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Title: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Pyso on July 14, 2009, 06:41:31 PM
In his book, 'Ace On The River', Barry Greenstein says that he's had a winning session 75% of the time when playing live no limit cash poker.

What do we think of this - is this the best we can hope for?
Do any Blondes do better?
Is the reality for most winning players nearer 55%, 60%, 65% or 70% ?

I'm just curious after going over my data and seeing a win rate that is very acceptable but not as high as 75%. (Interestingly, Barry does say that he only wins about half the time in the high stakes games where the standard of players is better).

It seems to me, and I wonder if blondes agree, that the real key is not so much this 'winning percentage', but making your winning sessions larger than your losing ones (ie knowing when to fold and when to quit a session).


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Kar l on July 14, 2009, 06:59:48 PM
He's a massive nit so i'm not suprised


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: ACE2M on July 14, 2009, 07:05:35 PM
i fully beleive him, couple of blokes who play my local dealers choice who hardly ever lose, everyone is so bad there is no need to take risks with the better players.


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: The Camel on July 14, 2009, 07:13:36 PM
He's a massive nit so i'm not suprised

I am 99% sure Karl has a blonde account called "Dry'em".

If this poster isn't Karl I think he should be forced to use another name on here.


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: TightEnd on July 14, 2009, 07:14:41 PM
He's a massive nit so i'm not suprised

I am 99% sure Karl has a blonde account called "Dry'em".

If this poster isn't Karl I think he should be forced to use another name on here.

I agree. I have emailed Karl on a seperate address I know of to ascertain that this isn't the real Karl for sure


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Kar l on July 14, 2009, 07:19:59 PM
my name is Karl Mahrenholz also!

Edit: Strange that you wouldn't just ask me btw?  I would've told you I have the same name as him


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: bolt pp on July 14, 2009, 07:20:55 PM
I'm Karl Mahrenholz


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: TightEnd on July 14, 2009, 07:25:08 PM
my name is Karl Mahrenholz also!

Edit: Strange that you wouldn't just ask me btw?  I would've told you I have the same name as him

not really strange when we get regular joke/imposter/fake accounts. I'm hardly likely to assume you have the same very distinctive name am I?

 



Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Kar l on July 14, 2009, 07:27:08 PM
Change my name to: 'Karl Mahrenholz (No not that one)' then please :)


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: bolt pp on July 14, 2009, 07:27:36 PM
ban him for having a fake account, or cracking wise with you, or saying greenstein was a nit or posting at exactly 6:59:48.


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: TightEnd on July 14, 2009, 07:28:15 PM
Change my name to: 'Karl Mahrenholz (No not that one)' then please :)

Lets compromise on Karl M please




Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Kar l on July 14, 2009, 07:28:41 PM
Ok, no problem


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: TightEnd on July 14, 2009, 07:30:01 PM
thank you

if you aren't really called Karl Mahrenholz, I'll find you, wherever you are!  ;nemesis; :D


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: The Camel on July 14, 2009, 07:30:43 PM
my name is Karl Mahrenholz also!

Edit: Strange that you wouldn't just ask me btw?  I would've told you I have the same name as him

Not really strange.

1. I have lived 41 years and never heard of anyone with the surname Mahrenholz except the famous one, quite a conincidence if the second one I come across is also called "Karl".

2. I would guess less than 1% of posters on here use their name as their username on blonde.

Weighing up the evidence I suggest you are lying and you aren't really called Karl Mahrenholz.


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Kar l on July 14, 2009, 07:31:32 PM
Pleased to meet you, glad to come aboard!


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: bolt pp on July 14, 2009, 07:31:42 PM
fck that, dont have it.!!!!

i went to the doctors and they said i was giving the wrong date of birth, then the woman realised they had two people at the surgery with my name, did i comprimise with her when she asked me to shorten my second name? did i fuck, i hit her round the head with her computer keypad and said: "shorten that bitch"!


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Kar l on July 14, 2009, 07:33:43 PM
my name is Karl Mahrenholz also!

Edit: Strange that you wouldn't just ask me btw?  I would've told you I have the same name as him

Not really strange.

1. I have lived 41 years and never heard of anyone with the surname Mahrenholz except the famous one, quite a conincidence if the second one I come across is also called "Karl".

2. I would guess less than 1% of posters on here use their name as their username on blonde.

Weighing up the evidence I suggest you are lying and you aren't really called Karl Mahrenholz.

Do you want me to send you my birth certificate Sherlock? :)


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: The Camel on July 14, 2009, 07:36:26 PM
my name is Karl Mahrenholz also!

Edit: Strange that you wouldn't just ask me btw?  I would've told you I have the same name as him

Not really strange.

1. I have lived 41 years and never heard of anyone with the surname Mahrenholz except the famous one, quite a conincidence if the second one I come across is also called "Karl".

2. I would guess less than 1% of posters on here use their name as their username on blonde.

Weighing up the evidence I suggest you are lying and you aren't really called Karl Mahrenholz.

Do you want me to send you my birth certificate Sherlock? :)

ship it.


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: gatso on July 14, 2009, 07:37:32 PM
put a scan of you birth cert up here

you should probs black out the name though to stop identity theft


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Kar l on July 14, 2009, 07:39:45 PM
Anyway, Greenstein is a nit


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: TightEnd on July 14, 2009, 07:41:22 PM
Anyway, Greenstein is a nit

you said.

please take a look round the forum, assess the mood and the style of posting

then look at these

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=25383.0

then think again

ta


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: byronkincaid on July 14, 2009, 07:42:48 PM
book was written pre durrr



Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: celtic on July 14, 2009, 07:43:39 PM
Anyway, Greekstein is a fish

FYP


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Kar l on July 14, 2009, 07:46:53 PM
Anyway, Greenstein is a nit

you said.

please take a look round the forum, assess the mood and the style of posting

then look at these

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=25383.0

then think again

ta

WOW, JUST WOW

I was trying to get back to the original topic of the thread, and was hoping to get some debate stimulated.  Oh well


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: The Camel on July 14, 2009, 07:47:45 PM
Saw Greenstein playing blackjack at the Bellagio last night.

If there was one pro I wouldn't have expected to play table games it was him.



Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: bolt pp on July 14, 2009, 07:49:44 PM
ban


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: AndrewT on July 14, 2009, 07:52:57 PM
Saw Greenstein playing blackjack at the Bellagio last night.

If there was one pro I wouldn't have expected to play table games it was him.

Oriental female dealer, I'll bet.


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: MC on July 14, 2009, 07:55:09 PM
my name is Karl Mahrenholz also!

Edit: Strange that you wouldn't just ask me btw?  I would've told you I have the same name as him

Not really strange.

1. I have lived 41 years and never heard of anyone with the surname Mahrenholz except the famous one, quite a conincidence if the second one I come across is also called "Karl".

2. I would guess less than 1% of posters on here use their name as their username on blonde.

Weighing up the evidence I suggest you are lying and you aren't really called Karl Mahrenholz.

Lol@this

I'm with Keith until proven wrong!


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Kar l on July 14, 2009, 08:00:40 PM
What happened to innocent until proven guilty!

Anyway, does Greenstein actually play the highest stake games other than when on HSP?  If he plays peasant stakes and does it mainly for the fun aspect as he is set for life already, then maybe he does win 75% of the time.


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: xxMAIRxx on July 14, 2009, 08:03:37 PM
People who play low stakes are peasants?


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: bolt pp on July 14, 2009, 08:06:33 PM
probably drug addicts as well, 8 tabling their way straight to cracktown.




Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Pyso on July 14, 2009, 08:09:09 PM
..er.. can we get this thread back on track please?!!


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: The Camel on July 14, 2009, 08:11:04 PM
People who play low stakes are peasants?

obv


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: gatso on July 14, 2009, 08:11:37 PM
..er.. can we get this thread back on track please?!!

unlikely tbh


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: bolt pp on July 14, 2009, 08:14:46 PM
..er.. can we get this thread back on track please?!!

yep, no more distractions

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cM2rTI5gLI8/SZBlwaMV_mI/AAAAAAAAHoU/g1g4lsRvMW0/s400/05%2BSheyla%2BHershey%2BRecord-Breaking%2B38KKK%2BWorld%25E2%2580%2599s%2BLargest%2BBreasts%2Bwww.GutterUncensored.com%2B18.jpg)


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Royal Flush on July 14, 2009, 08:15:50 PM
People who play low stakes are peasants?

People who play peasant stakes are.


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: pokerfan on July 14, 2009, 08:17:38 PM
People who play low stakes are peasants?
Would you expect to find a peasant playing high stakes?


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Longy on July 14, 2009, 08:18:04 PM
People who play low stakes are peasants?

I prefer to use the phrase scum.


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: gatso on July 14, 2009, 08:23:03 PM
what happened to junglecat's thread about his hamper? did he ever get round to having the pheasant steaks?


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: bolt pp on July 14, 2009, 08:49:12 PM
what happened to junglecat's thread about his hamper? did he ever get round to having the pheasant steaks?

did spacefrog ever make his breakfast


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Karabiner on July 14, 2009, 08:58:17 PM
Saw Greenstein playing blackjack at the Bellagio last night.

If there was one pro I wouldn't have expected to play table games it was him.



The only time I ever saw him at The Vic he was playing BJ there too, I must admit to having been slightly surprised also.

IIRC he had a rather nice Oriental lady companion at the time.


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: outragous76 on July 14, 2009, 10:28:03 PM
..er.. can we get this thread back on track please?!!

yep, no more distractions

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cM2rTI5gLI8/SZBlwaMV_mI/AAAAAAAAHoU/g1g4lsRvMW0/s400/05%2BSheyla%2BHershey%2BRecord-Breaking%2B38KKK%2BWorld%25E2%2580%2599s%2BLargest%2BBreasts%2Bwww.GutterUncensored.com%2B18.jpg)


is this karl marenholz too?

no way is there more than 1. Especially more than 1 that plays poker.



Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: GreekStein on July 14, 2009, 11:15:10 PM
Why can't he be called Karl Marenholz?

I have 3 good mates all with that name


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: bolt pp on July 14, 2009, 11:18:05 PM
I have 3 good mates all with that name


 ::)



Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: riverdave on July 15, 2009, 01:19:39 AM
I know a Karl Mahrenholz who is a high ranking Chief Inspector....


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: 810ofclubs on July 15, 2009, 01:23:52 AM
i prefer dirty scum


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: AlexMartin on July 15, 2009, 01:46:31 AM
only morons use their real name on blonde. and 100% u aint no karl mahrenholz, camel spks the truth.


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Dry em on July 15, 2009, 01:59:26 AM
You'd be better off with the name James Akenhead imo, worth much more ;o)


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: The Camel on July 15, 2009, 02:32:20 AM
You'd be better off with the name James Akenhead imo, worth much more ;o)

I know 72 James Akenhead's.


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Kar l on July 15, 2009, 07:52:09 AM
What's your nickname Dry'em?  Mines Holzy


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: boldie on July 15, 2009, 08:05:44 AM
We do all agree Greenstein is a nit though, right?


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: bhoywonder on July 15, 2009, 08:21:15 AM
I AM SPARTACUS


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Dry em on July 15, 2009, 11:50:38 AM
What's your nickname Dry'em?  Mines Holzy

hmm


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: littlemissC on July 15, 2009, 01:28:59 PM
I know a Karl Mahrenholz who is a high ranking Chief Inspector....
rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao me too


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: Steve Swift on July 15, 2009, 01:35:32 PM
I am Karl, and so is my wife ;nana;


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: pokerfan on July 15, 2009, 03:08:09 PM
I am Karl, and so is my wife ;nana;
Maybe you should have another feel mate, just to make sure.


Title: Re: Is Barry Greenstein on the money?
Post by: gasman on July 23, 2009, 07:56:30 PM
I know a Karl Mahrenholz who is a high ranking Chief Inspector....

small world