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When did he dwell up with AK???

Least it wasn't as bad as his call/fold with JJ :D

Still, alls well that ends well!

Was with 3 tables when that numpty kept open shoving for like 30BB with K hi etc, he dwelt with AK against his button shove! I was calling with A7+ in the SB!!

What were the blinds in the Orpe hand?

Not sure what the blinds were when Orpe called

What tournament was this?  :dontask:

AK isnt always an automatic call depending on stack sizes, and the stage of the tourney. If she had been able to jam I'm sure she would have done but to take the piss because of a dwell before a call is a bit harsh imo. Also lets be honest- the reports aren't always exactly accurate and it may have been raise, reraise and then decision to Michelle where she hasn't got anything invested in the pot, many people fold AK in that position.

lol someone shoves for less than 10BB early in a comp you telling me AK can sometimes be a fold?!?!?! Leave it out.

Celebs + Poker, gotta love it!

Think you're making a bit of a snap judgement here based on half the information

How many chips did she have? 

If the guy is pushing with any sort of random nonsense then AK is not that far in front. and if it is for half your chips (or more) then it does deserve a moment to at least think about it.

If the opponent is fairly tight then bizarrely I think it is a far easier call as he/she is far more likely to be holding Ace something.

without all the info I don't see how anyone can say this is good/bad play

Think you're making a bit of a snap judgement here based on half the information

How many chips did she have? 

If the guy is pushing with any sort of random nonsense then AK is not that far in front. and if it is for half your chips (or more) then it does deserve a moment to at least think about it.

If the opponent is fairly tight then bizarrely I think it is a far easier call as he/she is far more likely to be holding Ace something.

without all the info I don't see how anyone can say this is good/bad play

And the reason for this thread getting so many replys is Jealousy, input your chosen word.

And the reason for this thread getting so many replys is that it isnt, there was only 17 at the time of this post

seems like a slight over-exaggeration Ed - there haven't actually been that many posts on the thread.  Those posted initially were querying the situation re stack sizes/blinds, and the following posts were a discussion of how the hand was played, with views on both sides.  I'm sure no one on here would begrudge Michelle for grasping the bull with both horns and taking what she can get in the poker world - god knows most of us would jump at the opportunity, but I think your jealousy comment is misguided.

Here's hoping Michelle takes one down for the Brits!

Instadwell.

no way you even think of dwelling before mucking :D

absolutly correct Ed Debaes,

Charming girl carving out a living in the poker world, congratulations Michelle, people that have critisised or tried to take piss in this thread should yake a long hard look at their own game and you too may succeed.

and yes i cant spel.w/e

lolz jealous of what exactly?

Dunno really........she gets any guy she wants?  ;)

I'll bet Flushy could too!!!

Dunno really........she gets any guy she wants?  ;)

Aspades  Oh I so want to say something sarcastic but......being diplomatic..
Sky (http://www.skypoker.com/poker/sky_lobby?aff=1062) Poker (http://www.skypoker.com/poker/sky_lobby?aff=1062) is for entertainment purposes only .... Ed and the other "Experts" should be respected for their concise and in depth knowledge of porker.. so please don`t criticise them or their colourful and entertaining presenters....we love you all.

ariston has to have a sporting chance, he's been grafting his brains out  mentoring her.

I couldn't help but LOL...

Thewy thanked me for some chats we had when he did his in the well thing a few months back- how come nobody accused me of trying to pull him?

so did you get any? ;D

so did you get any? ;D

what happens in vegas stays in vegas ;)

we cant discuss a hand when it is just 2 lines of text from a live update. Nobody knows the full facts of the hand, stack sizes blinds etc. Nobody knows the table dynamics.

what they did know was that Michelle apparently dwelled for a while before calling someones allin with AK. This means she must be either slowrolling or dumb according to some posters on here but yeh you're right boldie people can say what they like on here. I agree with ed in the fact several on here seem to be jealous of anyone who picks up a sponsorship deal who they consider to be not as good as they are- maybe if they werent such **nts all the time they would have gotten a deal by now.

lolz she is sponsored as well!?!??!?!??

Russ i didn't realise you had such a super duper edge in a TV crapshoot that you can fold a like 60/70 edge for 1/2 your chips, there was me thinking you had to win loads of races in those things.

again you are showing a lack of knowledge for the full facts james. Everything isn't just black and white and there are grey areas. If I was to tell you there was a live in running market on the event and I had backed myself in from 7.6 into favourite for every ammount available it may make you think outside the box (when three handed I was trading at 1.8 ).

level 2 still 6 handed so yeh I dwelled so I could trade out. You really are clueless aren't you.

I traded out when three handed when I went odds on- the plan was to always get at least 3 handed by avoiding confrontation. If I had folded the AK I wouldve made it to the three handed stage a lot easier than I did.

level 2 still 6 handed so yeh I dwelled so I could trade out. You really are clueless aren't you.

I traded out when three handed when I went odds on- the plan was to always get at least 3 handed by avoiding confrontation. If I had folded the AK I wouldve made it to the three handed stage a lot easier than I did.

This is a silly thread. Michelle is pretty and that's all that matters imo.

AK is just ace high at the end of the day

This is why we get some stick sometimes for not laying big bets on poker markets.  In my opinion bets placed should not affect the actions of the players involved.

pls no....

Never mind Orpe ... I am impressed that Russ can make bets on himself in running in a tv studio ... did they show you on the phone to your bookie on the telly ??

I fold AK rgularly if the situation is right, nothing to do with bets.

I fold AK rgularly if the situation is right, nothing to do with bets. That was just one situation where flushy jumped in without knowing all the facts. There is nothing wrong with taking a few moments thought before deciding what to do with any hand. Its not like in a live game you have a timer running down and beeping at you to hurry up.

as for the suggestion I should be banned for laying myself off you are talking out your arse. I wouldve won a lot more if I hadnt lost heads up, all I did was lock in a nice profit in case I lost. I was the only one who had backed me before the heat and when I was CL 3 handed everyone else wanted to back me at much smaller odds- wouldve been foolish not to lay off.

I completely disagree with people laying themselves off. In the same way that I do that with horse trainers and jockeys laying off their horses..even if they did think at 16-1 he was too big and at 8-1 it's too short and they can make a tidy profit by laying off. I have no problem with people backing themselves to win but laying yourself off is always unacceptable in my opinion.

Boldie as I read Ariston's comments he laid himself off in running having previously backed himself to win the heat. I can understand your comments if he hadn't already backed himself but in this instance he hadn't done anything wrong apart from locking in a profit from his original wager.

So you would still fold a 13BB button jam to your AK BB on level 2 of a tournament?

You would still fold a 9BB open jam on level 6 of a tournament with AK?

This just happens to be a forum where people can say what they mean when discussing a hand, rather than being all nice and cooey wooey like the experts have to be when live on Skypoker.

yeah and I understand that he's locking up a tidy profit from backing himself, I am not calling him a cheat or anything..I just think people should not be allowed to bet against themselves on the exchanges.

Apprently not, i am not allowed to suggest that she is either clueless or a slowroller.....

yes you can ..people are only saying that she's not a slowroller...make of that what you will ;)

impossible to avoid as long as there are in running markets. What if for instance womble or someone had laid me off on their account? I didnt break any rules as I was clearly trying to still win the heat, locking up a few grands profit softened the blow of losing heads up thats all.

impossible to avoid as long as there are in running markets. What if for instance womble or someone had laid me off on their account? I didnt break any rules as I was clearly trying to still win the heat, locking up a few grands profit softened the blow of losing heads up thats all.

Debate is fine. Insults and the like isn't.

Please debate civilly.

Cheers.

I wasn't aware i had insulted anyone!

Anyway i think the point has been made and a far more interesting debate has sprung up in its place.

Also good to see Russ sticking up for another PRETTY bird with contacts :D Bet if it was a male player with no clout or a plug ugly recreational playing female he wouldn't have said a thing!!

I completely disagree with people laying themselves off. In the same way that I do that with horse trainers and jockeys laying off their horses..even if they did think at 16-1 he was too big and at 8-1 it's too short and they can make a tidy profit by laying off. I have no problem with people backing themselves to win but laying yourself off is always unacceptable in my opinion.

FYP

Let's say you were to play the WSOP main event and got to the final table with around half the chips in play. The final is three months away and Betfair open a market in which you're backable at around 2.5 and can lay at slightly bigger.
First place pays $10m, second pays $5m. Would you not be tempted to take out some insurance? I would, I'd lay myself at over the odds for as much as I could get in.

don't talk too much common sense on here- you will get slaughtered for it.
 

So I went out about 600th out of 2398 people. I played some great poker but tilted a bit after a bad beat at the end which took a lot of my chips. I went all in with 99 after a raise when I had 10 big blinds left. Should of waited, but was really pleased with the days play.
I just went out the $1500 event. I had KK and raised two limpers, one called the raise and the other went all in. I figured I was up against AK and all I would have to dodge was an ace so I called. The other limper called as well. The all in guy had TT and said he was squeezing and the other shortstack limper had QJ. I was well ahead but the TT man hit his T of course........GUTTED.  I was left short stacked and was all in with AJ on a board of AQ7. The other guy had AK and I went out :(

It's a nonsensical thread. Good luck.

Again point of thread was pokernews knowing Michelle worked for skypoker= pretty cool

However I am thrilled a read I started has reached a record for me (82 replies and counting!!!) Can we get to 100 pls???

Well I won't help up the reply count just for a silly game to get to 100, thats for sure.

Hang on a god damn minute ... I have been on telly, I have tits ... Oh ffs, i forgot to dye my hair scalp blonde

i don't understand. AK isn't the nuts? ???

Well I won't help up the reply count just for a silly game to get to 100, thats for sure.

Hello Gentleman

Firstly, I wouldn't worry about offending me, it can't be done. I'm completely un-offendable. I actually find it hilarious when people try and take the mick out of me and I'm always up for a bit of banter and I'm quite happy for it to get personal because usually people cant handle it back and that makes me laugh even more :) being a bit dopey works wonders for me because the hidden genius underneath is well hidden.....very well hidden, so well hidden that not even I can find it sometimes, but believe you me....it's there, and it comes out to play every now and then against certain stupid male poker players that forget to give me any credit. The other day someone made a comment that the only reason I got a poker sponsorship deal is because I'm blonde with breasts and on the tele...hahaha...you think?  Give the man a spot prize. I think if I was butch with a penis then I would definately not be sitting in Vegas right now playing poker through a sponsorship deal. Anyway yes I am blonde, I have breasts and I am on the tele. Luckily for me I have a good game as well. I'm no Phil (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) Hellmuth (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=708) but then not many of us on here are are we.

So the AK hand, I vaguely remember it but cant remember the stack sizes or blinds or anything. All I remember is I had him covered. You can't slow roll pre-flop if you ask me anyway. Even Aces get folded pre-flop by some people in some situations. You should always think for just a second, you may ave missed something. I thought slow rolling was when someone has the nuts and dwells before calling an all in anyway. I actually had ace high and was thinking whether I wanted to call an all-in pre flop with it. I thought for a few seconds and then I decided that this was a good idea.  I always think for a few seconds before I call any hand for a large portion of my chips unless I have the nuts or I have already made the decision before they act. AK against any pair is a race, this is for most my stack, I think for a bit and then I decide its worth the risk and call.....I dont get the problem.

So I went out about 600th out of 2398 people. I played some great poker but tilted a bit after a bad beat at the end which took a lot of my chips. I went all in with 99 after a raise when I had 10 big blinds left. Should of waited, but was really pleased with the days play.
I just went out the $1500 event. I had KK and raised two limpers, one called the raise and the other went all in. I figured I was up against AK and all I would have to dodge was an ace so I called. The other limper called as well. The all in guy had TT and said he was squeezing and the other shortstack limper had QJ. I was well ahead but the TT man hit his T of course........GUTTED.  I was left short stacked and was all in with AJ on a board of AQ7. The other guy had AK and I went out :(

Oh well, so they were my two bracelet events. I'm now going to play in a couple of the deepstacks at the Venetian and try make some mulah.

Wish me Luck

xx

i read a book said it def was, surprised you didnt catch that one

me neither

93

no reason for posting that, just a number that popped into my head, thought I'd share it

lets end it now

eek!!  Thread lock needed

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Any more, and the ban stick will have to be used.
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ok i'm scared now - not posting again

ok i'm scared now - not posting again

Final warning...  ;yellowcard;

ok - sorry

let's wait 'til George sees how many posts there are then all go back and delete our own posts so there's only like, 3 left

what are you not telling who? I want in

you are in - it was your idea :D

All the best in vegas Michelle but you can't get away with saying `I have a good game', `I played some great poker'. Then say stuff like you should have passed 99 with 10 bb's and `I called with kk because I thought he had ak'. The ak, kk and 99 all sound like insta insta/auto/easy peasy calls/shoves. If you have someone helping you with your game then they need to have a long chat with you about opponents ranges of hands and how hands like 99/ak/kk stack up against them.
Anyway, it's a bit rich having a pop when my one moment of fame on tv involved dwelling for ages pre flop with ak, and ..............slowrolling like a %$nt?, no....... I passed.

It's not like its the nuts so therefore its not slow rolling.

I gotta disagree with you there. The 99 was a bad shove with 10/12 BB's because there had been a raise and a re-raise. I was always going to be behind. It is arguable but it is not an instant call. Also, the KK was always a call I never said it wasn't. I was just telling you what I put him on and I put him on an AK which is why I was surprised when he turned over TT. The AK call pre-flop for most my stack wasn't an instant call either, if I'm up against any pair its a race. I chose to take that chance but having 10 seconds to make that decision is absolutely fine. I paid my money I think I'm allowed to think for 10 seconds before commiting most my stack with whatever hand I have. It's not like its the nuts so therefore its not slow rolling.

:)

Well now you've learnt how to play Chinese poker, you can learn how to play a Tighty SNG.  They are loosely based on poker, but not as you know it...

...and she bloody won! ;madasahatstand;

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