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Title: AA at the Vic Post by: celtic on March 21, 2009, 01:55:22 PM £300 freezeout at the Vic on thursday, Blinds 100-200, I have 17k from starting stack of 7k. UTG Jeff Rodgers limps for 200 (10k), MP (12k) & cut off (10k) do the same. Been at the table about 10 mins so don't know much about the MP & CO.
Round to me in the SB with AA. What is the right amount to raise? Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: action man on March 21, 2009, 01:56:28 PM i like 1k, hopefully get rogers to call as he's a pretty big station
Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: RichardL on March 21, 2009, 02:11:30 PM i would go 1.2k. Think any less and u go 4 way oop too often. Also, a raise to about 1300 here will look like u r just trying tyo punish the limpers and should net u a caller
Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: MC on March 21, 2009, 02:33:10 PM 1.1k FTW!
Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: GlasgowBandit on March 21, 2009, 03:25:13 PM Kid on its iPoker and open for ths standard 6 x BB.
Personally I probs try and get tricky and keep one or 2 of them in, knowing I will ping a set i probs make it 900. Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: boldie on March 21, 2009, 06:01:45 PM an extra 1k sounds fine
Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: celtic on March 21, 2009, 06:04:33 PM Ok, so i made it 1k, Jeff insta calls, MP folds & cut off eventually calls.
The flop comes 5c 6s 7s. I'm 1st to act. What should i do here? Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: MANTIS01 on March 21, 2009, 06:10:46 PM I would pot it buddy
Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: boldie on March 21, 2009, 06:11:29 PM Ok, so i made it 1k, Jeff insta calls, MP folds & cut off eventually calls. The flop comes 5c 6s 7s. I'm 1st to act. What should i do here? 3k in the pot...2200-2400 should do Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: action man on March 21, 2009, 07:07:01 PM i like 1k, hopefully get rogers to call as he's a pretty big station Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: Simon Galloway on March 21, 2009, 07:07:28 PM I would pot it buddy We normally take a similar line mantis but to me this is a screaming check and see what happens. If we pot it, is it with the intention of coming for the rest of it if re-raised? We have about 80BBs here - are we really going to get that in with 1 pair? If not, surely it is better to either take my line and check or at least bet less than the pot for the same result? Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: byronkincaid on March 21, 2009, 07:31:46 PM Quote We have about 80BBs here - are we really going to get that in with 1 pair? be tough to do that against 2 50BB stacks :) Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: Simon Galloway on March 21, 2009, 07:51:29 PM lol missed effective stack size - still not a fan of playing a big pot oop here.
Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: MANTIS01 on March 21, 2009, 08:11:48 PM Quote We normally take a similar line mantis but to me this is a screaming check and see what happens. If we pot it, is it with the intention of coming for the rest of it if re-raised? We have about 80BBs here - are we really going to get that in with 1 pair? If not, surely it is better to either take my line and check or at least bet less than the pot for the same result? One of the guys is a station and the other didn't really have a hand pre. So there is a decent chance it goes check check...and then the turn could well be an impossible card to play. If a bet does come in the board is so draw happy you're not really gonna know what that bet means...and if that bet comes from the c/o especially you're caught in a tough spot. I want to bet enough vs their stacks to either commit them to a push or make them feck off on what isn't an ideal flop. I don't really want to bet less and face calls in this spot. Admittedly tricky though. Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: hatthehole on March 21, 2009, 08:18:19 PM more than 1k preflop imo, 3 limpers, bb still to act, its a live tourney and we are oop. 1500 at least imo
Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: MANTIS01 on March 21, 2009, 09:08:30 PM I think the benefit of a pot bet here vs villain's stacks is that the info you get is going to be of a decent quality. If either of them actually call that bet I'm not liking my hand, and if they both jam I'm not liking my hand. If both fold then ok, and if one jams it's quite possible you're up against a pair/draw combo, draw or over-pair. If you bet less the stations could call and you're a bit lost on the turn and if you check you're a bit lost if they bet. The situation would be more complicated if both had you covered imo.
Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: Chompy on March 22, 2009, 01:50:39 AM 5000 pre flop, then check-fold to a bet on the flop. Not difficult is it?
Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: AlexMartin on March 22, 2009, 12:05:30 PM its fine, now bet 1500 and check almost every turn in the deck if he calls.
Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: paulhouk03 on March 22, 2009, 06:01:12 PM 1.2kpre
then 60-80% of pot depends how funky u r feeling Title: Re: AA at the Vic Post by: Amatay on March 22, 2009, 07:22:12 PM more than 1k preflop imo, 3 limpers, bb still to act, its a live tourney and we are oop. 1500 at least imo I agree. I think u actually kinda turn ur hand face up in this spot as such a raise oop in a multi limp pot screams of a big pr imo |