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Never thought id see this one

It's a mad fight.  Barrera is well and truly past his magnificent best, and Khan's best so far hasn't been nearly good enough to trouble a truly world class fighter.

Then there's the weight differential to take into account.

Must be a lot of money behind this one.

Without looking at betfair or anywhere (assuming its even up already) how would you price this fight up Kin?

WTF????????

Words fail me.

Tough one. 

The fight can't take place at anything less than Lightweight - Khan wouldn't be able to drop down any further, even to a catchweight.  That definitely favours Khan.

Barrera's in his mid-to-late 30s now (just checked, 34), so is obviously not at his prime.

However, Barrera is a legend.  Khan is a young fighter with loads of potential, offensively brilliant, defensively very poor. 

Barrera will catch Khan, and it depends how much he's worked on his defence and not leaving his chin out to dry.  Khan will catch the ageing Barrera and his power might be a telling factor.  Barrera 5 years ago and it would easily be Barrera.  Now, I'm not so sure.  Khan has the skills to win, but he'll need to bring it all together on the night.  We have no idea what level Barrera is at the moment.  He hasn't fought for over a year.

I'd say that Khan is a slight favourite...

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Khan is prob too big and too fast. Id expect Barrerra to employ a compact defensive counterpunching strategy, which may well work, but he got ragged around by Pacman and I think Khan will do a similar (but not as classy) job

will be close though

If Barrera is still at 60% of his best though, that would be enough to win it.  It's an intriguing one. 

In the UK as well.

If Barrera catches Khan on the chin in the first round or 2, its goodnight vienna.


I think even a 50% of Barrera's best would be enough ... Khan has been exposed, Breidis Prescott saw to that.

That's what makes it an intriguing fight.  Barrera was brilliant at his peak, but he was retired for over a year, and has had one fight since he came back.

Is he still hungry to go for that world title at a 4th weight?  Or is he just coming back for the money - which he doesn't really need? 

I think this is crazy from the khan camp accepting this fight so soon after getting knocked out it really is a big gamble way massive rewards IF he wins.

I think barrera will be too much for him.

Khan should win but I think value will be with Barrera if he comes back with any of his former best. Agree with Kev that an early knockout is very possible.

Khan is 0-1 against non-chumps too so this is his chance to make it 1-1. I can only assume Barrera is definitely well past his best for Khan's camp and promoter to let this fight happen.

Khan to win , barerra gets a fat sack of loot for his troubles, khans reputation is restored (NAP)

Khan has nothing to lose by taking the fight.  If he loses, he loses to a legend.  They can say that Barrera is still near the top of his game, etc.  If Khan wins, they can claim the same - but even if the evidence is contrary to that, beating an aged Barrera is still good for the CV.

Win-win situation for Khan imo.

Unless he gets KOd in the first.

I disagree Boshi - the more confidence he loses at such a young age can have really bad implied odds for his future. Legend or not makes no difference as everyone knows Barrera is never gonna be as good as he was.

I'm not talking about his confidence.  I'm talking about his earnings and his future career.  He loses to Barrera and there's no shame in that.  He beats Barrera and excellent - instaredemption.

You don't think losing this fight could have a detrimental effect on his future career? I do.

If he gets KOd in the first, yes.  Otherwise, no.

To be honest, at the moment the only way he could further damage his floundering career (career as a top-notch boxer and not a GB-level journeyman) is to change his name to Audley (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1012) Harrison (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1012).

I just dont get this fight - why take it apart from the money.
No glory in beating a man past his prime, a half fit, half the man that he was in Barrerra will surely be to much.

One last Pay Day for Kahn IMO.

Gotta hand it to Khan, its a very ballsy move no matter how much bigger he is than Marco. Thats where Khan and Haye will always be superior to fellow amatuer success Audley Harrison, they have jumped right in the deep end with their careers and 6ft 5in Harrison is still in the paddling pool with water wings on.

No chance. Khan has a more than ten years of big pay days if they manage him correctly, pay days that will be amplified by a solid record, the only reason Team Khan has took this fight is because they believe he can win it.

The truth is spoken by DaveShoelace.


But I just cant see it - the idea of boxing is not to get hit, not to get counted out and to try and knock the other guy out - all 3 aspects of the sport that Kahn seems to have trouble with.
I would love Kahn to win but I just can't see he has the ability, fitness does not make a professional boxer.

Its his power and speed that make him a good boxer.

(Its his awful chin and awful defense that make him a bad one)

All of it combined make him exciting to watch.

Its all one way traffic with Khan, up until recently nobody could stop him but at the highest level, anyone has a shot. Khan has a 'i will KO you before you KO me' style and that could win him the fight. Its always going to be a gamble whenever he steps in the ring tho

A few bucks up on betfair

Khan 1.8
Barerra 2

Close one.

Hope Barerra puts him down Prescott style though.

David Haye approaches the game in the same way. He knows he's defensively lacking, but his firepower makes up for it (most of the time).  It's also what makes him exciting to watch.

Naz was the same - and he was caught out when he fought the best (who happened to be Barrera).  Johnny Nelson from the same gym started out as a useless boxer.  Ingle shaped him into a world class boxer - usually dull as dishwater to watch though, as self-preservation was ahead of entertainment for him.  When he did come out of his boxing shell he was superb, but 95% of the rounds he boxed were completely forgettable.

Did everyone see the Mosley v Mayorga fight in the autumn last year?  If not, watch it.  It's the flaws that make Mosley exciting to watch - that fight took it to the extreme.

Khan v Barrera is a fight I never thought I'd see, but it's a brilliant bit of matchmaking and promotion.

YouTube: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JhCc2f53v0w  ?

anybody think the picture Khan is holding up with Barrerras face to promote the fight  looks ridiculously tacky??  They even cut a hole cut out; so Khan can put his fist through it as if he's actually squaring up to him

Freddie Roach is the key to this fight.  If anyone knows the key to beating Barrera, it's him (although it has involved Pacquiao previously and Khan isn't Pacquiao!).

 

Freddy Roach is a fucking snake, always seems to turncoat on his old boxers and trains fighters to beat them lol.

But yes, thats a very good point, Khan has been sparring with Pacman and he could be getting trained up to be Pacman 2. If you remember, Pacman used to be a no defence kinda guy but put on a pugilist master class last time out, so it could be a very good move.

Bit harsh.  I can only think of one boxer he's done that to - and that was De La Hoya - and it was De La Hoya who fired Roach when he lost to Mayweather.  He's just like a football manager who leaves one club and joins another.  If they split on acrimonious terms, he's going to be fired up for a bit of revenge.  Human nature isn't it?

Roach dumped McCullough, but that wasn't him turning his back on the 'Pocket Rocket' - he didn't want to see him fight with a cyst on his brain - which is fair considering what head punches have done to Roach's health.


Also Khan's been training with Pacquiao, and you don't really get a better sparring partner.  I really think Roach is the key here.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7833593.stm

I cannot see past a Barrera win, I really cant.

Meh I actually think Khan will win, I just don't think Warren would have made this fight without knowing something and that something is likely to be that Barrera is shot. Warren has promoted quite a few boxers in the UK and has made them a bit of money by clever match making, Naseem Hamed springs to mind.

Having said that if Barrera is anywhere near his peak, Khan is in a lot of trouble.

LOL contender for "i am gonna hedge my bets" post of the year.

Lol shouldn't have added the last line, imo Khan will win. Barrera is shot and is seeing the $$$$'s on offer for his retirement.

I was thinking that barrera will walk this but then surely like people are saying Warren must have a reason for making this fight and I'm sure Warren was hoping not so long ago that kahn would make him tons of money but if he loses this fight thats unlikely to happen,so if i was going to have a bet on this fight i'd take barrera early ko 1-4 or kahn on points

That's what makes this fight so intriguing - the bookies can't even agree on who's favourite.  So many unknowns.

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I dont think it's the worst fight in the world for him although i was initially shocked and thinking WTF???

his dodgy chin got exposed last time for sure but barrera is more of a grinder, im not sayig he cant punch but he's a clever fighter and i dont think the kahn camp are too worried about him blasting him out in the first round.

If theyre still having it by the 8th round i can see kahn doing him.

barrera will win this without breaking sweat,
he dont have to fight now for the £££££ and make himself look an idiot,barrera is 100% ftw imho...
 khan is finished after getting ko'd warren will get a good pay day whoever wins this,and i think in the back of his mind he probably thinks barrera too,
i really think khan is finished i think he was rushed a bit too soon, very young,to be getting in with real men,
warren should have taken him slower,to get experience,,,i know,i know, its my oppinion....

;bump;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7937189.stm

Dan, can  we get this ?

Oh yes :)up

Awesome, that's my Saturday partly sorted then :D

does anyone think this will do good PPV numbers? all the boxing fans I know are pretty meh about Khan, not sure why.

I think it'll get decent numbers.

I, for one, am really looking forward to it. Massive test for Khan and should give us an idea of what we have with him imo.

Only about 18 months ago that Barrera lost a UD (one judge scoring 115-112) to Manny and we all know how good he is.

Really can't decide on an outcome here.

It's intriguing, and that's why it appeals to me as a boxing fan.  I too have no idea on what the outcome will be. If Barrera is anywhere near his best, then he'll be too much for Khan.  But he isn't, and Khan always has a puncher's chance.  Hopefully Roach has sorted out the gaping flaws in Khan's defence, and if he has, Khan offers a lot going forward.

Could be a corker.

I'm seriously starting to wonder if this fight is on the square having just looked on BF and seen that Khan is 8/11.

Yours truly gobsmacked  ::)

Know what you mean, last time I bet on Khan I got stung when his opponent was simply not fit. A fully fit and flying Barrera would mop Khan up but this is still a very interesting fight.

Such a tough one to call but I lean ever so slightly towards Khan, I think he is simply too big for Barrera and combine that with his speed, youth and power and think he might be too much of an unstoppable force.

If Marco can weather the storm for the first 4 rounds, then Khan is in trouble, but I think Khan may end up ragging him around like Pacman did in their first fight.

I've seen Khan to win by KO at nearly 4-1 briefly on Betfair, that could be the value bet.

I lean towards not having a clue on this one.

I think this is going to go to points i just cant see Khan taking barrera out and the longer it goes on i fancy barrera to do enough to nick it,if khan is to win it i'd say he has to do it within 4/5 rounds

barrera split decision

If it goes to points, I'll be surprised if Barrera isn't ahead by quite a few rounds. 

[ ] I'll be betting on this fight

outside of the uk i'd agree

Oh, the scoring should be fine (he says).  But if it becomes a 12-rounder, I just don't see Khan out-boxing Barrera over the course of the fight.  Defensively, Barrera is too good.  BUT, he's an ageing fighter, Khan has one of the best trainers in his corner, Khan's a lot bigger, it's in Manchester, etc.

Proper looking forward to it.

@ wifes uncles 65th birthday meal in

[ ] am happy

Bad beat. 

Sort out the food to start early
Turn up complaining of stomach bug
Just before 9 o'clock, go to toilet and make loud vomiting noises
Excuse yourself and say you don't want to spoil anyone else's night
Get home in time for the fight with a 4-pack of stella.

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This.

Which is why i am looking forward to the fight so much.

gets worse gotta drive over @ 3 tomorrow so wife can help him set up?? wtf its in a restarant ffs and sleeping over in his bungalo in READING...right poncy food as well

Aggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh. FYL.

(It'll be a shit fight anyway, so you won't be missing much.  We all know what the result is going to be, and so it's not going to be exciting at all - does that help?)

No but off to physio now so will see if she can put my leg in a brace and borrow some crutches,,,,,,,,

FML cant even get a bent physio .... ethical thing ffs

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7940138.stm

anyone stick anything on this? I got 2.2 on barrera earlier and put some on that, reckon its going to be mega close!

Does any one know of a link for this fight? Don't got no sky!!

Any good streams would be appreciated, by pm if necessary.

me too please,pref not them cctv quality 1s at justin.

The main fight is expected to start about 11-ish, as the coverage on Five Live starts at 10:45.

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=32958&part=sports

It's not true what they say about you Dan, you're a top man in my book ;)

Nah - he's the top man:

(http://img.skysports.com/09/03/402x210/Steven-Gerrard-Manchester-United-Liverpool-Pr_2003423.jpg)

Perhaps they were talking some truth before then!

;)


First fight coming on now.  Nicky Cook defending his super-featherweight title against.  He'll do well if he can win this.  Gutsy fighter though.

Cook is looking very impressive, and caught Martinez with a lovely left on the chin that nearly put Martinez down.

Ah.  It all went wrong - Martinez was too much for him, and an uppercut was the punch that put Cook into trouble and he never recovered. 

which link are we actually looking at?

am on barera to win, i just don't think khan is the real deal, if barera is 50% the fighter of his pomp he should be to good for khan.

what link is everyone watching plz!

All the links I clicked on were terribad.

Obv watching it on the dodgy box ftw

same story here, they all look toss.

85 for the draw on BF, had a nibble

This is a decent fight - two rounds to Afolabi so far imo

This guy is awesome

Enzo Maccarinelli so lucky that round didn't have another 30 secs.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/bugies

It's not great but best i've found

booooooooooooooooooooooooooom

woooooooooooooooow

seen that coming for a while

ship the 8/1 for mega stakes

lol better reception for barrera than khan

Any one got another link? Mine was running smooooth til the bloody ring entrance!!

abs com that they are booing Khan

um, Barrera past it?

Looked good that round

Possibly?

Khan looking really good.

all links are rubbish.

given up watching

please don't stop this

Can't see Barrera lasting 12 rounds with that cut unless they manage to stop it somehow, he's gotta go for the KO.

fuck off

bullshit

um, give me my ppv money back

Gutted it's stopped, but Khan did look goooood

Dissapointing!

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

fairly sure i would have taken MAB there

good performance but spoilt ffs

lol ronald mcdonald pmsl

The head clash and the cut from it spoiled the fight, but take nothing away from Khan and the work Roach has done.  He looked very good, and if he can fight like that going forward he'll be able to mix it at the top level.  Maybe they'll give him a few fights, then a world title, and then possibly a rematch with Barrera?

Khan camp got it right, Barrera is past it. Good performance by Khan and the result would have been the same cut or no cut.

Was kind of reminiscent of the Pacquio vs De La hoya match and would have ended the same way, had it carried on imo.

Rematch with Barrera, no thank you. I would rather not watch one of the legends of the modern era, get beaten up for 12 rounds thank you.

QFT, thought the exact same

Sat and watched it with my brother in-law who hates Khan....absolutely gutted it was stopped because of a cut because Khan would have still went on to won and wouldn't give the Khan haters an out!!!

From a betting perspective is that a win on points or KO?

After the fight, Barrera wasn't happy - saying that the cut was the same when the fight was stopped as it was when the clash of heads happened - so why wasn't it stopped immediately (which would have meant a N/C).  I think Barrera would have done better if the cut hadn't happened, BUT I still think Khan would have dominated.

I'm also with Hairydude that the Khan haters will still put forward excuses and reasons why Khan isn't any good.

A great night of entertaining boxing all round, I thought that lad that beat Maccrenelli had a punch perfect strategy against him and the Nicky Cook fight was really good.

Khan was brilliant, although its hard to tell how brilliant because the one thing most people didnt really talk about much at all was the size difference, all the emphasis was on age and how much Marco had left in the tanks, but Khan looked like someone beating up his little brother in that ring. A younger Barrera still might have struggled with a very strong and big lightweight in Khan. But either way, I think Khan was brilliant, he kept his hands up and moved in an out, which is exactly what he needs to do if he is going in for world titles.

The one thing this proves is that world titles mean NOTHING in modern boxing, its all about making the exciting intruiging fights that are hard to predict. Maybe we will see Khan vs Hatton one day? They are very near to each other in size and what a domestic bout that would be.

I think Macaranelli is done...I have never really thought much about him but after Hayes demolition and then that last night I cant see him bringing anything new...the fight before when they put him up against a pub doorman was embarrasing as they made it out to be his big comeback

then last night his opponent never looked fazed(although was probably outpointed) and was a peach of a punch-was like one out of a rocky film-took him right off his feet.

Freddie Roach said after it he thinks Khan will go on to become a world champion...just hope it doesnt take him the years it took Hatton/Calzaghe to be fighting primetime fights in the U.S- thats what we all really want to see!

I hope Macaranelli isnt done, because he is a very honest and entertaining fighter who always has a shot at knocking out whomever he steps in the ring with. But, last night whatshisname (my memory is awful) showed the way against him, the old rope a dope.

If Khan can carry on as he appears to be going from this fight, I think he will be headlining Vegas and Madison Square Garden soon enough, he is very young and they put him in with Barrera, they obviously have big plans for the lad and presumably want to try and get nearly ten years of big money fights out of him. He should also move up the weights a couple of times, he is going to be too big for lightweight soon, so he has the potential to fight lots of different people (I reckon he could take Audley)

Khan obviously has great talent and his boxing seems to have come on for the new trainer but he equally obviously has a suspect jaw and I feel that this will prevent him having real success, as to be a great boxer you just have to be able to take a punch. Once a glass jaw always a glass jaw imho.

Macaranelli should have spent more time sparring and focusing on boxing rather than playing around with beer kegs like he was training in some Rocky film.  He's talented, but I think Enzo Calzaghe's limitations as a trainer are being exposed.  He got away with it with Joe because Joe was exceptionally talented. 

Did Barrerra look like he would have gotten back into the fight after the mid way point?

not able to see fight til tom night...

Mate had bets with 2 bookies on the knockout and one voided the bet and one paid out.

Lol.

I would have said it wasn't a knockout, as the fight was decided on the scorecards ultimately. If barrera had been winning on the cards he would have won the fight, even though his cut stopped the fight.

Tbh it seems unfair to say it was a points decision as it didn't go the distance, the official result was "techinical decision". It is one of those where you have to trawl through each bookies t&c's and they all have different rules, like retirements in tennis.