Khan vs Barrerra

[DaveShoelace]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7830924.stm

Never thought id see this one

[kinboshi]

It's a mad fight.  Barrera is well and truly past his magnificent best, and Khan's best so far hasn't been nearly good enough to trouble a truly world class fighter.

Then there's the weight differential to take into account.

Must be a lot of money behind this one.

[TheChipPrince]

Without looking at betfair or anywhere (assuming its even up already) how would you price this fight up Kin?

[Longy]

WTF??

Words fail me.

[kinboshi]

Without looking at betfair or anywhere (assuming its even up already) how would you price this fight up Kin?

Tough one. 

The fight can't take place at anything less than Lightweight - Khan wouldn't be able to drop down any further, even to a catchweight.  That definitely favours Khan.

Barrera's in his mid-to-late 30s now (just checked, 34), so is obviously not at his prime.

However, Barrera is a legend.  Khan is a young fighter with loads of potential, offensively brilliant, defensively very poor. 

Barrera will catch Khan, and it depends how much he's worked on his defence and not leaving his chin out to dry.  Khan will catch the ageing Barrera and his power might be a telling factor.  Barrera 5 years ago and it would easily be Barrera.  Now, I'm not so sure.  Khan has the skills to win, but he'll need to bring it all together on the night.  We have no idea what level Barrera is at the moment.  He hasn't fought for over a year.

I'd say that Khan is a slight favourite...

[DaveShoelace]

Without looking at betfair or anywhere (assuming its even up already) how would you price this fight up Kin?

Tough one. 

The fight can't take place at anything less than Lightweight - Khan wouldn't be able to drop down any further, even to a catchweight.  That definitely favours Khan.

Barrera's in his mid-to-late 30s now (just checked, 34), so is obviously not at his prime.

However, Barrera is a legend.  Khan is a young fighter with loads of potential, offensively brilliant, defensively very poor. 

Barrera will catch Khan, and it depends how much he's worked on his defence and not leaving his chin out to dry.  Khan will catch the ageing Barrera and his power might be a telling factor.  Barrera 5 years ago and it would easily be Barrera.  Now, I'm not so sure.  Khan has the skills to win, but he'll need to bring it all together on the night.  we have no idea what level Barrera is at the moment.  He hasn't fought for years.

I'd say that Khan is a slight favourite...

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Khan is prob too big and too fast. Id expect Barrerra to employ a compact defensive counterpunching strategy, which may well work, but he got ragged around by Pacman and I think Khan will do a similar (but not as classy) job

will be close though

[kinboshi]

If Barrera is still at 60% of his best though, that would be enough to win it.  It's an intriguing one. 

In the UK as well.

[Colchester Kev]

If Barrera catches Khan on the chin in the first round or 2, its goodnight vienna.


I think even a 50% of Barrera's best would be enough ... Khan has been exposed, Breidis Prescott saw to that.

[kinboshi]

That's what makes it an intriguing fight.  Barrera was brilliant at his peak, but he was retired for over a year, and has had one fight since he came back.

Is he still hungry to go for that world title at a 4th weight?  Or is he just coming back for the money - which he doesn't really need? 

[Micko]

I think this is crazy from the khan camp accepting this fight so soon after getting knocked out it really is a big gamble way massive rewards IF he wins.

I think barrera will be too much for him.

[GreekStein]

Khan should win but I think value will be with Barrera if he comes back with any of his former best. Agree with Kev that an early knockout is very possible.

Khan is 0-1 against non-chumps too so this is his chance to make it 1-1. I can only assume Barrera is definitely well past his best for Khan's camp and promoter to let this fight happen.

[totalise]

Khan to win , barerra gets a fat sack of loot for his troubles, khans reputation is restored (NAP)

[kinboshi]

Khan has nothing to lose by taking the fight.  If he loses, he loses to a legend.  They can say that Barrera is still near the top of his game, etc.  If Khan wins, they can claim the same - but even if the evidence is contrary to that, beating an aged Barrera is still good for the CV.

Win-win situation for Khan imo.

Unless he gets KOd in the first.

[GreekStein]

Khan has nothing to lose by taking the fight.  If he loses, he loses to a legend.  They can say that Barrera is still near the top of his game, etc.  If Khan wins, they can claim the same - but even if the evidence is contrary to that, beating an aged Barrera is still good for the CV.

Win-win situation for Khan imo.

Unless he gets KOd in the first.

I disagree Boshi - the more confidence he loses at such a young age can have really bad implied odds for his future. Legend or not makes no difference as everyone knows Barrera is never gonna be as good as he was.

[kinboshi]

Khan has nothing to lose by taking the fight.  If he loses, he loses to a legend.  They can say that Barrera is still near the top of his game, etc.  If Khan wins, they can claim the same - but even if the evidence is contrary to that, beating an aged Barrera is still good for the CV.

Win-win situation for Khan imo.

Unless he gets KOd in the first.

I disagree Boshi - the more confidence he loses at such a young age can have really bad implied odds for his future. Legend or not makes no difference as everyone knows Barrera is never gonna be as good as he was.

I'm not talking about his confidence.  I'm talking about his earnings and his future career.  He loses to Barrera and there's no shame in that.  He beats Barrera and excellent - instaredemption.