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Title: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: MILTON on March 10, 2008, 08:48:38 PM
New on here so hi to everyone!
Not a big fan of forums (can bring out the worst in people) but I felt compelled to join so I could express my utter dismay at Sky Poker's 'The Club'!
They have completely misread what the poker community wants in a magazine show, news and reports on the UK scene with player profiles and the odd report from tourneys overseas. Not just a half hour promo for the channel and its comps! typical sky really (you only have to watch Sky Sports News............one long ad for whatever they are showing on their sport channels).
Poker week may not have been the greatest show on TV but it great for the UK pokerheads. Hope it comes back!


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Colchester Kev on March 10, 2008, 08:55:16 PM
TIKAY !!! only 1 account per person ... how many times do you need to be told !!!


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: celtic on March 10, 2008, 08:59:24 PM
or is it compo?


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: MILTON on March 10, 2008, 09:08:03 PM
Who are they then?



Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Colchester Kev on March 10, 2008, 09:09:29 PM
Who are they then?



Fine question, LOL ... welcome to blonde :D


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: MILTON on March 10, 2008, 09:14:11 PM
Thank you Mr Colchester!!


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: celtic on March 10, 2008, 09:31:07 PM
Who are they then?



sounds like a guilty question lol

welcome to blonde


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: boldie on March 10, 2008, 09:35:58 PM
Thank you Mr Colchester!!

WOW, even calling Kev "Mr"?..you must be new.


Welcome! (and you're right about the club)


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: MILTON on March 10, 2008, 09:41:28 PM
I reckon the people who make this shite (can i say shite?) probably think big brother and all those other reality shows are great viewing!!


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: celtic on March 10, 2008, 09:42:56 PM
can he say shite?


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: kenjude on March 10, 2008, 09:46:24 PM
They have completely misread what the poker community wants in a magazine show

Whatever makes you think the show was intended to deliver what the poker community wants?


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Chompy on March 10, 2008, 09:48:15 PM
Started off with promise, but yes, shite is a good word. Well played


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: kinboshi on March 10, 2008, 09:53:36 PM
can he say shite?

Think he did.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Acidmouse on March 10, 2008, 10:04:00 PM
I love it, another "how bad the club is" thread :)


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: celtic on March 10, 2008, 10:05:13 PM
Started off with promise, but yes, shite is a good word. Well played

evening chompy


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: boldie on March 10, 2008, 10:07:27 PM
can he say shite?

I don't know..he did but I can feel a ban coming on...He could have said  "ass goblins, ass kabobs, ass monkeys, black banana, blind eels, boulder, chocolate channel chewie, colon cannonballs, corn eyed butt snake, corn massacre, crapsters
creamy butt nuggets, digested Crayola box, Easter Bunny's present, the fourth teletubby, frightened turtle, hardened fudge nuggets, hell's candy, Indian rug burns, keester cakes, Mississippi mud, monglin cluster shit, mudfat balls, peanut butter poop, potty animals, product of Uranus, sea pickle, sewer serpents, shitsicles, space slug, Super Shit Man, tangy butt nuts, that ain't chocolate puddin'!, tom cruise missiles, toxic turdeys, turd tunnel tasty, yellow submarine, air out the anus, ass sneezing, bust a shit, christen the comfort station, cook some beans, clean one's colon, cut off a load, drop a chalupa, drop ass goblins, drop some friends off at the lake, empty the manure spreader, take a plane crash - no survivors,
talk to a man about a horse, blow mud, booty hole burnout, butt dribblets, butt drool, chocolate explosion, G.I. shits, human expresso machine, Montezuma's revenge, oohs and ahs, screaming mimis, supersonic sewer sauce, boggy crapper, toilet bowl stew, cattle cookies, chimp chunks, cow farts, dog logs, doggy sausage, elk duds, kagatzka, lawn sausage or anal impaction" but he chose to call The Club "shite"..and that is surely against the rules.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Indestructable on March 10, 2008, 10:12:29 PM
Without trying to be biased towards the Club having appeared on it, but will then go on to be biased  :D.
I think it depends on which show you watch, for example the recent show with Eddie Hearn was in my view a good interview and interesting about how some of the big tv poker tournies are pulled together and the future of the premier League etc. There are other shows where the guests are of no interest (who knows maybe even mine). I also think the show is just trying to be fun and think Dan and Matt pull this off (on the whole)
As for Poker 425/poker week the club isn't trying to compete with this type of show and wish it could be brought back, but guess this is all down to money.

PS welcome to the forum.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: MILTON on March 10, 2008, 10:25:28 PM
 I'm assuming that 'The Club' replaced 'Poker Week'  because of money?


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: action man on March 10, 2008, 10:27:53 PM
New on here so hi to everyone!
Not a big fan of forums (can bring out the worst in people) but I felt compelled to join so I could express my utter dismay at Sky (http://www.skypoker.com/poker/sky_lobby?aff=1062) Poker (http://www.skypoker.com/poker/sky_lobby?aff=1062)'s 'The Club'!
They have completely misread what the poker community wants in a magazine show, news and reports on the UK scene with player profiles and the odd report from tourneys overseas. Not just a half hour promo for the channel and its comps! typical sky really (you only have to watch Sky Sports News............one long ad for whatever they are showing on their sport channels).
Poker week may not have been the greatest show on TV but it great for the UK pokerheads. Hope it comes back!


vote with eyes


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: kinboshi on March 10, 2008, 10:29:33 PM
Without trying to be biased towards the Club having appeared on it, but will then go on to be biased  :D.

Damning evidence for the prosecution.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Dingdell on March 10, 2008, 10:33:09 PM
I'm assuming that 'The Club' replaced 'Poker Week'  because of money?

The two programme are wholy unconnected.

Poker week was sponsored/backed (as I understand it) independently each season by various organisations and produced independently. The Club is a Sky programme through and through - produced and transmitted by Sky.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: MILTON on March 10, 2008, 10:36:03 PM
Nothing to do with 'Sky Bet" then?


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: celtic on March 10, 2008, 10:37:03 PM
Without trying to be biased towards the Club having appeared on it, but will then go on to be biased  :D.
I think it depends on which show you watch, for example the recent show with Eddie Hearn was in my view a good interview and interesting about how some of the big tv poker tournies are pulled together and the future of the premier League etc. There are other shows where the guests are of no interest (who knows maybe even mine). I also think the show is just trying to be fun and think Dan and Matt pull this off (on the whole)
As for Poker 425/poker week the club isn't trying to compete with this type of show and wish it could be brought back, but guess this is all down to money.

PS welcome to the forum.

Ed,

it is dreadful.

watching dreadful players making dreadful plays. one bloke the other day flopped a royal flush and moved all in and got paid by 2nd pair ffs. Hardly good tv. as for for matt & dan, more  like dumb & dumber


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Dingdell on March 10, 2008, 10:39:09 PM
Nothing to do with 'Sky Bet" then?

I dont know what sky bet is I'm afraid. But I was answering your question about the club and poker week. As far as I am aware they have never been connected.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: totalise on March 10, 2008, 10:41:27 PM
what are these two programs? is poker week where tikay and compo sat in that dingy office talking about poker for 30 min?


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: celtic on March 10, 2008, 10:44:02 PM
or sometimes on the terrace with a pot of tea.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: MILTON on March 10, 2008, 10:44:22 PM
Sky bet sponsored the show so i would say they are very much linked


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Dingdell on March 10, 2008, 10:51:12 PM
Sky bet sponsored the show so i would say they are very much linked

Did they? Well it would have been only for that run. Poker Week has also been sponsored by companies such as William Hill if I remember correctly. It changes for each run of the programme depending on who wants to sponsor.

As far as I am aware the programme is still open to sponsorship from interested parties, the fact that they were at one time sponsored by Sky Bet is irrelevant to the future of the programme. Previous sponsorship for one run doesn't tie them to that company after that time.

Why is it so important?


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: MILTON on March 10, 2008, 10:56:35 PM
Well i don't see any other gaming site sponsorship on sky's channels..........i might be wrong about that, just haven't seen any, i believe Ch425 was owned by Will Hill


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: celtic on March 10, 2008, 10:58:35 PM
this man knows his stuff!!


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: AndrewT on March 10, 2008, 11:00:27 PM
Milton - are you saying there might be some sort of link between Sky Bet and Sky Poker?


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: kinboshi on March 10, 2008, 11:01:16 PM
Milton - are you saying there might be some sort of link between Sky Bet and Sky (http://www.skypoker.com/poker/sky_lobby?aff=1062) Poker (http://www.skypoker.com/poker/sky_lobby?aff=1062)?

;carlocitrone;


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: MILTON on March 10, 2008, 11:03:20 PM
are they not both under the same company?



Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Dingdell on March 10, 2008, 11:03:33 PM
this man knows his stuff!!

 ::)  Interesting that isn't it.....?

This really sounds like PM's question time, ask one question and then lead on to another.....the more important one.

Not sure what the agenda is behind this. However, Poker week and The Club are unrelated. End.  



Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: celtic on March 10, 2008, 11:05:33 PM
this man knows his stuff!!

 ::)  Interesting that isn't it.....?

This really sounds like PM's question time, ask one question and then lead on to another.....the more important one.

Not sure what the agenda is behind this. However, Poker week and The Club are unrelated. End.  Period ;whistle;




Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: MILTON on March 10, 2008, 11:06:02 PM
so you work for sky then? can you fix my dish!


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Dingdell on March 10, 2008, 11:08:33 PM
this man knows his stuff!!

 ::)  Interesting that isn't it.....?

This really sounds like PM's question time, ask one question and then lead on to another.....the more important one.

Not sure what the agenda is behind this. However, Poker week and The Club are unrelated. End.  Period ;whistle;



No - that would be ;tracet;  ;D


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: MILTON on March 10, 2008, 11:08:59 PM
Ok i own up........i am really secret squirrel with my sidekick morocco mole........ always looking to ask the question!!


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Dingdell on March 10, 2008, 11:09:55 PM
so you work for sky then? can you fix my dish!

No - but I know a man who does! Why don't you wait for Tikay to come on line and he can help you with the technicalities of how the sponsorship works. I'm sure he'll be on line later.   ;D


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: ifm on March 10, 2008, 11:21:55 PM
actually it's very difficult to defend the program but we really should continue to tip toe around the subject for tikay's sake (he actually thinks it's great you know).


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Dingdell on March 10, 2008, 11:24:34 PM
actually it's very difficult to defend the program but we really should continue to tip toe around the subject for tikay's sake (he actually thinks it's great you know).

LOL.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: MILTON on March 10, 2008, 11:32:18 PM
i'm assuming that only a gaming site would want to sponsor a poker show........................................but as i have said i have not seen any other gaming sponsorship on sky programming other then sky bet, but i don't watch sky all the time so i could be wrong.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: MILTON on March 10, 2008, 11:34:33 PM
in fact morocco mole and myself prefer to listen to desert island discs when we are not saving the world!


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: steeveg on March 11, 2008, 01:28:45 AM
i'm assuming that only a gaming site would want to sponsor a poker show........................................but as i have said i have not seen any other gaming sponsorship on sky programming other then sky bet, but i don't watch sky all the time so i could be wrong.
just wondering why a show on sky has to have a sponsor,if enough paying sky viewers want to watch a poker show,it is just a weekly show which is repeated daily, you would think sky would be able to afford it, lots of other stuff on , why does a poker show have to be sponsored ,


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Longy on March 11, 2008, 02:31:47 AM
i'm assuming that only a gaming site would want to sponsor a poker show........................................but as i have said i have not seen any other gaming sponsorship on sky programming other then sky bet, but i don't watch sky all the time so i could be wrong.

Stan James have certainly sponsored stuff on sky. The william hill grand prix was on sky, ladbrokes poker million, Full Tilt million dollar cash game etc.........

I agree the club really is quite poor, the only interest on it is the guests and thats a bit hit and miss.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: tikay on March 11, 2008, 04:48:04 AM

Interesting thread, I'll reply (to the sensible questions) later today, & I'll send it to the Sky Suits for their perusal.

In the Interim, we've asked the Original Poster not to open Duplicate Accounts for the purpose of deliberate obfuscation, & requested he closes one Account or the other.

I'll try & explain how the Sponsorship & Funding of Poker Shows such as Poker Week works, & the sort of money it costs.

Seperate to that - because two subjects are becoming mixed up, & they are quite different, I'll try & explain the purpose of "The Club", & what it sets out to achieve.

My comments will, of course, need to be read in the context that I have, & openly declare, a vested interest, & I have no desire to mislead. Or use a new, separate, Forum Alias for such purpose.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Indestructable on March 11, 2008, 05:01:37 AM
Name and shame?  :D


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Snatiramas on March 11, 2008, 09:23:19 AM
I will be honest I have never watched the club so I have no idea if it is any good or not, what I would say is that if you look at the number of novice players who play on the site then the sky poker channel is good news.
Some of these players are starting to graduate towards live play which I would think is pretty good news for the majority on this forum as it swells fields and presents good value whilst they find their feet in the live game.
As regards the standard of play who hasn't pushed all in to make it look like a bluff and induce a call. May the lord please bring both those players to a table near me in the not too distant future. Oh and whilst on the subject of iffy plays I did on Sunday night see two plays from a WSOP bracelet winner that I would consider far more horrendous. In one he calls a reraise for 2/3 of his chips on a queen high flop with Q9. The other player who is a well known big tight kind of player has AQ. 9 on the turn. Nuff said on that one. The second one calls for 80% of his chips with two overcards to an all in after the flop. Our man misses and cripples his own tournament.

From what I have seen of Sky they get it right more than they get it wrong. Maybe we are not the target market.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: ripple11 on March 11, 2008, 10:18:16 AM


Interesting thread, I'll reply (to the sensible questions) later today, & I'll send it to the Sky Suits for their perusal.

In the Interim, we've asked the Original Poster not to open Duplicate Accounts for the purpose of deliberate obfuscation, & requested he closes one Account or the other.

I'll try & explain how the Sponsorship & Funding of Poker Shows such as Poker Week works, & the sort of money it costs.

Seperate to that - because two subjects are becoming mixed up, & they are quite different, I'll try & explain the purpose of "The Club", & what it sets out to achieve.

My comments will, of course, need to be read in the context that I have, & openly declare, a vested interest, & I have no desire to mislead. Or use a new, separate, Forum Alias for such purpose.

Costs would be interesting Tikay. As I've said before .....I would like Sky to scrape "The Club" and put the money into producing/sponsoring, call it what you will, Poker Week. Just how much more would it cost to give the Poker playing community want they really really want??


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Miami Vic on March 11, 2008, 10:27:29 AM
Thanks to all those talking about our output.

This is the simple basicness of it all: Sky Bet owns Sky Poker. The channel was set up to be a shop window for our online and interactive poker and gaming services.

We are there to talk about skypoker.com and all it's tournaments. We operate within strict guidelines and, I think, proivde a channel packed with information and entertainment relating to the world of poker.

Our service is highly respected with awards and nominations for both the website and the channel in its first year of operation.

Regarding the slagging off of The Club, we have set this show up explicitly to act as a platform for the questions and suggestions of viewers. It therefore depends on viewer content to succeed. The Club is meant to link into a forum. We are waiting for thias forum to be launched. In the meantime, I think we have found a terrific double act in Matt and Dan and we are stepping up the amount of news and info from the poker world week by week.

We are also in the process of working on new formats: a two hour cash table competition and a late night, more analytical poker show that focuses on the game in a similar style to the excellent and much missed PNL.

That's much more official blather than I usually offer - but I hope it helps explain the situation a little bit and saves Tikay a bit of time to concentrate on his Pilates and Yoga. I hear he has gone all Tantric.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Snatiramas on March 11, 2008, 10:32:54 AM
I think it is more likely Tantrum than Tantric


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Eck on March 11, 2008, 10:34:19 AM
Congrats on the Emmy nomination btw  ;applause;


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: steeveg on March 11, 2008, 11:50:58 AM
Thanks to all those talking about our output.

This is the simple basicness of it all: Sky Bet owns Sky (http://www.skypoker.com/poker/sky_lobby?aff=1062) Poker (http://www.skypoker.com/poker/sky_lobby?aff=1062). The channel was set up to be a shop window for our online and interactive poker and gaming services.

We are there to talk about skypoker.com and all it's tournaments. We operate within strict guidelines and, I think, proivde a channel packed with information and entertainment relating to the world of poker.

Our service is highly respected with awards and nominations for both the website and the channel in its first year of operation.

Regarding the slagging off of The Club, we have set this show up explicitly to act as a platform for the questions and suggestions of viewers. It therefore depends on viewer content to succeed. The Club is meant to link into a forum. We are waiting for thias forum to be launched. In the meantime, I think we have found a terrific double act in Matt and Dan and we are stepping up the amount of news and info from the poker world week by week.

We are also in the process of working on new formats: a two hour cash table competition and a late night, more analytical poker show that focuses on the game in a similar style to the excellent and much missed PNL.

That's much more official blather than I usually offer - but I hope it helps explain the situation a little bit and saves Tikay a bit of time to concentrate on his Pilates and Yoga. I hear he has gone all Tantric.
i do think there is room for 2 shows myself, the club only needs to be 15 min to interview a guest imo. and the forum for sky players will be for mostly for beginners,which is fine, i know a lot may dissagree but i think a lot of great advice is given for beginners on the open every night,the standard has gone up ,yes there are some bad calls but people play for fun and want to learn,players can then move on to a higher level if they want to learn more by moving to blonde or buying advanced books,.a lot will move on for sure as nobody wants to be thought of as a beginner, this is why poker week is missed by most players, a show for the majority of poker  players in the uk who are well past the beginners stage who like to follow poker in the uk, no other show covered the uk poker scene better than poker week,


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: AlexMartin on March 11, 2008, 11:53:30 AM
can he say shite?

I don't know..he did but I can feel a ban coming on...He could have said  "ass goblins, ass kabobs, ass monkeys, black banana, blind eels, boulder, chocolate channel chewie, colon cannonballs, corn eyed butt snake, corn massacre, crapsters
creamy butt nuggets, digested Crayola box, Easter Bunny's present, the fourth teletubby, frightened turtle, hardened fudge nuggets, hell's candy, Indian rug burns, keester cakes, Mississippi mud, monglin cluster shit, mudfat balls, peanut butter poop, potty animals, product of Uranus, sea pickle, sewer serpents, shitsicles, space slug, Super Shit Man, tangy butt nuts, that ain't chocolate puddin'!, tom cruise missiles, toxic turdeys, turd tunnel tasty, yellow submarine, air out the anus, ass sneezing, bust a shit, christen the comfort station, cook some beans, clean one's colon, cut off a load, drop a chalupa, drop ass goblins, drop some friends off at the lake, empty the manure spreader, take a plane crash - no survivors,
talk to a man about a horse, blow mud, booty hole burnout, butt dribblets, butt drool, chocolate explosion, G.I. shits, human expresso machine, Montezuma's revenge, oohs and ahs, screaming mimis, supersonic sewer sauce, boggy crapper, toilet bowl stew, cattle cookies, chimp chunks, cow farts, dog logs, doggy sausage, elk duds, kagatzka, lawn sausage or anal impaction" but he chose to call The Club "shite"..and that is surely against the rules.


fuck me you got more time on your hands than me. Can i say fuck? Shite just did. Its an adult forum op, ur fine.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: RED-DOG on March 11, 2008, 12:02:46 PM
It's not an "Adults Only" forum though Alex.


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: boldie on March 11, 2008, 12:15:37 PM
It's not an "Adults Only" forum though Alex.

Which is a good thing or I'd be F'ed ;)


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: cia260895 on March 11, 2008, 12:23:58 PM
Personally i think the club does the right thing for the viewers who it is aimed,it is after all a light hearted programme, to which the viewers can get in touch with and possibly get their name mentioned on the telly (thats how ED got started),sure it maybe lacking in certain areas but surely just on entertainment value it seems to work,and Matt and Dan do seem to compliment each other well.

so i'd say if u enjoy it watch it if you dont,well dont...


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: Miami Vic on March 11, 2008, 02:44:08 PM
Re. Poker Week - sadly, despite everyone's best efforts, it didn't register enough viewers.

(We also had a constant stream of complaints from the hotels Tikay and Comp stayed in - throwing TVs out of windows, nailing furniture to the ceiling, etc.)

Poker Week was a great outlet for poker news but we are trying to bring some of those elements to The Club and The Open in the future. We're also going to change the format of The Club so that it's not just done from behind a desk.

And if you think we could improve the show, then do send an email...we genuinely want your feedback.

Vic from Miami


Title: Re: The blub...............sorry the club!
Post by: AndrewT on March 11, 2008, 04:07:00 PM
(We also had a constant stream of complaints from the hotels Tikay and Comp stayed in - throwing TVs out of windows, nailing furniture to the ceiling, etc.)

No matter what the hotel staff did, they just couldn't get rid of Tikay and Compo.