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MrMoves
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Great lays
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.... lay downs that is. What is your best ever lay down?
I was playing a cash session last night 2/4 NLHE short handed. Maniac to my right had built up my $400 nicely to $997. He makes his standard x2 raise, I call with AQspades in the SB. BB re-raises to $24. Maniac calls, I see a flop.
Q,7,2 - 2 spades. Nut flush draw and TPTK.
Pre-flop reraiser moves all-in for $1700. Maniac folds. I fold, he shows KK - one spade.
Alright, it's not an amazing lay down, and if I only had $50 left I would of called him, fish like me rarely fold so any lay down might be considered 'great'
What about you guys?
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November 30, 2005, 11:45:14 AM »
In a live tournie laid down K high flush to the ace high flush. What made it a 'good lay-down' for me was the fact that the guy betting into me was a total maniac bluffer, but there was something about the way he was betting, the way he was acting that I knew he had the nuts. Took ages to make the fold but did it in the end.
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November 30, 2005, 11:50:05 AM »
I once slept for 16 hours without interruption. That was indeed a great lay down.
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November 30, 2005, 12:09:56 PM »
Quote from: MrMoves on November 30, 2005, 11:13:07 AM
.... lay downs that is. What is your best ever lay down?
I was playing a cash session last night 2/4 NLHE short handed. Maniac to my right had built up my $400 nicely to $997. He makes his standard x2 raise, I call with AQspades in the SB. BB re-raises to $24. Maniac calls, I see a flop.
Q,7,2 - 2 spades. Nut flush draw and TPTK.
Pre-flop reraiser moves all-in for $1700. Maniac folds. I fold, he shows KK - one spade.
Alright, it's not an amazing lay down, and if I only had $50 left I would of called him, fish like me rarely fold so any lay down might be considered 'great'
What about you guys?
there's no way i would pass this hand! - i reckon i'd be favourite - gonna run it on cp and come back with the answer
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November 30, 2005, 12:12:05 PM »
its 49% - 51% in favour of the KK
so technically a good fold but come on - thats tight!
i say call - its more fun that way!
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November 30, 2005, 12:12:55 PM »
I passed QQ on a ten high board (no flush/straights) to a guy I had convinced myself had hit a set. He called my pre-flop raise from the BB and said "it's in there" as he called which I'd seen him do before with a middle pair, he then bet 1/3 of the pot at me which was just sreaming out to be raised... took me an age but I passed and he showed a set of 8s. No idea how I passed it in all honesty, just one of those things at the time.
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Re: Great lays
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November 30, 2005, 12:16:31 PM »
Quote from: Junior on November 30, 2005, 12:12:05 PM
its 49% - 51% in favour of the KK
so technically a good fold but come on - thats tight!
i say call - its more fun that way!
and its a cash game your proberly getting pot odds to make the call
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November 30, 2005, 12:24:38 PM »
Quote from: Junior on November 30, 2005, 12:12:05 PM
its 49% - 51% in favour of the KK
so technically a good fold but come on - thats tight!
i say call - its more fun that way!
I knew it was a tight one Greg. The problem was, I felt he had Aces or Kings. Queens he would want action with I suspect, Jacks or worse he wouldn't want to risk a call of around $970 with an under pair (the maniac had folded, this guy wasn't too bad). I'd spent nearly 4 hours milking the maniac cash cow, did I want to risk a $500+ profit for a potential $400 loss?
Of course if a Q, A or Spade hits it's party time but I'm not really getting great odds - calling my stack, about $970 into a pot of $1042 (I think). He did hold a spade too (he showed the Kings) which decreased my chances a little further.
On a different day, with a small stack, I would of been in for it.
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MrMoves
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November 30, 2005, 12:30:46 PM »
I have to admit, part of me wishes I'd called.
My mark is now playing 4/8 NLHE with $2000 in front of him.
The QQ pass seems very good to me, Phil.
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November 30, 2005, 12:38:02 PM »
OK not a great lay down story but a fantastic board story.
I dealt a game mast night when we had in one hand quad jacks quad kings a straght and a pair of nines.
as you can imagine all of the money was in the pot but its the first time I ever saw
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on the same board, as you can imagine the guy with the jacks was gonna throw up. now who could have laid that hand down?
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Re: Great lays
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November 30, 2005, 01:11:07 PM »
Quote from: MrMoves on November 30, 2005, 12:24:38 PM
Of course if a Q, A or Spade hits it's party time but I'm not really getting great odds - calling my stack, about $970 into a pot of $1042 (I think). He did hold a spade too (he showed the Kings) which decreased my chances a little further.
On a different day, with a small stack, I would of been in for it.
I think its a decent laydown because you had only invested $24 into the pot and were facing a OTT bet of $1700 to win $72. I dont play much cash, but I'd have thought TPTK with nut flush draw, v a maniac would be a hand most people would kill to get their money in with.
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November 30, 2005, 01:14:04 PM »
TUT ... saw the title of the thread and thought ....... ah well never mind
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November 30, 2005, 01:14:39 PM »
Quote from: Junior on November 30, 2005, 12:09:56 PM
Quote from: MrMoves on November 30, 2005, 11:13:07 AM
.... lay downs that is. What is your best ever lay down?
I was playing a cash session last night 2/4 NLHE short handed. Maniac to my right had built up my $400 nicely to $997. He makes his standard x2 raise, I call with AQspades in the SB. BB re-raises to $24. Maniac calls, I see a flop.
Q,7,2 - 2 spades. Nut flush draw and TPTK.
Pre-flop reraiser moves all-in for $1700. Maniac folds. I fold, he shows KK - one spade.
Alright, it's not an amazing lay down, and if I only had $50 left I would of called him, fish like me rarely fold so any lay down might be considered 'great'
What about you guys?
there's no way i would pass this hand! - i reckon i'd be favourite - gonna run it on cp and come back with the answer
What is this "CP" of which you speak?
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MrMoves
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Re: Great lays
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November 30, 2005, 01:17:47 PM »
Quote from: Pokerron on November 30, 2005, 01:11:07 PM
Quote from: MrMoves on November 30, 2005, 12:24:38 PM
Of course if a Q, A or Spade hits it's party time but I'm not really getting great odds - calling my stack, about $970 into a pot of $1042 (I think). He did hold a spade too (he showed the Kings) which decreased my chances a little further.
On a different day, with a small stack, I would of been in for it.
I think its a decent laydown because you had only invested $24 into the pot and were facing a OTT bet of $1700 to win $72. I dont play much cash, but I'd have thought TPTK with nut flush draw, v a maniac would be a hand most people would kill to get their money in with.
This was a different maniac!
- strangely he'd been very solid before this occured, I guess he wanted to end the hand then and there.
If it was matey boy I would of called. Mainly because he only had $250 left and he was a nutter >:?
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November 30, 2005, 01:18:57 PM »
CP = 'Card Player' I believe (odds calculator on their site)
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