|
Title: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: Rod Paradise on August 26, 2008, 02:58:49 PM I'm amazed that the times gave such attention to the hysterical, stupid whinges from the Artic Explorer.
Sounds like the Ryaniar pilot & crew did everything right. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/news/article4610696.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1 (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/news/article4610696.ece?token=null&offset=0&page=1) Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: AndrewT on August 26, 2008, 03:15:06 PM What a drama-queen.
Complains of a lack of communication from cabin staff, then says Quote “The next thing, the oxygen masks were dropping. My highest priority was to get a mask on to my son who was sitting next to me in a bemused and frightened state," completely ignoring the instructions that the cabin staff give at the start of every single flight to make sure you put your own mask on before helping anyone else (because you can help a child once you're wearing your mask, but a child may not be able to help you should you pass out). Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: Bongo on August 26, 2008, 03:16:31 PM Quote Mr Hadow described today how "well over 80 per cent of people on that flight knew they were going to die" Sounds like they were all wrong then! Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: TheChipPrince on August 26, 2008, 03:18:30 PM What a drama-queen. Complains of a lack of communication from cabin staff, then says Quote “The next thing, the oxygen masks were dropping. My highest priority was to get a mask on to my son who was sitting next to me in a bemused and frightened state," completely ignoring the instructions that the cabin staff give at the start of every single flight to make sure you put your own mask on before helping anyone else (because you can help a child once you're wearing your mask, but a child may not be able to help you should you pass out). Of course, but 99% of parents in a panic will put their childs on 1st Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: Rod Paradise on August 26, 2008, 03:24:30 PM What a drama-queen. Complains of a lack of communication from cabin staff, then says Quote “The next thing, the oxygen masks were dropping. My highest priority was to get a mask on to my son who was sitting next to me in a bemused and frightened state," completely ignoring the instructions that the cabin staff give at the start of every single flight to make sure you put your own mask on before helping anyone else (because you can help a child once you're wearing your mask, but a child may not be able to help you should you pass out). Of course, but 99% of parents in a panic will put their childs on 1st 99% of parents are unnecessarilly risking their kids' lives then. I think Ryanair would be prefectly correct to tell them to drive back as well. Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: AndrewT on August 26, 2008, 03:30:27 PM What a drama-queen. Complains of a lack of communication from cabin staff, then says Quote “The next thing, the oxygen masks were dropping. My highest priority was to get a mask on to my son who was sitting next to me in a bemused and frightened state," completely ignoring the instructions that the cabin staff give at the start of every single flight to make sure you put your own mask on before helping anyone else (because you can help a child once you're wearing your mask, but a child may not be able to help you should you pass out). Of course, but 99% of parents in a panic will put their childs on 1st Which is why the cabin crew will tell people to watch and listen carefully at the start of the flight. Tell them to stop talking, put the newspaper down and pay attention. So that some of this stuff goes in. Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: cia260895 on August 26, 2008, 03:38:10 PM Personally i'd put my kids on 1st then mine unless it was smoke filled,I mean it's not like it takes ages to put on is it?
In moments of high pressure situations everyone acts differently. Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: TheChipPrince on August 26, 2008, 03:39:47 PM AndrewT already has the 2009 military model of gas mask in his avatar so what chance do we have...
Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: Rod Paradise on August 26, 2008, 03:54:52 PM Personally i'd put my kids on 1st then mine unless it was smoke filled,I mean it's not like it takes ages to put on is it? In moments of high pressure situations everyone acts differently. It's the chances of passing out while putting it on your kid, if it's not on them right and working before you pass out you could both die, and if it was on them could they get one on you quick enough if you've passed out? To quote an expert: Quote Any delay in putting on the oxygen masks could have been fatal. "The reason you have to do it quickly is that, at high altitudes, the time of useful consciousness at best will be 15-20 seconds," says Captain Mervyn Granshaw, chairman of the British Airline Pilots' Association and a veteran pilot of commercial airliners including the Boeing 737-200. "At worst it's three to five seconds - you can't hold your breath, it just comes out of you and then you fall over." The effects of a rapid depressurisation at cruising altitude, which can be up to 35,000 feet above sea level for a commercial airliner, are shocking. The temperature inside the aircraft will drop to -50C and the air pressure drop quickly brings unconsciousness. There's damn good reasons for telling adults to do it first, it's the best chance a small kid has got. Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: Rod Paradise on August 26, 2008, 03:56:18 PM BTW I can't wait for Flushy on this thread, the sarcasm will be oozing out of him.
;boldie; ;boldie; Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: kinboshi on August 26, 2008, 04:07:07 PM Quote Mr Hadow described today how "well over 80 per cent of people on that flight knew they were going to die" Sounds like they were all wrong then! I don't think he thought that one through, did he? In fact, he didn't think a lot of it through. Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: AndrewT on August 26, 2008, 04:09:50 PM Quote Mr Hadow described today how "well over 80 per cent of people on that flight knew they were going to die" Sounds like they were all wrong then! I don't think he thought that one through, did he? In fact, he didn't think a lot of it through. Technically, well over 80% of the people on the flight are going to die, eventually... Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: ripple11 on August 26, 2008, 04:10:48 PM There should be a recorded announcement that is played when the masks drop,...repeating what to do with the masks and explaining the plane will immediately decend to a safe flying level.
Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: kinboshi on August 26, 2008, 04:13:41 PM There should be a recorded announcement that is played when the masks drop,...repeating what to do with the masks and explaining the plane will immediately decend to a safe flying level. "Don't panic!! The plane has lost pressure, and we're going to drop 30,000 ft in a matter of minutes. 80% of you will die, and we'd ask that any arctic explorers make their way to the nearest exit." Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: AndrewT on August 26, 2008, 04:15:04 PM There should be a recorded announcement that is played when the masks drop,...repeating what to do with the masks and explaining the plane will immediately decend to a safe flying level. I don't think passengers have any doubt the plane is going to descend to a safe flying level. It's stopping descending once it's reached that level which would be the area of concern. Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: kinboshi on August 26, 2008, 04:18:16 PM There should be a recorded announcement that is played when the masks drop,...repeating what to do with the masks and explaining the plane will immediately decend to a safe flying level. I don't think passengers have any doubt the plane is going to descend to a safe flying level. It's stopping descending once it's reached that level which would be the area of concern. That and if the drinks trolley will be coming round again before the end of the flight. Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: Claw75 on August 26, 2008, 04:31:37 PM There should be a recorded announcement that is played when the masks drop,...repeating what to do with the masks and explaining the plane will immediately decend to a safe flying level. I don't think passengers have any doubt the plane is going to descend to a safe flying level. It's stopping descending once it's reached that level which would be the area of concern. That and if the drinks trolley will be coming round again before the end of the flight. too right. I don't usually drink on planes, but made an exception flying to amsterdam during a thunder storm. the terminal building had been struck by lightening and the jetty thingamejigs were out of order, so no planes could land. the pilot announced that we would be circling until we could land. He said that that should be fine, but we didn't have a great deal of fuel on board. I called for the trolley. Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on August 26, 2008, 04:33:09 PM There should be a recorded announcement that is played when the masks drop,...repeating what to do with the masks and explaining the plane will immediately decend to a safe flying level. I don't think passengers have any doubt the plane is going to descend to a safe flying level. It's stopping descending once it's reached that level which would be the area of concern. That and if the drinks trolley will be coming round again before the end of the flight. too right. I don't usually drink on planes, but made an exception flying to amsterdam during a thunder storm. the terminal building had been struck by lightening and the jetty thingamejigs were out of order, so no planes could land. the pilot announced that we would be circling until we could land. He said that that should be fine, but we didn't have a great deal of fuel on board. I called for the trolley. Did you survive? Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: kinboshi on August 26, 2008, 04:33:49 PM There should be a recorded announcement that is played when the masks drop,...repeating what to do with the masks and explaining the plane will immediately decend to a safe flying level. I don't think passengers have any doubt the plane is going to descend to a safe flying level. It's stopping descending once it's reached that level which would be the area of concern. That and if the drinks trolley will be coming round again before the end of the flight. too right. I don't usually drink on planes, but made an exception flying to amsterdam during a thunder storm. the terminal building had been struck by lightening and the jetty thingamejigs were out of order, so no planes could land. the pilot announced that we would be circling until we could land. He said that that should be fine, but we didn't have a great deal of fuel on board. I called for the trolley. Did you survive? She did, just. Unfortunately, 80% on board didn't make it. :'( Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: Rod Paradise on August 26, 2008, 04:34:20 PM There should be a recorded announcement that is played when the masks drop,...repeating what to do with the masks and explaining the plane will immediately decend to a safe flying level. I don't think passengers have any doubt the plane is going to descend to a safe flying level. It's stopping descending once it's reached that level which would be the area of concern. That and if the drinks trolley will be coming round again before the end of the flight. too right. I don't usually drink on planes, but made an exception flying to amsterdam during a thunder storm. the terminal building had been struck by lightening and the jetty thingamejigs were out of order, so no planes could land. the pilot announced that we would be circling until we could land. He said that that should be fine, but we didn't have a great deal of fuel on board. I called for the trolley. Did you survive? Declared brain dead :( Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: Claw75 on August 26, 2008, 04:34:57 PM There should be a recorded announcement that is played when the masks drop,...repeating what to do with the masks and explaining the plane will immediately decend to a safe flying level. I don't think passengers have any doubt the plane is going to descend to a safe flying level. It's stopping descending once it's reached that level which would be the area of concern. That and if the drinks trolley will be coming round again before the end of the flight. too right. I don't usually drink on planes, but made an exception flying to amsterdam during a thunder storm. the terminal building had been struck by lightening and the jetty thingamejigs were out of order, so no planes could land. the pilot announced that we would be circling until we could land. He said that that should be fine, but we didn't have a great deal of fuel on board. I called for the trolley. Did you survive? nearly didn't survive amsterdam! Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: Claw75 on August 26, 2008, 04:36:06 PM There should be a recorded announcement that is played when the masks drop,...repeating what to do with the masks and explaining the plane will immediately decend to a safe flying level. I don't think passengers have any doubt the plane is going to descend to a safe flying level. It's stopping descending once it's reached that level which would be the area of concern. That and if the drinks trolley will be coming round again before the end of the flight. too right. I don't usually drink on planes, but made an exception flying to amsterdam during a thunder storm. the terminal building had been struck by lightening and the jetty thingamejigs were out of order, so no planes could land. the pilot announced that we would be circling until we could land. He said that that should be fine, but we didn't have a great deal of fuel on board. I called for the trolley. Did you survive? Declared brain dead :( ;yellowcard; how many points did you get on the blonde quiz today Rod? ;D Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: Rod Paradise on August 26, 2008, 04:37:18 PM A few less than you... fair cop.
Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: cia260895 on August 26, 2008, 05:58:15 PM Personally i'd put my kids on 1st then mine unless it was smoke filled,I mean it's not like it takes ages to put on is it? In moments of high pressure situations everyone acts differently. It's the chances of passing out while putting it on your kid, if it's not on them right and working before you pass out you could both die, and if it was on them could they get one on you quick enough if you've passed out? To quote an expert: Quote Any delay in putting on the oxygen masks could have been fatal. "The reason you have to do it quickly is that, at high altitudes, the time of useful consciousness at best will be 15-20 seconds," says Captain Mervyn Granshaw, chairman of the British Airline Pilots' Association and a veteran pilot of commercial airliners including the Boeing 737-200. "At worst it's three to five seconds - you can't hold your breath, it just comes out of you and then you fall over." The effects of a rapid depressurisation at cruising altitude, which can be up to 35,000 feet above sea level for a commercial airliner, are shocking. The temperature inside the aircraft will drop to -50C and the air pressure drop quickly brings unconsciousness. There's damn good reasons for telling adults to do it first, it's the best chance a small kid has got. Fair point, well made my view has changed ty Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: Royal Flush on August 26, 2008, 06:52:26 PM BTW I can't wait for Flushy on this thread, the sarcasm will be oozing out of him. ;boldie; ;boldie; lol this tilts me hard!!! OK in a rapid decompression you have to get that mask on sharpish, you have very little time to do so, its based on your alt but at 35,000 you have between 30 seconds and a minute (if you are not very fit and a smoke could be less than 30, if you are a Olympic marathon runner you can probably go longer than a minute) if you want to start messing around getting someone else's on then you are playing a very risky game. You will not die if you don't get it on in that time its the "Time of Useful Consciousness" after which you wont be able to get it on then a few minutes later you will be dead. The altitude you fligh in Concorde at gives you between 6 and 12 seconds! Imagine helping someone then! Once you get past 38k i think it is as a pilot you are required to be wearing a mask at all times just in case. Obv this guy is an idiot and knows nothing of what he is talking about, no-one passed out that would be enough evidence to show that the masks all worked! Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: Rooky9 on August 26, 2008, 08:41:41 PM BTW I can't wait for Flushy on this thread, the sarcasm will be oozing out of him. ;boldie; ;boldie; lol this tilts me hard!!! OK in a rapid decompression you have to get that mask on sharpish, you have very little time to do so, its based on your alt but at 35,000 you have between 30 seconds and a minute (if you are not very fit and a smoke could be less than 30, if you are a Olympic marathon runner you can probably go longer than a minute) if you want to start messing around getting someone else's on then you are playing a very risky game. You will not die if you don't get it on in that time its the "Time of Useful Consciousness" after which you wont be able to get it on then a few minutes later you will be dead. The altitude you fligh in Concorde at gives you between 6 and 12 seconds! Imagine helping someone then! Once you get past 38k i think it is as a pilot you are required to be wearing a mask at all times just in case. Obv this guy is an idiot and knows nothing of what he is talking about, no-one passed out that would be enough evidence to show that the masks all worked! How many cabin depressurations are actually full pressure loss though? Surely that would mean the whole plane would explode or implode, not sure which! I thought you normally get between six and 12 minutes to ge down to a safe height for regular crusiing altitude, that might include the decent though. The airflow through the masks is also supposed to be pretty light to the point where people don't think its working! I think the pilot mask requirement must upwards of 42k otherwise you'd have some pretty uncomfortable long haul pilots with weird imprints on their face through customs. I love flying but if I was decending 30k in three minutes I'd be worried the nose wasn't coming up. Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: wader leg on August 26, 2008, 09:05:39 PM Obviously I've never met Wilf and Freya but with names like that coupled with Daddys behaviour I can pretty much imagine what they are like.
Here's to a long and painful bout of earache. Title: Re: Ryanair depressurisation emergency.... Post by: kinboshi on August 26, 2008, 09:13:31 PM Obviously I've never met Wilf and Freya but with names like that coupled with Daddys behaviour I can pretty much imagine what they are like. Here's to a long and painful bout of earache. rotflmfao POTM |