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Do you believe we are the only Race alive in the universe?

I'd assume Byron also believes in horses and fish and stuff

OK well let me expand, do you believe this is the only planet that has intelligent life?

Scotland doesnt have any  ;scarymoment;

i dunno mate, do you?

this ain't some nutjob is it, you have to be pretty intelligent to become an astronaut

Aliens have destroyed the link...

only for the non-believers ;)

GIT!!

FYP

he is right though otherwise we would of built a bigger wall

We ( Scottish people ) did not build the wall (Hadrian), it was bult by Roman leigonaires, it took them almost 6 years. 

When completed it was 80 Roman Miles long stretching from Wallsend on the river Tyne in the east to Bowness-on-Solway in the west.

from tightypedia

Can't expect Iron to know that, he's Scottish FFS!

Not a chance!  Its like some bible bashers think there were no dinasarus!  The truth is out there....

To be honest, I'm with them on the Dinasarus thing.

It's a huge universe but there are so many factors that were critical to Earth being able to support life that there's a good chance that we are the only ones.

anyone ever read  chariots of the gods, a lot of the mystery's in the book have been solved, but he did say something which has made me keep an open mind to life on other planets, there are trillions of planets, according to experts half of the systems can support life,to give an idea of how big the universe is ,he says there are more planets in the universe than grains of sand on earth,he thinks,maybe we look at this the wrong way, why are we so special , is it rather arrogant to believe we are the only life in the universe

i think the astronaut has decided to create his own pension ... the "alien believers" pay silly money to get people like him to speak at seminars etc etc ... fair play to him... money for old rope.

That just about sums up my thoughts on the subject. I think it's a little foolish to believe there is nothing else out there.

 :goodpost: ;iagree;

Some people say god was a creation of mans insecurity on earth and I tend to go with this!  We are tricked into believing so many things, but we cant seem to open our eryes to the facts!!  With so many planets out there I think we would be pretty daft to think there isnt other life out there!  I think we are an inteligent race, but only a small minotiry want to open their eyes.  

sorry, but LOLOLOL.

expand.....

i think they do exist, somewhere...

But god never did.

discuss

sorry, its unfair of me...I apologise. (just the no spellcecking by intelligent life)

Yes, there is life out there, but there are infinitely more planets than there are grains of sand in the Sahara desert.

Imagine there was life on two or three of those grains of sand, what would be the chances of them ever finding each other?

LOL.  No worries!  I cant spell v well in English!  Will get the old spell check on the go in th future.... 

pretty damn remote!

That doesn't mean that we shouldn't look for it though (not implying that you think we shouldn't, or should!)

Get Pokerstars to look for it. They're masters of making ridic high odds look standard.

Dont think we need to looking if the government actually gave details of certain things that have happened that they have covered up..... Dont want to create mass panic I suppose....  Might take our eye off the ball in making them all their cash!

Also what are the chances of 2 grains of sand being exactly the same? To support life a planet needs to more or less exactly the same as Earth.

It's not just a case of having 2 planets the same size. The whole solar system has to have the right components to make the correct ecosystem for producing life.

Firstly you need the right type of star in the middle of it, in our case the Sun. You then need a planet to be exactly the right distance from it to maintain the right temperature. You need that planet to just happen to spinning at the right speed to not suck everyone in to the ground or let them float away.

You also need supporting planets. In our case we have Jupiter which has such a massive gravitational pull it sucks away all the nasty space debris that would otherwise smash in to us and turn us all in to kebabs.

There's loads more things that are essential. There's probably plenty of planets that have some of the factors but chances are they all have at least one missing and that means they can't support life.

I know there are a lot of planets out there and statistically there's a good chance that life exists but the chances of us finding it or it finding us are so remote that it's just not going to happen.

If you pick one grain of sand from the Sahara and examine it under a microscope how long do you think it would take to find an exact match? I think you'd be a while.

Sorry I'm just a sceptic  ;D

just interested to know - have you seen these details first hand?

my office was involved in an investigation several years ago involving the MoD's refusal to release under access to official information certain files relating to UFO sightings to a party that was interested in seeing them.

Such investigations obviously involve us looking at the information that has been denied to decide whether there was a basis for withholding it.  We, like the MoD, are bound by the official secrets act and can't share information about what we see in the course of our work.  

I remember those involved in the investigation were quite excited to receive the files to find out what was in them.  I don't think I'm breaching the act by saying that there was nothing juicy, and the refusal to release the information (because it wasn't of public interest IIRC) just made the conspiracy theorists certain that there was something to hide.

proof imo

(http://www.geocities.com/aerialdragon/alf2.jpg)

There was an alleged UFO in my village back in 1974, and there was a documentary about it on Channel 5 3 weeks ago...


 http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2008/07/02/man-breaks-silence-over-north-wales-ufo-55578-21212424/

Looks like I was wrong.

I'd forgotten about ALF.

That's such a human-centric way of thinking and is associated with the Abrahamic religion's viewpoint that the world (and everything else) was created for mankind.  This we know is utter nonsense, as the universe is over 12 billion years old and we've (humans) only been here for a fraction of that.

If there's a nuclear war on earth involving every nuclear weapon (or some other catastrophic event for human life on earth such as a pandemic, climate change, asteroid collision, etc.), we'd be able to create a world that wouldn't sustain human life.  Life on earth would continue though.  The most successful life-form, bacteria, would continue to flourish.  Other species would evolve and after many millions of years who's to say that another sentient species won't come about?


Correct.  But it doesn't have to be the same as earth.


Correct.  In the case of the earth, the heat produced from the core has also been an essential element in creating conditions for life to exist here.


That's actually nonsense.  We have been struck by 'debris' - and it will happen again.  The probability of a large asteroid hitting the earth is almost 1.


Correct.


The chance that you (any of us that is) were born is statistically improbable.  Yet here you are...


If I have 14 billion years (and more), I'm sure I'd manage it.


I haven't actually gone through from the original link - so I don't know if you're skeptical about that or the fact that there is probably life on other planets somewhere in the universe.

I'll have to find the article, but the existence of life elsewhere in the universe is a statistical probability. 

Not first hand.  I grew up in the same village as Chiprince so its the same story as that.  Was on channel 5 a few weeks ago with a documentary...

Details have been kept secret and wont be realeased for 25 years or something.  I agree with the conspiricy theory thing, some (or most) of the stories of sightings can be explained but not all.  I just think that this plannet has taken hundreds of billion of years to get to how it is today.  If there are as many stars in the sky as there are grains of sand on earth, surly there must be life out there....

Although I've stated that I think there is life on other planets in the universe, I certainly don't think we've been visited by intelligent extra-terrestrial life.

If we had, we'd know about it.  A trip to the nearest star and back would take at least 8 years, and to the centre of the galaxy, about a hundred thousand years. I'm sure if some aliens bothered to travel that distance they'd make their presence known, and they wouldn't have bothered making the journey without planning a longer vacation here.

What takes us 100 thousand years may take them a day?

That's not what it would take us, that's the constraints of the speed of light.  If they could travel quicker than that they'd be able to go back in time, and so they'd be here already.

Haven't you been to Blackpool recently?   ::)

Valid point.  I did feel as though I'd gone back in time a good decade or so.

15 years ago there was no evidence of any other planets outside the solar system. Now over 300 have been discovered.

How many star systems are there in the universe?

Well, estimates at the number of galaxies out there are anything from 80-125 billion.
Each galaxy has between 10 million to a trillion stars in it.
Thats a f*** of a lot of stars.

If I were a gambling man, I'd lump on there being life out there and I'd also have a hefy punt on there being life that is more advanced than us.

I hadn't clicked the link, but, IIRC, it's the same case.....:D  Can't find the report, so might be my memory playing tricks on me.

found it.  My mistake, it was a different case.  http://www.ombudsman.org.uk/improving_services/selected_cases/AOI/aoi0210/aoi2902.html

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Don't know if we have had visitors, don't really care. However, us earthlings as a whole, tend to be right up our own arses thinking that there could not possibly be another race out there as clever as ourselves.

If we did have "visitors" then I'd imagine there would be the potential for cover up to save the powers - that - be looking stupid. Think about it, with all our "cleverness" we couldn't find them but they found us.

I don't really go for that evolution bollox either. It tends to work on the principal that we evolve in order that we may survive, if we are evolved from Monkeys, why the f@@k are there still monkeys?

Geo.

where do you think the first humans came from then?

I don't know, don't eally care tbh. I'm not as clever as all those who have an opinion as to how we evolved and even they can't agree. So I just get on with life and if anything happens that I can physically see to make me wonder otherwise, then I may rethink.........but till then I've got more important things to worry about.

Geo

we didnt evolve from monkeys

both monkeys and humans evolved seperately from the same ancestor


but i do believe the pryamids in both south america and eygpt are markers for aliens

they are too are apart and too similiar to have been built without a conection

and humans in theat time period were not devolped enough to beable to design and build such constructions

also aliens could all fit into stories of the relegious books

I also tend to fear that if we did find other forms of life elsewhere, chances are we'd be so afraid that they were better than us and posed a threat we'd want to obliterate them without first seeing if we could actually get along together. Christ, we do it on our own planet when some countries don't conform to what we consider the norm.

geo

I used to read a lot of ufo books and stuff when I was a teenager, and one thing that I do remember thinking had a lot of potential validity was the theory that Jesus Christ was a visitor from another planet.  If indeed he did perform all the reported miracles, there's some explanation there, and it would tie in with the wandering star heralding his arrival, and the ascension when he left the earth.  Slightly less far fetched in my eyes than him being the son of god.

well if god was an alien too then jesus could be his son

How much did i stake you again?!

This thread is turning into the twilight zone.

Same, Eric Von Danekin (sp?) wrote some good stuff.

That made me lol.

FFS Give me my £75 back!!!!

Pryamids? I might up it to 2%. He's priceless  ;boltpp;

yep, I meant 'god' as in the superwhateverheissupposedto be that created the universe and everything in it.

think about it

no-one in mexico had been to eygpt or the reverse yet they both build pryamids

also it took england how long to build wembley

yet they built the pryamids without the help of the polish builders

Fish - hence why poker is so popular (obv).

anyone with half a brain knows we didn't come from monkeys

Great point Kev but that doesn't mean he's wrong.

When you consider the number of solar systems in the entire universe the odds of earth having the only inteligent life must be astronomical.

Love the certainty of Kin's Magnus Magnusson like 'Correct' ing to Evils  post

Ironside's on the right track

POTM  ;tightend;

I recall reading a short story many years ago that stuck in my mind.

A highly intellegent lifeform targets earth as its new home as it was no longer safe on their planet and invade us by the millions.

They set up camp and plan the attack which will be swift and deadly.

They have their assigned targets and plan to move into place at dawn.

Meanwhile a farmers daughter is sleepily making her way towards the cow shed to do the milking, she stops.. then goes back into the house.

She returns with an insect spray saying *pesky ants" and kills them all.

The story was obviously much better than my version but it did make me think.

           

Sounds like one of the stories from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy

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Correct.  In the case of the earth, the heat produced from the core has also been an essential element in creating conditions for life to exist here.

Another important factor is plate techtonics, for a planet to be able to support living elements it has to have a floating mantel like the Earth has or it would be a dead planet.


That's actually nonsense.  We have been struck by 'debris' - and it will happen again.  The probability of a large asteroid hitting the earth is almost 1.

Yes and it was the astoroids that brought  additional elements that were needed to create life, but without the gas giants attracting so much of the rubbish we would be hit alot more often and it's the gravity of the gas giants that keep the asteriod belt in check.

Having said that a normal solar system will always be created in the same order with the planets consisting of heavy metals nearer to its centre (sun), then the medium weights and finally the lighter gas giants.

That might not be true.

I'm certain I saw a programme about traces of tobacco & cocaine being found in the wrappings of mummies in Egypt - as tobacco & coca plants only grew in South America......


Google - http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/Misc/mummies.htm (http://www.druglibrary.org/Schaffer/Misc/mummies.htm)

If the pyramid's are markers for aliens then why isn't there a pyramid by Butlins?

Butlins is ace.

You misunderstand evolution.

Evolution has no predetermined purpose, there isn't a 'goal'.  Evolution occurs thousands of generations, and random mutations make individuals within populations better suited to the environment they're in.  The ones better suited will flourish, and their offspring will thrive.  Those less suited will see their numbers drop over time, maybe even die out completely.

Bacteria are the most successful life-form on the planet, they don't need to 'evolve' into more complex organisms to survive to thrive. 

I'd suggest you read up on evolution, here's a starter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

I'd recommend 'The Selfish Gene' by Richard Dawkins as well for a more in-depth introduction to how evolution actually works.

As for us coming from monkeys, we don't.  We're actually apes, and so share a common ancestor with monkeys - but we didn't evolve from monkeys.

Oh, and next question is why are there other apes and why didn't they all evolve into humans and the other species die out?  Well, if you remove humans, there are estimated to be 350,000 apes left in the world.  Most are endangered species, and the 6,600,000,000 humans have been more successful (for the time-being at least) over the past several hundred thousand years than the other apes.  Why?  Because as a species we're able to adapt better to the conditions of our environment - survival of the fittest so to speak.  Now where have I heard that before...?

I would LOVE for you to tell everybody at the FT of the WSOP-E that...it would eb the funniest thing in the history of poker telly.

true, it would be funy but it would only be the second funniest thing ever. the first was demonstrated to me by kinboshi. ironstein is sitting next to helmuth nudging him with his elbow...

-oi, phil
-what?
-knock knock
-err, who's there?
-brenda
-brenda who?
...

that will be told IF i make the final

ANY table would be a classic with that scenario.

I think it is unlikely we have been visited by other life forms.  If they exist they are just too far away.  We have been listening for transmissions for years with no success.  

We might have been visted by an unmanned (unaliened?) spacecraft from an extinct civilisation.  Eventually when our sun begins to die we might send out these ourselves if we find that the technology require to travel through space to colonise other worlds is beyond us.

Thanks for the lesson "O great one"

I don't think I have mis-understood at all as highlighted here, if you where so fucking clever you will see that my point was that I didn't believe all that nonesense.

Any reason why you seem to have taken on the mantle of headmaster on this forum, and why we should all agree with your (IMO rather long winded) opinions on evolution, religion and the likes??

Geo

Geo, are you on your monthly's m8?

Easy fella.  If you disagree with me, that's perfectly fine - I don't understand the personal attack though.  I didn't mention religion in that post - merely explaining a scientific fact.

Sorry for having a different opinion to you.  I'd be interested to hear your alternative theories for how life has 'evolved' on earth.

It's pretty simple mate, I don't have any theories on it but do get annoyed at others trying to convince me that their theory is the correct one. My reference to religion relates to other threads.

References to books etc are merely pointing me to one persons "theory" for any theory there are always others who disagree.

TBH it was the headmaster - like tone of your post that tilted me more than anything. I refer you to Nirvana's post earlier in the thread regards a previous post you made.

Geo

Had a late night and still had to be in work early today. Played the OP charity game and the Circus £30dc straight after.Finalled both but finished 4th & 5th respectively

A good days poker for what some may consider not a great return (£300 after buy ins) for about 15 hours straight playing.

FWIW Dan,

I still think you're a top bloke.

Geo

I believe in a lot of things.

A Birth Certificate shows that we were born,
> >A Death Certificate shows that we died,
> >Pictures show that we lived!
> >
> >Have a seat . . . Relax . . . And read this slowly.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That just because two people argue,
> >it doesn't mean they don't love each other.
> >And just because they don't argue,
> >it doesn't mean they do love each other.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That we don't have to change friends
> > if we understand that friends change.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That no matter how good a friend is,
> > they're going to hurt you every once in a while
> >and you must forgive them for that.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That true friendship continues to grow,
> >even over the longest distance.
> >Same goes for true love.
> >
> >I Believe....
> >That you can do something in an instant
> >that will give you heartache for life.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That it's taking me a long time
> >to become the person I want to be.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That you should always leave loved ones
> >with loving words. It may be the last time you see them.
> >
> >I Believe....
> >That you can keep going long after you think you can't.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That we are responsible for what we do,
> >no matter how we feel.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That either you control your attitude or it controls you.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That heroes are the people who do what has to be done
> >when it needs to be done, regardless of the consequences.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That money is a lousy way of keeping score.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That sometimes the people you expect
> >to kick you when you're down,
> >will be the ones to help you get back up.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That sometimes when I'm angry
> >I have the right to be angry,
> >but that doesn't give me the right to be cruel.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That maturity has more to do
> >with what types of experiences you've had
> >and what you've learned from them
> >and less to do with how many birthdays you've celebrated.
> >
> > I Believe...
> >That it isn't always enough, to be forgiven by others.
> >sometimes, you have to learn to forgive yourself.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That no matter how bad your heart is broken
> >the world doesn't stop for your grief.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That our background and circumstances
> >may have influenced who we are,
> >but, we are responsible for who we become.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That you shouldn't be so eager
> >to find out a secret.
> >It could change your life Forever.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >Two people can look at
> >the exact same thing
> >and see something totally different.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That your life can be changed
> >in a matter of seconds
> >by people who don't even know you.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That even when you think
> >you have no more to give,
> >when a friend cries out to you -
> >you will find the strength to help.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That credentials on the wall
> >do not make you a decent human being.
> >
> >I Believe...
> >That the people you care about most
> >in life are taken from you too soon.
> >
> >
> >I Believe...
> >The happiest of people
> >don't necessarily have the best of everything;
> >they just make the most of everything

Thanks Maureen.......noted. xx


geo

 :o

I didn't mean to come over 'all headmaster'-like.

It's not a belief system, or a 'theory' in the day-to-day meaning of the word.  The theory of gravity, theory of relativity and the theory of evolution are scientifically 'proven' by evidence.  They're not based on belief, they're...FACT (for want of a better word).

I don't understand what there's not to 'believe'.  I don't know of any biologists who don't agree with the theory of evolution.  Aren't they the best people to understand what is true or not?

poppycock   ;ifm;

Indeed, next thing you know he'll be telling us that the universe does not revolve around the Earth!

FYP

I think Geo has been abducted by aliens...

Not again, are they fixing him this time??

Joke Geo don't hurt me..

the sun had a double page spread on aliens today with lots of polls they'd conducted. I can't tell you most of them 'cos I was just reading the paper in the cafe but I did take note of one.

13% of people believe pyramids are proof of alien existence

8% think stonehenge is proof, 16% cropcircles and a massive, and to my mind very scary, 18% believe that the fact there is ice on mars is proof of alien existence.

 :dontask: :dontask: :dontask:

lolz @ Geo exploding on Kin.

Geo 2+2 = 4 please don't hate me for it!!

  its not kin its o gret one if you dont mind ty

Less of your cheek Phillipson! 

  sorry o great one

Yep guys, you're quite right, I was out of order and for that I apologise.

I as well as anyone know that Kin merely attempts to educate with his posts. Just caught me at a bad time.

Apologies Kin and no malice kept within.

Geo

No probs fella.  We'll have a beer at the bash and laugh about it.

:)up

The rest of us dont have to wait, we have all pissed ourselves laughing about kin the Headmaster getting a bitch slapping from Geo :D

FYP