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Title: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: FuglyBaz on August 21, 2008, 05:46:20 PM
Went to the Birmingham Rileys in City Centre, to enter £10 freezeout. Could not believe it when I was told it was £13, with £3 for a 'facility charge'.

Like 888 and Pacific, they are complete jokes and haven't got the foggiest in how to run tournaments. The 'trained' tourney director didn't have a clue. 8 players on one table and 4 on another. Certainly won't play in another Rileys game again.

Anyone else had any similar experiences?


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on August 21, 2008, 05:47:15 PM
[  ] Suprised at this


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: Grier78 on August 21, 2008, 06:04:58 PM
They also charge you to play Snooker even if there is no money at stake on the game, thats infinate juice!


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: fergus8 on August 21, 2008, 06:08:03 PM
may be a 3 pound flat fee, no matter the tourny cost


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: thetank on August 21, 2008, 06:35:20 PM
may be a 3 pound flat fee, no matter the tourny cost

Pity they don't have the relevant licencing to do a £200 fo  8)


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: tonge on August 21, 2008, 06:55:54 PM
It is a flat fee regardless of the entrance, legally they can only play for a maximum of £10 a person. 

This means though that in for example where they regularly get 50 punters its £3 facility charge to play for £5 per person.  The charge wasn't supposed to have gone up until the 25th of August though.


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: kinboshi on August 21, 2008, 07:00:01 PM
Do you get dealers for that £3?


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: StuartHopkin on August 21, 2008, 08:20:04 PM
Do you get dealers for that £3?

dealer dealt and a full complementary buffet kin, dont know what they are moaning about!


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: pokerfan on August 21, 2008, 09:15:07 PM
do Rileys have a membership fee?


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: StuartHopkin on August 21, 2008, 09:29:34 PM
fiver a year in nottingham


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: thetank on August 21, 2008, 09:42:48 PM
Do you get dealers for that £3?

dealer dealt and a full complementary buffet kin, dont know what they are moaning about!

Fair point, it's just a bit of fun.

I'd be a bit pissed off at the 4 players, 8 players table distribution that OP tallked about though.


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: Grier78 on August 21, 2008, 10:05:32 PM
The games are very soft though which makes up for everything else.


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: Longy on August 21, 2008, 10:08:08 PM
The games are very soft though which makes up for everything else.

Soft enough to make up for 30% juice???


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: BigTomatoes on August 21, 2008, 10:11:11 PM
the on i played in charged £10 then put £8 of that into the prizepool wtf ??

 i'd rather pay the £12 and have £10 go into the prizepool , pretty poor , the one i played in has been trying hard to get good organisaition and structure etc , but they've got the buy in wrong , licensing is their problem not the players after all


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: StuartHopkin on August 21, 2008, 10:23:54 PM
The games are very soft though which makes up for everything else.

Soft enough to make up for 30% juice???

No their terrible value now.
Back in the day of the unlimited £10 rebuy, it was a whole different story!


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: Grier78 on August 21, 2008, 10:33:17 PM
The games are very soft though which makes up for everything else.

Soft enough to make up for 30% juice???

No their terrible value now.
Back in the day of the unlimited £10 rebuy, it was a whole different story!

To be honest I havn't been for a few months but I have an ROI of 110% there, the prize pools were very top heavy as they only paid top 3 no matter how many entrants there were. I probably only like cos I run good there though, compared to everywhere else where I run bad.


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: StuartHopkin on August 22, 2008, 01:47:06 AM
Yeah your probably right. Theres just no money there now.

In nottingham it used to be

Thursday £20 freezeout making a pool of about £1200 so 1st was £400
Sunday £10 unlimited rebuy making a pool of about £1800 so 1st was about £600

Between me and 2 of my mates we took it down about 4.5 weeks none stop it was so soft.

Its still soft but 4 hours of complete fish to win £75 just isnt worth the time and annoyance.


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: FuglyBaz on August 22, 2008, 11:18:05 AM
the on i played in charged £10 then put £8 of that into the prizepool wtf ??

 i'd rather pay the £12 and have £10 go into the prizepool , pretty poor , the one i played in has been trying hard to get good organisaition and structure etc , but they've got the buy in wrong , licensing is their problem not the players after all

At least the one you played in tried to get a decent structure going. I know it sounds petty to complain about £3 facility charge, but when the organisation is bad, and there isnt even spare decks of cards going around to replace marked cards, that's pretty bad.

I think that £10 of which £8 goes to prizepool is for the King Of Clubs? I think that pays the prize pool doesn't it?


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: smileriraq on August 22, 2008, 01:01:39 PM
soft game in rileys???

Not the one in Newport as one of my mates friends works there and runs a pretty good tournament admitteddly tho its a mates sit n go not an official tournament


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: kinboshi on August 22, 2008, 02:43:02 PM
Do you get dealers for that £3?

dealer dealt and a full complementary buffet kin, dont know what they are moaning about!

It's a cheap night out then? 

People who play at this level are playing for fun.  I'd pay the £3 for a buffet and dealers rather than have it fee free and have no buffet or dealers.



Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: TheChipPrince on August 22, 2008, 02:51:09 PM
£10 + £5 is still fair ifs its dealer dealt and buffet IMO


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: Acidmouse on August 22, 2008, 02:54:12 PM
Local Grovesnor charges 3.50 for a 10 quid freezeout. Dealer final table only.

I don't mind so much i always get a few free cokes and 3-4 poker mags :)


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: pokerfan on August 22, 2008, 05:18:47 PM
Local Grovesnor charges 3.50 for a 10 quid freezeout. Dealer final table only.

I don't mind so much i always get a few free cokes and 3-4 poker mags :)
do you take a packed lunch too?





Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: Acidmouse on August 22, 2008, 08:04:18 PM
Local Grovesnor charges 3.50 for a 10 quid freezeout. Dealer final table only.

I don't mind so much i always get a few free cokes and 3-4 poker mags :)
do you take a packed lunch too?

Sorry no, but if u feel like taking one dont let me stop you.


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: bolt pp on August 24, 2008, 10:30:04 AM
Local Grovesnor charges 3.50 for a 10 quid freezeout. Dealer final table only.

I don't mind so much i always get a few free cokes and 3-4 poker mags :)
do you take a packed lunch too?





lol


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: TheDJ on August 24, 2008, 10:52:09 AM
Your lucky, I only played at Rileys once, on litrally pub tables, £10 With 1 RB/AO (something like that anyway) Paid £3.50 juice, not dealer dealt, and the buffet was a extra £2.50 lol


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: FuglyBaz on August 24, 2008, 01:15:52 PM
Your lucky, I only played at Rileys once, on litrally pub tables, £10 With 1 RB/AO (something like that anyway) Paid £3.50 juice, not dealer dealt, and the buffet was a extra £2.50 lol

You're even unluckier.....we didn't have a buffet at all :)


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: TheDJ on August 24, 2008, 01:27:43 PM
Your lucky, I only played at Rileys once, on litrally pub tables, £10 With 1 RB/AO (something like that anyway) Paid £3.50 juice, not dealer dealt, and the buffet was a extra £2.50 lol

You're even unluckier.....we didn't have a buffet at all :)

Fair play lol!



Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: ericstoner on August 24, 2008, 03:10:36 PM
You were lucky..........We lived in shoebox in't middle of t'road etc.


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: kinboshi on August 24, 2008, 08:00:57 PM
You were lucky..........We lived in shoebox in't middle of t'road etc.

You were lucky! We lived for three months in a rolled-up newspaper in a septic tank!

We used to have to get up every morning at six o'clock and clean the newspaper, go to work down the mill,
fourteen hours a day, week in, week out, for six pence a week, and when we got home, our dad would slash us to sleep with his belt!


Title: Re: Rileys charging 30% Juice on Live games
Post by: Newportlad on August 24, 2008, 09:48:13 PM
soft game in rileys???

Not the one in Newport as one of my mates friends works there and runs a pretty good tournament admitteddly tho its a mates sit n go not an official tournament

I went to a couple of these.  Standard is shockingly bad.  Terrible structures.  Steer well clear.