touching a woman's shoulder a couple of times won't get her to think yellow is red.

It will if yellow is in the sales.

Actually......although there is a bit more to it, yes it can.

sword, how powerful do you think the power of suggestion is? Are we all open to it and how many of us recognise it when it happens to us?

Hugely powerful. Tank has linked to a very good example on his 0 STTs thread. (The Zeppelin link)

We all influence each other all the time. We each receive, and act on, hundreds of suggestions every day. We usually don't notice consciously. Hyptotists don't really do anything that everyone else doesn't. They simply refine techniques that we all use on each other anyway and know how to amplify the skills.

Going to see him in Blackpool in April for the 3rd time, I think he's quite outstanding...

What I want to know is the final horse race when the woman wins £13k after thinking she has put on the losing horse?? does he simply bet her £4k on the favourite as an actual gamble(which lucky for her comes in) or does he put £4k on each horse and switch the tickets to give her the winning one??? If he did just gamble that £4k & it lost do you think he would have just said hard luck, or at least give her the £4k back??

Do you really think he would gamble? After going to all that effort proving a 100% system?

I thought it was a nice way to finish...leaving a bit of doubt in everyones minds.

He gave her the ticket before the race so he couldn't just give her the winning receipt.

But it wasnt a 100% system- not in the final race- if you watched it it only was 100% for 1 person not for all as he had basically assigned a horse to each participant- the only way he could have guaranteed a win in the final race would have been to bet all 6 horses so £4000 X 6 = £24000 to win £13k, hmmmm not a great system methinks but for the good of quality television I think he might have done this... or like I said just took the gamble on the favourite and if it did not win he woulda re-imbursed her

He took the ticket off her as the race ended and opened it up- he could easily have used a bit of misdirection to switch with a winning receipt-he also folded the receipt prior to giving it to her so she wouldnt have seen the pick on the ticket

you should of seen his face when the favourite rolled in he must of bet on all 4.

Thats why else I think he must have bet on all of the nags-imagine the one she thought had been bet won and he'd only bet on the favourite

Going to see him tonight, anyone been to this years tour?

i went to see him a couple of years ago when he played at the skegness embassy. his show is fantastic and the way he makes certain people believe what he wants them to think is quite amazing

New tour for 2008, the old 1 ran for 2 years, should be good hopefully...

I cant begin to explain last nights show, its absolutely mind boggling...

I went to see this last night too. It was brilliant. 

I have no idea how he does any of his tricks.

If any of you get the chance definetly go.

Read his book trick of the mind he tells you how a lot of stuff works. Still great to see live