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.... lay downs that is.  What is your best ever lay down?

I was playing a cash session last night 2/4 NLHE short handed.  Maniac to my right had built up my $400 nicely to $997.  He makes his standard x2 raise, I call with AQspades in the SB.  BB re-raises to $24.  Maniac calls, I see a flop.

Q,7,2 - 2 spades.  Nut flush draw and TPTK.

Pre-flop reraiser moves all-in for $1700.  Maniac folds.  I fold, he shows KK - one spade. 

Alright, it's not an amazing lay down, and if I only had $50 left I would of called him, fish like me rarely fold so any lay down might be considered 'great'  :D

What about you guys?

In a live tournie laid down K high flush to the ace high flush. What made it a 'good lay-down' for me was the fact that the guy betting into me was a total maniac bluffer, but there was something about the way he was betting, the way he was acting that I knew he had the nuts. Took ages to make the fold but did it in the end.

I once slept for 16 hours without interruption. That was indeed a great lay down.

there's no way i would pass this hand! - i reckon i'd be favourite - gonna run it on cp and come back with the answer

its 49% - 51% in favour of the KK
so technically a good fold but come on - thats tight!

i say call - its more fun that way!

I passed QQ on a ten high board (no flush/straights) to a guy I had convinced myself had hit a set. He called my pre-flop raise from the BB and said "it's in there" as he called which I'd seen him do before with a middle pair, he then bet 1/3 of the pot at me which was just sreaming out to be raised... took me an age but I passed and he showed a set of 8s. No idea how I passed it in all honesty, just one of those things at the time.

and its a cash game your proberly getting pot odds to make the call

I knew it was a tight one Greg.  The problem was, I felt he had Aces or Kings.  Queens he would want action with I suspect, Jacks or worse he wouldn't want to risk a call of around $970 with an under pair (the maniac had folded, this guy wasn't too bad).  I'd spent nearly 4 hours milking the maniac cash cow, did I want to risk a $500+ profit for a potential $400 loss?

Of course if a Q, A or Spade hits it's party time but I'm not really getting great odds - calling my stack, about $970 into a pot of $1042 (I think).  He did hold a spade too (he showed the Kings) which decreased my chances a little further.

On a different day, with a small stack, I would of been in for it.

I have to admit, part of me wishes I'd called. 

My mark is now playing 4/8 NLHE with $2000 in front of him. 

The QQ pass seems very good to me, Phil.

OK not a great lay down story but a fantastic board story.

I dealt a game mast night when we had in one hand quad jacks quad kings a straght and a pair of nines.

as you can imagine all of the money was in the pot but its the first time I ever saw  Ks Kh Kd Kc and  Jc Jd Jh Js on the same board, as you can imagine the guy with the jacks was gonna throw up.  now who could have laid that hand down?

I think its a decent laydown because you had only invested $24 into the pot and were facing a OTT bet of $1700 to win $72.    I dont play much cash, but I'd have thought TPTK with nut flush draw, v a maniac would be a hand most people would kill to get their money in with. 

TUT ... saw the title of the thread and thought .......   ah well never mind  8)

What is this "CP" of which you speak?

This was a different maniac!  :D - strangely he'd been very solid before this occured, I guess he wanted to end the hand then and there.

If it was matey boy I would of called.  Mainly because he only had $250 left and he was a nutter  >:?

CP = 'Card Player' I believe (odds calculator on their site)

http://www.cardplayer.com/ (http://www.cardplayer.com/)

or he mistype PC= poker calculator

Cheers, card player site is nice, thanks for that

I folded the nuts flush in omaha when the rock of the table was betting as if he had the nuts flush, so i correctly deduced he was holding the pure nuts. Took some doing and he was sick when i showed him after.

i made a big lay down the other day at walsall in a £900 pot, unfortunately it was the best hand i layed down.

Once laid down Pocket Kings preflop in a live tourney at last years WPT-PCA event. Was playing one of the evening tournaments - a $300 freezout there was about 100 runners and they were paying top 18 and we were down to about 4 tables. I'd played my usual game building my stack up early so that i could tighten up during the mid stages of the tourney (the part where its starting to get expensive to call to see cheap flops but not quite worth the risk to keep raising to steal the blinds).

I'd hardly played a hand for about an hour when i raised from mid position with AA - of course everyone passed and one of the Americans sat at the table piped up "you must have aces or kings as thats the first hand you've played in ages". About 4 hands later i'm UTG and i pick up KK so again i raise. everyone passes round to the American who had just commented on my previous hand and he immediately reraised me but not by much. He too had been playing quite tight so i deduced that if he thought i was only playing Aces or Kings he must have AA.

Everyone passed to me and after studying him for a while i asked him how much he had left (i knew i had him covered easily but i wanted to see if i could pick up any more of him) as he went to count his chips i realized he had a big hand and much to the amazement of the rest of the table i said "pass" and turned up the two kings. He then promptly threw his arms in the air in disbelief and turned over his two aces.

It was probably the best move i ever made because no-one wanted to mess with me after that and i made the money quite easily before my top set was called by a flush draw which hit on the river :(