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Title: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: Chompy on March 22, 2009, 01:58:11 AM
Stack gone from 7000 to 16000, blinds 100-200, early limper, SB calls, you have 88 in the BB and make it 1100 total.
Limper folds, SB insta shoves for 9000 total. This is your third BB elevation and the SB had been busy in recent hands. What to do?


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: GreekStein on March 22, 2009, 02:02:17 AM
1)dont raise pre

2)fold


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: LeKnave on March 22, 2009, 02:06:51 AM
1)dont raise pre

2)fold


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: Royal Flush on March 22, 2009, 02:08:45 AM
1) Don't raise pre

2) Call


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on March 22, 2009, 02:14:24 AM
1) Don't raise pre

2) Call


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: Horneris on March 22, 2009, 02:16:28 AM
1) Don't raise pre

2) Call or Fold


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: celtic on March 22, 2009, 02:18:00 AM
Fold pre. Don't even check, just fold.


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: MANTIS01 on March 22, 2009, 02:25:53 AM
1) Don't raise pre

2) Call
This

Fold pre. Don't even check, just fold.
LOL


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: Newmanseye on March 22, 2009, 02:47:14 AM
call so fast he shits himself, I see similar situatiuons to this live a lot, I would be guessing SB is on a small to medium pp, I would be surprised if he had overs.


Well thats what I see anyways.


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: GreekStein on March 22, 2009, 03:31:38 AM
So happy LeKnave simply quoted my post. On a night where I've done my bollocks this makes up for it.


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: GreekStein on March 22, 2009, 03:36:15 AM
I think sometimes you online guys may pay off live players a little light. Realistically how often is the SB shoving 45 bigs in in the 3rd level without 88 dominated?

Its possible he has AK/AQ and didn't want to raise oop but also has 1010 99 type hands here a lot too and we just don't need to get it in here this early.

Even if he shows 23 off this time round my thoughts are that if we played this hand 100 times and called every time our call would be -EV.


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: MANTIS01 on March 22, 2009, 11:05:33 AM
I think sometimes you online guys may pay off live players a little light. Realistically how often is the SB shoving 45 bigs in in the 3rd level without 88 dominated?

Its possible he has AK/AQ and didn't want to raise oop but also has 1010 99 type hands here a lot too and we just don't need to get it in here this early.

Even if he shows 23 off this time round my thoughts are that if we played this hand 100 times and called every time our call would be -EV.

If sb has a good, but ultimately vulnerable pair, why would he limp after an ep limper? I can see him having 9-9/10-10 if it was bvb and Chompy had been punishing his sb limps. That's not a bad trap. But unless he thinks Chompy will raise that ep limp the trap with say J-J is useless, he would only be trapping himself. The key is the limp-insta-push imo cos I don't think 9-9 is big enough to avoid even a moments dwell really. Agree that A-K/A-Q could insta push but bigger pairs doing this (unless wtf A-A) is not a believable enough strat to stop me calling.


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: MC on March 22, 2009, 11:40:53 AM
1) Don't raise pre

2) Call

5900 to win 14k means we should call if we're 42%.

I'd say this is most likely a flip, and an underpair is just about as likely as an overpair here.


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: Chompy on March 22, 2009, 11:48:08 AM
The SB was stunned that I made the call imo but it was long odds-on with me that she had two overs and, sure enough, she did, 10J soooooted (diamonds). The first two cards out were diamonds but she missed. Ul, gg, wp.


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: Simon Galloway on March 22, 2009, 11:54:42 AM
You run so good.


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: AlexMartin on March 22, 2009, 11:59:42 AM
The SB was stunned that I made the call imo but it was long odds-on with me that she had two overs and, sure enough, she did, 10J soooooted (diamonds). The first two cards out were diamonds but she missed. Ul, gg, wp.

end thread/ this should go in the brag thread.


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: I KNOW IT on March 22, 2009, 01:09:37 PM
The SB was stunned that I made the call imo but it was long odds-on with me that she had two overs and, sure enough, she did, 10J soooooted (diamonds). The first two cards out were diamonds but she missed. Ul, gg, wp.

Was it Lucy?


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: Chompy on March 22, 2009, 02:28:20 PM
Yep, Lucy Goosey imo

The SB was stunned that I made the call imo but it was long odds-on with me that she had two overs and, sure enough, she did, 10J soooooted (diamonds). The first two cards out were diamonds but she missed. Ul, gg, wp.

end thread/ this should go in the brag thread.

LOL


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: GreekStein on March 22, 2009, 05:36:19 PM
If it was Lucy Rokash then call with 8 high, nevermind 88.

Not mentioning villain was one of the biggest donks ever makes your question different and much easier to answer now we know we dont have to give villain any credit for being able to play.


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: Chompy on March 22, 2009, 10:50:02 PM
No, it was a young Asian girl. Played like a gutshot dudess imo


Title: Re: Another hand from the Vic £300
Post by: paulhouk03 on March 23, 2009, 10:01:45 PM
No, it was a young Asian girl. Played like a gutshot dudess imo

lol