Title: Betting Shop story Post by: bolt pp on December 20, 2008, 04:24:47 PM Not the most amusing story but did make me laugh, i forgot about it and my pal belled me and said something that reminded me about it.
Just gives you a bit of an insight into how people outside of the gambling world view the game. last Saturday young smart looking black girl, probably about 20, walks into the betting shop and goes up to the counter, this is how it goes............... Girl: "I want to bet on the final of x-factor please" Cashier: "let me get the prices up" she goes through the prices with her............... Girl: "O.k, i'll have £10 on all three please" cashier:(puzzled look on her face) "you're not going to win though unless the outsider wins though so it's probably better if you pick one" Girl: "but i dont know who's going to win" cashier: "so you sure you want to back all three" Girl: "yeah, i should win shouldn't i if i back all three then i get the winner and should win money" The girl is completely serious and the cashier woman is looking at me now in disbelief so i interject and try to give a rudimentary guide to gambling explaining that it's not a place that just prints money or we'd be in here all day backing everything to which she replies: "well i just want to back the winner of x factor" lol. she then proceeds to insist the cashier write the bet on three different slips so it looks like shes picked the winner, ::) Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: byronkincaid on December 20, 2008, 04:50:27 PM just listened to annie nightingale on the bbc iplayer who said when you play roulette you should use the past numbers on the LCD screen to work out the odds of your numbers coming up next roll.
Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: thetank on December 20, 2008, 05:04:37 PM She just wants to pretend she won to her friends perhaps?
The most popular lottery numbers are whatever came out last week. Once every 135,000 years, the numbers will be the same on two consecutive draws. When this happens, 3,000 would be comedians will all be dancing in the streets, until they find out they have to share the jackpot with 2,999 other people and their ticket is only worth £900 For the same reason, it is not a good idea to pick the numbers 1,2,3,4,5 and 6 Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: Grier78 on December 20, 2008, 08:04:32 PM She just wants to pretend she won to her friends perhaps? The most popular lottery numbers are whatever came out last week. Once every 135,000 years, the numbers will be the same on two consecutive draws. When this happens, 3,000 would be comedians will all be dancing in the streets, until they find out they have to share the jackpot with 2,999 other people and their ticket is only worth £900 For the same reason, it is not a good idea to pick the numbers 1,2,3,4,5 and 6 Why play at all, have you seen the juice on a lottery ticket? Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: thetank on December 20, 2008, 08:44:55 PM I don't play the lottery, but it's really useful to use as a reference point when explaining gambling theory to muggles.
Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: bolt pp on December 20, 2008, 08:49:39 PM I don't play the lottery, but it's really useful to use as a reference point when explaining gambling theory to muggles. so 123456 has got more or less chance of coming in? Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: thetank on December 20, 2008, 08:52:26 PM Same chance of winning, but you'll win less.
Then I slip the word equity in there and we're off. Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: gatso on December 20, 2008, 08:54:50 PM I don't play the lottery, but it's really useful to use as a reference point when explaining gambling theory to muggles. so 123456 has got more or less chance of coming in? I always thought it was more cos they're the white ones and so show up better on tv Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: GlasgowBandit on December 20, 2008, 09:04:22 PM I think thats were I'm going wrong, maybe I should try picking all possible selections. Fecking race would probs be voided or something.
Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: thetank on December 20, 2008, 09:08:43 PM I find the shit quite interesting really.
If you pick 6 numbers yourself "at random" you are less likely to pick combinations with two or three numbers close together, because of the way the human mind works and our bias perception of random. So your random six numbers that you pluck from your head as you look at the card are more likely to have been picked by other people too. So you could argue that the best way is to use a random number generator by gettting a lucky dip. However, I think if there is a bias in the way people "randomly" select their numbers, rather than making it truly random yourself, you can exploit the bias in the other direction. That is, look for combinations that people are less likely to pick. The number of people who pick birthdays and dates of anniversarys and stuff as their numbers makes for a heavier density in the numbers 1-30 being picked. So to maximize lottery ticket equity (other than not fookin playing) my theory is to select three numbers at random (with a random number generator) between 31 and 49. Write down all the possible neigbours to these three numbers, and pick the fourth number as one of them (at random random with the random machine, not your head). The other two numbers you select at radom between 1 and 49 (again, not yourself, with a random number generator) As you're fated to win the lottery one day (because you're special) following this advice could save you millions when you don't have to share your jakker. Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: bolt pp on December 20, 2008, 09:14:16 PM I find the shit quite interesting really. If you pick 6 numbers yourself "at random" you are less likely to pick combinations with two or three numbers close together, because of the way the human mind works and our bias perception of random. So your random six numbers that you pluck from your head as you look at the card are more likely to have been picked by other people too. So you could argue that the best way is to use a random number generator by gettting a lucky dip. However, I think if there is a bias in the way people "randomly" select their numbers, rather than making it truly random yourself, you can exploit the bias in the other direction. That is, look for combinations that people are less likely to pick. The number of people who pick birthdays and dates of anniversarys and stuff as their numbers makes for a heavier density in the numbers 1-30 being picked. So to maximize lottery ticket equity (other than not fookin playing) my theory is to select three numbers at random (with a random number generator) between 31 and 49. Write down all the possible neigbours to these three numbers, and pick the fourth number as one of them (at random random with the random machine, not your head). The other two numbers you select at radom between 1 and 49 (again, not yourself, with a random number generator) As you're fated to win the lottery one day (because you're special) following this advice could save you millions when you don't have to share your jakker. If i dont win next week your system is shit Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: TheChipPrince on December 20, 2008, 09:15:10 PM I read somewhere that the 6 numbers off LOST are the most popular picks...
Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: thetank on December 20, 2008, 09:17:54 PM OAP masterchef.
they all get £25 shopping budget to prepare their menu. Gladys comes back with 24 lottery tickets and a tin of cat food. Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: thetank on December 20, 2008, 09:18:46 PM I read somewhere that the 6 numbers off LOST are the most popular picks... That might be true, my info is ages old. What are the six numbers of LOST? Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: bolt pp on December 20, 2008, 09:19:58 PM I read somewhere that the 6 numbers off LOST are the most popular picks... That might be true, my info is ages old. What are the six numbers of LOST? 2, 7, 8 , 34, 35, 54. Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: LeKnave on December 20, 2008, 11:40:19 PM I read somewhere that the 6 numbers off LOST are the most popular picks... That might be true, my info is ages old. What are the six numbers of LOST? juuuuuune u cant pick them. gglife if u win. If i dont win next week your system is shit ahahahaha. Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: ScottMGee on December 21, 2008, 12:19:54 AM Quote Why play at all, have you seen the juice on a lottery ticket? Where else do you have the chance of winning £4.5m + for a £1. By the way a childhood friend of my missus won about £6m, so you never know it could be you next. Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: thetank on December 21, 2008, 12:49:28 AM Where else do you have the chance of winning £4.5m + for a £1. anywhere spin up yo! Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: pokerfan on December 21, 2008, 12:50:35 AM two nominations in 1 night
Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: MANTIS01 on December 21, 2008, 12:52:23 AM If all three acts on the x-factor last Saturday had actually got the exact same number of votes I bet that woman from the bookies would have fist-pumped hard.
Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: Shogun112 on December 21, 2008, 12:56:26 AM How would you like to do a lottery like this...
You pay your £1.00 per ticket just once at the start (when you want to start) only, not week after week.. So, if you want 10 tickets for £10.00, then just pay that amount now, and not pay for entry into the next lottery, but you would automatically be entered into the all succeeding lotteries, time after time with the same numbers until you decide not to play any more. The numbers that you have will be 100% unique to you, so if you win the first prize, it is yours alone and not shared with any number of people. The prizes will start at £1,000,000 and go to the lowest payout of £50.. If you decide at any time in the future, you dont want to do the lottery any more, you can ask for your money back, and they will give you back your original amount of money that you gave them at the start, so theoretically it would have cost you no money at all. Does that sound interesting? Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: MANTIS01 on December 21, 2008, 01:06:00 AM How would you like to do a lottery like this... You pay your £1.00 per ticket just once at the start (when you want to start) only, not week after week.. So, if you want 10 tickets for £10.00, then just pay that amount now, and not pay for entry into the next lottery, but you would automatically be entered into the all succeeding lotteries, time after time with the same numbers until you decide not to play any more. The numbers that you have will be 100% unique to you, so if you win the first prize, it is yours alone and not shared with any number of people. The prizes will start at £1,000,000 and go to the lowest payout of £50.. If you decide at any time in the future, you dont want to do the lottery any more, you can ask for your money back, and they will give you back your original amount of money that you gave them at the start, so theoretically it would have cost you no money at all. Does that sound interesting? I've got a mate called Barry who would be interested in drawing the balls. He's always wanted to have a go at that. Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: thetank on December 21, 2008, 01:11:29 AM Sounds a bit like premium bonds to me.
spinning up interest in a negative EV kinda way ftw! Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: Shogun112 on December 21, 2008, 01:39:40 AM You are right, it is premium bonds lol...
Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: Horneris on December 21, 2008, 05:06:17 AM You are right, it is premium bonds lol... orly. Title: Re: Betting Shop story Post by: jizzemm on December 22, 2008, 02:58:08 AM |