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Hi chaps,

Need a bit of advice - my online game is considerably different from my live one - and i want to be able to translate it into my live one - which i consider to be rather staid at times. However I always seem to balk at doing things live that i would have no hesitation doing on line.

Any suggestions other than " grow some?"

The only real solution is to play a lot of live poker. Be aware though, llve and on line are, and always will be, two different animals.

Inherent problem with female poker players they dont play the same live as they do online, i dont really know why, i think women embarrass easier and therefore tend to make less moves lest they think they might look silly.(which just isn't the case at all)

Practice, play live more and the more comfortable you are with it the more your online game will come through.

Bolt, wtf is all this sense you've been talking recently?!  ;)

Grow some.


Your welcome!

True but im almost schizophrenic in my styles


Possibly - but i have an "fu" button which invariably makes me look like a complete donkey anyway

Piffle!

Take 100 random female players and 100 random male, and overall the standard of the girls will be streets ahead.

lol, yeah alright!

I'm not talking about seasoned pro's here am i?

If you're talking about 100 men and women that dont play live much and have come into the game through the internet and are of comprable ability then the men will adapt so much better to the live game.

impossible to make such generalisations either way surely, without doing some kind of research?

At the risk of sounding repetitive, piffle!


With the same level of experience, live or online, the women would be better overall.

has to be a level, im not bitting again

 ;nanana;

The main difference between live and online is that you get more good players online. There are plenty of bad ones but you are more likely to be put to the test online when you raise than live.

Don't take this to mean that there aren't any good live players because there definitely are.

You need to be careful not to play too many hands. There is no reason to play any less or more than online but because it's so much slower live you can easily find yourself playing twice as many without even realising.

I would say that in a live 9 handed game you're looking at 1 orbit every 16 to 20 minutes whereas online you can probably quarter that number. Therefore if you are playing 3 hands every orbit online which is 1 every 90 seconds or so you could easily get bored and frustrated live where it's every 5 minutes and think that you're not playing enough when in fact you are doing no different.

Play too many hands and you'll lose you edge when it comes to bluffing because people will notice.

I'd recommend trying to act like a scared woman who doesn't know what she's doing. Make a few string bets, throw in single chips then announce raise afterwards etc. and don't tell anyone that you play thousands of hands online. Look for the active players because they'll be bullying you. You can start to pick off their bluffs with the odd 3 bet here and there and they'll always think you've got the goods.

Easy pickings.

Works for me.

didn't realise that was an act - you should be on stage mate!

I tend to think women in LOW stakes live games are usually better than most men in those games.

Why would a woman want to sit around playing cards with fat drunk men unless she had some clue about what she was doing?

Sweeping generalisations FTW

Understand where the money comes from and it will improve your confidence. Spend the live poker evening looking around the table for bad plays.

I think that's the key here.  Lots of men play, some good, some bad and some ugly.  Not as many women play, and those that do must think they have an aptitude (or at least the nature) to play well enough to win or at least enjoy themselves.  So the women playing are not a 'normal' sample.

In general that is, and all generalisations are dangerous (all of them).

lolz

fyp

Average female players are more self-conscious than male players. So the trick is not to give a toss what people think of you when you're sitting in front of them. Women generally like to leave a good impression on people and this restricts the flow of the poker skillz. In comparison the typical drunk guy to your left is oblivious to these matters and is thinking only about kebab meat. Next time you go to the casino look terrible. No make-up, matted hair, uncoordinated clothing. If you can do this and not care you will play much better.

lol mantis, it's that easy is it?

"get ready love, we're going poker tonight"

"I dont want to, i'm self conscious and stuff"

"well just dont give a toss"

"ok"

Mantis reads womens souls!!!!

YouTube: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WHcQ5wRZ9iU

Nobody said poker was easy bolt.

I would imagine the lady doesn't get dressed up for internet poker where she plays better....so having some fun going to a live game looking a state will challenge the social pressures she is putting on herself. No doubt that will be quite a difficult task. I am sorry it's not easier. But that would be a step in the right direction to recreating that care-free and ultimately successful online mentality she enjoys at home. I like the reading women's souls bit though. It could be true.

poker is easier than curing a women of her insecurities, FACT.

lol - sounds like me.  must be why I do ok live!

Thanks guys - I think in some ways Mantis may be right - i do want to leave a good impression. However, not in that way. I was thinking about it whilst;st at work tonight - and the fact is I want to make a huge impression - not with what i look like ...

I can do the Vicky (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=449) Coren (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=449) ditzy blonde bimbo - probably too well - and it's exceedingly handy at times - but not what i want my entire game to be about. Online everyone thinks I'm a bloke anyway - so i guess it never comes into it - and i suppose in some sense my game is freed up - as my raise rate is far more frequent and i trust my instincts more when calling with Ace high


However, I have concluded that the one thing which causes me to pres the FU button more times than not when live, is the fact that i am limiting my aggression - for god knows what reason, when i 'yearn' to be far more 'honest' or 'bullish.' I think it is probably fear of being our played  - and that is what i need to work on not giving a toss about - and the fact that it will take me longer than the 2 yrs to reach the standard that i deem acceptable.

Unfortunately for me - but very fortunately to everyone who frequents the G on a Wed it would appear that some rather expensive - but IMO worthwhile lessons are soon to be had.

Cheers for the suggestions - it certainly helped me in down a few thoughts which had clearly been troubling me subconsciously for  a while. - In the end i have to take Flushy's well thought out answer - and grow some... ;)

Axx



Sigh Ling here - why can't i remember to log him out!!!!!

When I saw the words "I want to leave a good impression" assigned to a Post by Rookie, I had to do a double-take......

Very fine Show tonight Miss C. You left a good impression there.

Surely you realised it couldn't have been the moment 'I' said :

"I think in some ways Mantis may be right"


I shall be having words with Ling about this.

I had a similar thought when playing on Wednesday night.

Shortstacked I was pushing every unopened pot
Happy with the blinds or a flukey double up.

After a couple of comments i folded a couple

I could argue, I didnt want to force them to call at some point

But in reality online, I would have kept pushing until I had 10 BB or got looked up and lost.

So really because I was dealing with real people something in my head said I should stop because I didnt want to look stupid. Even though they were stupid for not understanding what I was doing.

Hope that makes sense.

It does, but it didn't.

Thanks guys - I think in some ways Mantis may be right - i do want to leave a good impression. However, not in that way. I was thinking about it whilst at work tonight - and the fact is I want to make a huge impression - not with what i look like

I wasn't really talking about what you look like either. The clothes are a bit of a metaphor for social behaviour. Why do we wear nice stuff when we're in the company of others? I would say because we are socially conditioned to want to be accepted and thought nicely of. Trouble is winning at poker is always at someone else's expense. So you want their opinion to be pretty negative of you really...because then you'll be winning all the chips. On-line it's standard to fist-pump holla when you bust your oppo. That is your natural thinking coming out. But you wouldn't do that live because socially that would be rude and they wouldn't think nicely of you. So why bother wearing nice stuff? I personally wear nice stuff because I am very vain and really enjoy the hate of people I beat. It's only a game.

live poker much much easier, but very slooow.