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Title: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: The_nun on October 09, 2008, 07:21:51 PM
What a result , One or more of the 10 youths that broke Darrens leg and ribs and put him out of work for over 6 weeks have been caught.


They have been told not to do it again. Given a pat on the back and off they go.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: The_nun on October 09, 2008, 07:24:04 PM
Bitter me ....nahhhh.

Maybe next time that kick will be fatal and make the news.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: Graham C on October 09, 2008, 07:44:16 PM
Can they not have charges brought against them?


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: Laxie on October 09, 2008, 07:57:08 PM
FFS!!!  I'm so sorry.  That's just plain wrong.  Sigh.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: The_nun on October 09, 2008, 08:21:26 PM
If we want to bring rcharges we need to get a solicitor for some independent jobbie. What bugs me is how did they catch them from CCTV if they have no previous?


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: Colchester Kev on October 09, 2008, 08:27:12 PM
So hang on, let me get this right ... they were captured on CCTV committing the offence of ABH, they were eventually caught by the police but the police have decided not to charge them ??


If that is the case then its fkin scandalous !!


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: cia260895 on October 09, 2008, 08:32:34 PM
FFS what a load of bollox
 
FFS!!!  I'm so sorry.  That's just plain wrong.    Sigh.

Why is it always the way?


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: byronkincaid on October 09, 2008, 08:32:53 PM
local paper would prob be interested in the story


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: Robert HM on October 09, 2008, 08:42:16 PM
Formal complaint to Duty Officer and reviewing lawyer at CPS, but you didn't hear it from me.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: The_nun on October 10, 2008, 01:34:55 AM
You got it in one Kev.




Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: The_nun on October 10, 2008, 01:46:51 AM
The wording went as follows.

PROGRESS SO FAR

Following successful investigation, a young person/s has been arrested and admitted your crime.

The young person has been given a fianl warning for your crime. This decision was made after considering the circumstances of the offence abd the previous character of the young person.
Whilst the young person is not going to court on this occasion, this fianl warnig will be taken into account if they are arrested in the future.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: Laxie on October 10, 2008, 01:48:13 AM
Absolute load of HOGWASH!!!  And you can tell em I said that too!


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: The_nun on October 10, 2008, 01:49:59 AM
So the young person/s were stealing and could easliy have commited manslaughter with the wrong kick, but they are ok to carry on in this wonderful world commiting any crime they feel they can get away with.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: The_nun on October 10, 2008, 01:52:35 AM
Maybe the spelling was better too.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: suzanne on October 10, 2008, 01:59:35 AM
Total Bullsh*t...I would push it further Mo


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: The_nun on October 10, 2008, 12:57:48 PM
Total Bullsh*t...I would push it further Mo

Is it worth it really?. I doubt if the outcome would be much different. I just find it so bloody annoying that there is all this about clamping down on street gangs carrying weapons but yet when they are caught early enough to maybe deter them into next time carrying a weapon they let um off.    ;frustrated;


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: kinboshi on October 10, 2008, 01:09:27 PM
I'd definitely follow Robert's advice. 

I'm sure there are also ways of pursuing a civil case as well. 

You have PM...


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: AndrewT on October 10, 2008, 01:10:10 PM
The wording went as follows.

PROGRESS SO FAR

Following successful investigation, a young person/s has been arrested and admitted your crime.

The young person has been given a fianl warning for your crime. This decision was made after considering the circumstances of the offence abd the previous character of the young person.
Whilst the young person is not going to court on this occasion, this fianl warnig will be taken into account if they are arrested in the future.

Hmmm.

They took into account his previous character, yet this is a 'final warning' - ie, he's done this sort of stuff before.

I agree with Kev - an absolute scandal. No wonder no one has any faith in the justice system any more.

Also, the phrase 'successful investigation' is just jarring and pretty disgraceful.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: WYSINWYG on October 10, 2008, 01:11:24 PM
Hard in UK to cause broken leg in assault and not go to court/get custodial term unless there is lack of evidence.
Must be lack of evidence?


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: Matt50 on October 10, 2008, 01:14:10 PM
Cant understand why street crime is rising in this country!!  ;grr;


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: lazaroonie on October 10, 2008, 01:30:11 PM
you see though, its not their fault, little lambs. probably had a tough upbringing.

also the fact that there is a total unwillingness to send anyone to jail, unless it is for nicking a few quid from the government. this is due to prison "overcrowding". there are too many people in prison you see.

well, the solution is simple. build more jails. in fact dont build them jails, make them build them themselves. and then fill them up. and if they do it again, then put them back in. only the really stupid are likely to continually reoffend before they get the message, and therefore not a great loss to society.


scum.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: The_nun on October 10, 2008, 01:31:20 PM
I'd definitely follow Robert's advice. 

I'm sure there are also ways of pursuing a civil case as well. 

You have PM...

No I don't. lol have you sent it to someone else?


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: The_nun on October 10, 2008, 01:33:09 PM
Not too sure how much was caught on the cctv but I know some was.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: kinboshi on October 10, 2008, 01:33:48 PM
I'd definitely follow Robert's advice. 

I'm sure there are also ways of pursuing a civil case as well. 

You have PM...

No I don't. lol have you sent it to someone else?

;D - I was writing it and the phone rang.  Just finished now and sent it to you, hopefully...


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: kinboshi on October 10, 2008, 01:34:05 PM
Not too sure how much was caught on the cctv but I know some was.

Can you demand to see the evidence?  Robert?


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: The_nun on October 10, 2008, 01:40:33 PM
The onestop gave us a copy but we couldn't play it because of the way it was copied or the system they use. We don't have it now. But it does say the youth/s admitted, so well hmmm, what a strange world we live in.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: Dingdell on October 10, 2008, 01:42:33 PM
I bet if you went and beat him up you'd end up in court.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: The_nun on October 10, 2008, 01:43:46 PM
I bet if you went and beat him up you'd end up in court.

We are not allowed to know who they are.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: cia260895 on October 10, 2008, 02:13:53 PM
is it just criminals that have human rights?


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: Maxriddles on October 10, 2008, 03:50:10 PM
is it just criminals that have human rights?

You would think so wouldn't you.

This country is a disgrace when it comes to crime and punishment, an absolute disgrace. There is so much I'd like to say but could be here all day and night. The worst thing about it is that this is standard throughout the country. Sadly these little bastards or some of them will probably go on to do a lot worse to someone else. This is a shameful outcome. Other than what has already been mentioned I would also suggest making your concerns known to your MP.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: Robert HM on October 10, 2008, 03:53:45 PM
Hard in UK to cause broken leg in assault and not go to court/get custodial term unless there is lack of evidence.
Must be lack of evidence?

Admissions are pretty good evidence.


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: Robert HM on October 10, 2008, 03:55:44 PM
Me ---------PM ----------> Maureen


Title: Re: Great News they have been caught.
Post by: WYSINWYG on October 10, 2008, 04:09:28 PM
Hard in UK to cause broken leg in assault and not go to court/get custodial term unless there is lack of evidence.
Must be lack of evidence?

Admissions are pretty good evidence.
Admissions? Is that on the earlier thread? There must be something major in the way of a successful prosecution then. For all its faults, the system doesn't just go 'ABH/GBH + admission > slapped wrist'. What reason did they give for dropping it?