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Title: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: George2Loose on September 02, 2008, 08:42:41 PM
Is my line too aggressive pre flop?

Seat 1: BristolCi (3180 in chips)
Seat 2: tomee99 (3375 in chips)
Seat 3: LeBursuc (2200 in chips)
Seat 4: Carljk12 (2175 in chips)
Seat 5: panada (2850 in chips)
Seat 6: bustooooo (2910 in chips)
Seat 7: Flopit1 (4595 in chips)
Seat 8: __gspot__ (3450 in chips)
Seat 9: stringbet (2615 in chips)
Seat 10: Boomslang (2555 in chips)
Boomslang: posts small blind 25
BristolCi: posts big blind 50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to stringbet [Jc Qc]
tomee99: calls 50
LeBursuc: folds
Carljk12: folds
panada: folds
bustooooo: folds
Flopit1: folds
__gspot__: folds
stringbet: raises to 250
Boomslang: folds
BristolCi: folds
tomee99: calls 200
----- FLOP ----- [Ac Tc 4d]
tomee99: checks
stringbet: bets 300
tomee99: raises to 800
stringbet: raises to 2365 and is all-in
tomee99: calls 1565
----- TURN ----- [Ac Tc 4d][8s]
----- RIVER ----- [Ac Tc 4d 8s][7s]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
stringbet: shows [Jc Qc] (High Card Ace)
tomee99: shows [Ad Kh] (A Pair of Aces, King high)
tomee99 collected 5305 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 5305 Main pot 5305 Rake 0
Board [Ac Tc 4d 8s 7s]
Seat 1: BristolCi (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: tomee99 showed [Ad Kh] and won (5305) with A Pair of Aces, King high
Seat 3: LeBursuc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Carljk12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: panada folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bustooooo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Flopit1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: __gspot__ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: stringbet (button) showed [Jc Qc] and lost with High Card Ace
Seat 10: Boomslang (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: Longy on September 02, 2008, 09:23:24 PM
Looks standard to me.

By get away from it on the turn, do you mean flatting the c/r on the flop and folding a blank turn. If so i don't like than line.


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: bolt pp on September 02, 2008, 09:32:04 PM
Looks standard to me.



Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: AlexMartin on September 02, 2008, 09:45:46 PM


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: Horneris on September 02, 2008, 09:48:03 PM


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: George2Loose on September 02, 2008, 09:59:59 PM
Reason Im posting this is I'm not running too well at the moment and seem to be getting into these "standard" pots a lot lately. Just ran KK into AA in the yongsta qualifier with 20 big blinds lol

Just wanted the reassurance- Thanks,


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: bolt pp on September 02, 2008, 10:07:17 PM
Just ran KK into AA in the yongsta qualifier with 20 big blinds lol

 fold


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: MC on September 02, 2008, 10:07:52 PM
Don't see what else you're supposed to do here, played it exactly right...


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: tantrum on September 03, 2008, 12:03:31 AM
haven't posted for a while- but this situation is opponent's and your image dependent....btw what kind of tourney it is?




Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: free0bird on September 03, 2008, 12:26:48 AM
personally no harm in raising pre flop

the scary thing you shouldve noticed he called

on the flop yes you have the flush draw so you raise - thats ok
he re-raises - SCARY
at this stage of teh tourney and after these events
personally your on a draw v either two pr or AK AQ AJ
youve been reraised allin.

my guess would be fold lick your wounds and say he had the best hand walk away.
or gamble - you lost take it as a man and walk away

if you were willing to go allin preflop then don't sweat it you ran into a hand that wouldve called you anyway.


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: Longy on September 03, 2008, 01:10:16 AM

the scary thing you shouldve noticed he called


BB could have any kind of hand here alot villians will call v wide as it is only 150 more and we have position. I would have been more worried if we had got 3bet.


on the flop yes you have the flush draw so you raise - thats ok


We have a flush draw and a gutshot giving us an extra 3 outs against most hands. This makes a difference as our equity is considerablely more in spots like this.


he re-raises - SCARY
at this stage of teh tourney and after these events
personally your on a draw v either two pr or AK AQ AJ
youve been reraised allin.


You appear to be easily scared. We have a strong combo draw, his range is alot wider or should be than those hands. He can have a flush draw as well, a set, weaker aces, air etc. Alot of the stronger aces will often 3bet pre here.

We are not re raised all in, villian check raises to 800 and we have some, granted not alot of fold equity left by pushing.


my guess would be fold lick your wounds and say he had the best hand walk away.
or gamble - you lost take it as a man and walk away


As far as im aware George2loose hasn't been in any westerns recently.

if you were willing to go allin preflop then don't sweat it you ran into a hand that wouldve called you anyway.


I doubt he was willing to go allin preflop qj here and im not sure how that is relevant anyway.


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: free0bird on September 03, 2008, 01:16:06 AM
if he's will ing to raise 4 x the BB pre flop,

is he stealing or hoping to be called or reraised and he still calls.

chances are he raised looking for a nice flop he gets it so,

hes prepared to go allin so do it.

totally on subject Grrr...


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: ChipRich on September 03, 2008, 07:03:42 AM
Pretty standard, not really sure why ud ever wana get away from this though.


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: Ismene on September 03, 2008, 04:55:50 PM
I like the play.

Just wondered - is the villain a familiar face / name to you.
What buy in is the tourney?


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: George2Loose on September 03, 2008, 06:55:29 PM
No nothing about villian so maybe should have proceeded with caution.

£50 on crypto


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: MC on September 03, 2008, 08:04:34 PM
lol, folding to the raise???

You're like 40% against a set here that is not even an option.

And by shoving over the top you're giving hands that are a coinflip a chance to fold.


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: Rupert on September 04, 2008, 09:11:45 AM
i'd probably limp behind or make it 4x pre.  i think 5x is a bit spewy. i'd cbet bigger on the flop so if he goes all in it makes it an easier call and he might fold more hands we have like 40% equity against which will increase our overall equity


Title: Re: Should I get away from this on the turn?
Post by: Rupert on September 04, 2008, 09:12:09 AM
also dont post results, no one cares and it can skew peoples opinions