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« on: March 26, 2009, 09:47:44 PM »

ok 35 left. 27 paid. 100r with 1ra (TURBO) 5 min blinds

Villian set me in from sb last time- I folded. Previously he raised button with K9 and didnt bink against my aces (he had to call re raise)

I'm thinking his range in this spot is quite wide- given that is this a call or still a fold? Blinds are going to 1k/2k after this hand:

PokerStars Game #26394503953: Tournament #150035334, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (750/1500) - 2009/03/26 17:43:27 ET
Table '150035334 18' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: George2Loose (13834 in chips)
Seat 2: truesyalose (21511 in chips)
Seat 3: Al Carmo (130424 in chips)
Seat 4: Joao M. (45491 in chips)
Seat 6: Aryamehr (59912 in chips)
Seat 7: mahtipeluri (13424 in chips)
Seat 8: pfkaok (26739 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
Seat 9: THE_ALPACA (50243 in chips)
George2Loose: posts the ante 175
truesyalose: posts the ante 175
Al Carmo: posts the ante 175
Joao M.: posts the ante 175
Aryamehr: posts the ante 175
mahtipeluri: posts the ante 175
THE_ALPACA: posts the ante 175
THE_ALPACA: posts small blind 750
George2Loose: posts big blind 1500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to George2Loose [ ]
truesyalose: folds
Al Carmo: folds
Joao M.: folds
Aryamehr: folds
mahtipeluri: folds
THE_ALPACA: raises 16500 to 18000
George2Loose: ?

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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2009, 10:01:42 PM »

Fold for me and look to shove any 2 rather than call K8
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2009, 10:07:57 PM »

fold for me...I'm with Asa on this one.
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2009, 10:43:48 PM »

fold here too.
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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2009, 11:13:20 PM »

Fold for me and look to shove any 2 rather than call K8

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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2009, 11:13:52 PM »

OK and if I have A8?
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2009, 11:20:45 PM »

OK and if I have A8?

call with 1 hand in the air tbh
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2009, 11:20:54 PM »

OK and if I have A8?

I call with A8

is that flawed thinking? is A8 all that different to K8. Actually I guess weak aces are a large part of range so it is a reasonable difference...
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2009, 11:38:21 PM »

Fold for me and look to shove any 2 rather than call K8

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I probs fold A 8 in this spot as well.
I'd rather get it in first with 9 3 soooted than call with junk. 
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2009, 11:39:28 PM »

I agree with Bandit!!!  fml  innit Grin
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The very last hand of the night goes to Dewi James, who finds ACES and talks Raymond O’Mahoney into calling his all-in preflop bet of 15k.  “If I had AQ, I’d call!” says Dewi.  Raymond calls holding pocket 66’s.


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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2009, 11:41:08 PM »

as a proviso a call is probably the right thing to do
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The very last hand of the night goes to Dewi James, who finds ACES and talks Raymond O’Mahoney into calling his all-in preflop bet of 15k.  “If I had AQ, I’d call!” says Dewi.  Raymond calls holding pocket 66’s.


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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2009, 11:45:23 PM »

if he's shoving atc then your k8o is only like 56% here and it's highly unlikely that his range is atc

rather stick it in with crap than call here

A8o is only about 3% better vs atc

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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2009, 11:48:47 PM »

I'll re-iterate that I believe villians range is super wide.

Also everyone so far has said you'd rather shove shite from the button then call in this spot. I'm very unlikely to get a chance to shove from LP as people are consistently opening before me

Also people's calling ranges from a cut off/button/MP shove are also quite wide
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2009, 11:54:42 PM »

I don't hate a call here. If I'm in the small I'm shoving any two.
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2009, 12:00:58 AM »

Timebank and OPR him imo.

If hes a winning player then call, if hes a losing player you can fold.
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