Title: Is thisa standard call? Post by: George2Loose on March 26, 2009, 09:47:44 PM ok 35 left. 27 paid. 100r with 1ra (TURBO) 5 min blinds
Villian set me in from sb last time- I folded. Previously he raised button with K9 and didnt bink against my aces (he had to call re raise) I'm thinking his range in this spot is quite wide- given that is this a call or still a fold? Blinds are going to 1k/2k after this hand: PokerStars Game #26394503953: Tournament #150035334, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (750/1500) - 2009/03/26 17:43:27 ET Table '150035334 18' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: George2Loose (13834 in chips) Seat 2: truesyalose (21511 in chips) Seat 3: Al Carmo (130424 in chips) Seat 4: Joao M. (45491 in chips) Seat 6: Aryamehr (59912 in chips) Seat 7: mahtipeluri (13424 in chips) Seat 8: pfkaok (26739 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind) Seat 9: THE_ALPACA (50243 in chips) George2Loose: posts the ante 175 truesyalose: posts the ante 175 Al Carmo: posts the ante 175 Joao M.: posts the ante 175 Aryamehr: posts the ante 175 mahtipeluri: posts the ante 175 THE_ALPACA: posts the ante 175 THE_ALPACA: posts small blind 750 George2Loose: posts big blind 1500 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to George2Loose [Kd 8s] truesyalose: folds Al Carmo: folds Joao M.: folds Aryamehr: folds mahtipeluri: folds THE_ALPACA: raises 16500 to 18000 George2Loose: ? Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: amcgrath1uk on March 26, 2009, 10:01:42 PM Fold for me and look to shove any 2 rather than call K8
Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: boldie on March 26, 2009, 10:07:57 PM fold for me...I'm with Asa on this one.
Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: Graham C on March 26, 2009, 10:43:48 PM fold here too.
Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: MC on March 26, 2009, 11:13:20 PM Fold for me and look to shove any 2 rather than call K8 +1 Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: George2Loose on March 26, 2009, 11:13:52 PM OK and if I have A8?
Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: Newmanseye on March 26, 2009, 11:20:45 PM OK and if I have A8? call with 1 hand in the air tbh Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: MC on March 26, 2009, 11:20:54 PM OK and if I have A8? I call with A8 is that flawed thinking? is A8 all that different to K8. Actually I guess weak aces are a large part of range so it is a reasonable difference... Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: GlasgowBandit on March 26, 2009, 11:38:21 PM Fold for me and look to shove any 2 rather than call K8 +1 +2 I probs fold A 8 in this spot as well. I'd rather get it in first with 9 3 soooted than call with junk. Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: Dewi_cool on March 26, 2009, 11:39:28 PM I agree with Bandit!!! fml innit ;D
Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: Dewi_cool on March 26, 2009, 11:41:08 PM as a proviso a call is probably the right thing to do
Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: gatso on March 26, 2009, 11:45:23 PM if he's shoving atc then your k8o is only like 56% here and it's highly unlikely that his range is atc
rather stick it in with crap than call here A8o is only about 3% better vs atc Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: George2Loose on March 26, 2009, 11:48:47 PM I'll re-iterate that I believe villians range is super wide.
Also everyone so far has said you'd rather shove shite from the button then call in this spot. I'm very unlikely to get a chance to shove from LP as people are consistently opening before me Also people's calling ranges from a cut off/button/MP shove are also quite wide Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: GreekStein on March 26, 2009, 11:54:42 PM I don't hate a call here. If I'm in the small I'm shoving any two.
Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: Horneris on March 27, 2009, 12:00:58 AM Timebank and OPR him imo.
If hes a winning player then call, if hes a losing player you can fold. Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: George2Loose on March 27, 2009, 12:03:15 AM didnt OPR him but have seen him around a lot- assumed he's a winning player
Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: George2Loose on March 27, 2009, 12:04:55 AM Timebank and OPR him imo. If hes a winning player then call, if hes a losing player you can fold. scrapes in as a winning player http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/THE_ALPACA/poker/results/A9F9F5E465EE4F0EAF96747181995660.html?t=2 Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: Horneris on March 27, 2009, 12:06:27 AM Timebank and OPR him imo. If hes a winning player then call, if hes a losing player you can fold. scrapes in as a winning player http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/THE_ALPACA/poker/results/A9F9F5E465EE4F0EAF96747181995660.html?t=2 lol. I Call! Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: ChipRich on March 27, 2009, 12:06:43 AM I call
Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: gatso on March 27, 2009, 12:10:05 AM I don't hate a call here. If I'm in the small I'm shoving any two. I don't hate it either but have realised I didn't make it clear with my post. my reason for pointing out that we're 56% vs atc was to say that we're never too far ahead here so it's close. if he's pushing top 60% it's a flip, if he's pushing atc we're 56%. essentially everyone's pushing range falls between these 2 so by making the call we're always going to be a slight favourite against oppos range here. in fact I've just talked myself into a call with no further info Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on March 27, 2009, 12:10:51 AM easy
Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: thetank on March 27, 2009, 04:56:43 AM As the hand progresses and it gets folded round, I'm hovering over the call button ready to crush his dreams insta-style.
Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: Royal Flush on March 27, 2009, 01:11:21 PM Call and its not close, yeah you might only be 55% against his range or whatever but i would rather be 55% now for this pot when i have this many blinds than looking for a 'better' spot down the line where i might find a 60-40 or even 70-30 for an 18k pot.
Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: George2Loose on March 27, 2009, 01:13:51 PM I put one arm in the air and snapped.
ALPACA had 72 suited (diamonds) Flop was two diamonds and I dodged the lot to double up Title: Re: Is thisa standard call? Post by: ChipRich on March 27, 2009, 09:19:27 PM I put one arm in the air and snapped. ALPACA had 72blue Flop was two blue and I dodged the lot to double up fyp nh |