Title: What To Do... Post by: snoopy1239 on December 04, 2005, 01:58:08 PM $200 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, December 04, 07:58:24 EDT 2005
Seat 5 is the button Total number of players : 10 Seat 1: Daredevil424 ( $208.10 ) Seat 2: Dragonette1 ( $168.35 ) Seat 3: MndnckValley ( $408.15 ) Seat 5: Pavel55 ( $188.95 ) Seat 6: DaFuttBucker ( $329.90 ) Seat 7: roundman ( $149.50 ) Seat 8: TVHDK ( $412.53 ) Seat 9: rudebwoy222 ( $61.97 ) Seat 10: CapYourAss ( $204.50 ) Seat 4: snoopy1239 ( $200 ) DaFuttBucker posts small blind [$1]. roundman posts big blind [$2]. snoopy1239 posts big blind [$2]. ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to snoopy1239 [ As Js ] TVHDK folds. rudebwoy222 folds. Daredevil424 raises [$8]. MndnckValley folds. snoopy1239 calls [$6]. Pavel55 folds. DaFuttBucker folds. roundman folds. ** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 3h, Ad ] Daredevil424 checks. snoopy1239 bets [$7]. Daredevil424 raises [$25]. snoopy1239 calls [$18]. ** Dealing Turn ** [ Kd ] Daredevil424 bets [$40]. What would you do now? How would you have played the hand leading up to the turn? Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: ifm on December 04, 2005, 02:11:09 PM Interesting one this, i think you are behind now.......i'd say he has either a high ace or a high pair so you're in a world of hurt.
I'd like to say fold but it's hard to do it!! I would have played it the same as you did, the King is a killer card though. Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: snoopy1239 on December 04, 2005, 02:14:24 PM Just as a note, this was the very first hand I played on the table, so I knew nothing about my opponent.
Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: jezza777 on December 04, 2005, 02:41:27 PM This is very tough. he had raised from EP so we should give him credit for a decent hand, then he check raises you on the flop . I think you flop bet is a little weak here and he may of read it as that and has decided that as an EP raiser he can represent a monster here ( or he actually has one) . He bets the full pot this shows knowledge of the game. The only hands you are losing to at this point are pocket 3's pocket aces or pocket jacks. i dont think he has pocket 3's from his position though iy must be considered. aces and jacks are possible but unlikley given your holding. I think you should reraise here as you are likley to be ahead.
The turn is a nasty nasty card he now bets 40 into a pot of around 70, is this a bet because he is 1st to act and doesnt want to be bet off the hand? it could well be. if you call will he check the river? or rmove in? If you call this turn bet you could vwey well be playing for all of your chips. I think a fold is the right answer but I know that I could not do it , I would check call al the way. to me his most likley holding here is KK your bet on the flop looks to me like a bet with a weakish ace and tho he is behind he feels that he can represent a higher kicker than you or even AJ . Although i say you should have reraised the flop i appreciate that you have top 2 pair and are looking very good at this point , i only say reraise cos I know the K is coming on the turn. I would have played this the same as you but my bet on the flop would have been the full pot. please dont tell me he had q 10 suited Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: snoopy1239 on December 04, 2005, 02:48:19 PM He's in relatively late postion.
He's seat 1, I'm seat 4. I wanted him to think my flop bet was weak so he would raise. I called because I was tyring to trap him, not because I was worried about what he had. I think if I was worried about his hand, I might have considered reraising to find out how strong he actually was. The problem was the king on the turn. Possibly the worst possible card. This would mean that KK, QT, AK has just outdrawn me. The 1st and latter being very possible holdings. It's a very tough 1 mi thinks. I used all my time to make my decision. Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: ifm on December 04, 2005, 02:55:20 PM Go on then tell me the result, or PM me with it cuz i'm off to Walsall in a bit :)
Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: jezza777 on December 04, 2005, 03:07:43 PM He is 4th to act ? you are in the cutoff? thats not late pos its early / mid. Am I right here - I'm rubbish at reading hand histiories.
Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: snoopy1239 on December 04, 2005, 03:11:31 PM I'm big blind. He's in the cut-off.
HH says 'snoopy1239 posts big blind'. The 4 is my seat number from the dealer. I think you're getting old... ;tk; ::) Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: ifm on December 04, 2005, 03:18:54 PM Erm i think it's snoop that's getting old, seat 6 is SB, 7 is BB.......snoop is seat 4!!!!!
Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: Nem on December 04, 2005, 03:19:36 PM I think he has AK
Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: ifm on December 04, 2005, 03:20:00 PM you posted the blind as a new sitter
Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: jezza777 on December 04, 2005, 03:23:26 PM Ok I am still confused tho HH says
DaFuttBucker posts small blind [$1]. roundman posts big blind [$2]. snoopy1239 posts big blind [$2]. I assume you post out of bb cos it was your 1st hand. anyway enough of my poor hand history reading. If he is later in the action then we can expand his rangq which causes even more of an headache KK is less likley, his raise is strong which indicated weakness to me KK generally wants a call in a cash game. AK is a strong possibility and now Qt rears its ugly head as a potential stealing hand. I think he has Qd Td Do I get a prize? You know what he might even have ace 3 and thinks he is ahead after trying a steal and hitting 2 pair now he is deep into the pot he cant face putting it down and is hoping he is still ahead. You call and the river is a 3 yeah? Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: snoopy1239 on December 04, 2005, 03:32:47 PM ifm's right.
I'm having a senior moment and fully retract any previous mocking. :blonde: I forgot that this was my first hand and that when it says I post the big blind, that it's because I've only just sat down. Soz all. ps. ifm is actually quite old. -- ducks for cover -- Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: jezza777 on December 04, 2005, 03:37:31 PM LOL snoop I actually got a piece of paper and did a diagram !! :D
Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: snoopy1239 on December 04, 2005, 03:41:52 PM LOL snoop I actually got a piece of paper and did a diagram !! :D Please tell me that you're joking... :D I guess we need to get out a little more. You sure you've got a girlfriend?! :D :D Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: Nem on December 04, 2005, 03:42:07 PM LOL snoop I actually got a piece of paper and did a diagram !! :D LOL Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: jezza777 on December 04, 2005, 03:47:11 PM LOL snoop I actually got a piece of paper and did a diagram !!
Please tell me that you're joking... I guess we need to get out a little more. You sure you've got a girlfriend?! I only wish I was M8 Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: NoflopsHomer on December 04, 2005, 03:48:01 PM Re-raise the flop. The only hands you're behind to are AA and JJ, and he is very unlikely to have either of them, if if he did, surely he'd wait til the turn before raising and therefore smooth call your flop bet. To check-raise on an ace high flop which he has raised preflop is odd, and it's hard to think which hands he might do that with. Therefore re-raising is a must, you don't have a totally clear indication on his hand.
Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: snoopy1239 on December 04, 2005, 03:50:58 PM Re-raise the flop. The only hands you're behind to are AA and JJ, and he is very unlikely to have either of them, if if he did, surely he'd wait til the turn before raising and therefore smooth call your flop bet. To check-raise on an ace high flop which he has raised preflop is odd, and it's hard to think which hands he might do that with. Therefore re-raising is a must, you don't have a totally clear indication on his hand. Well, because I didn't think he had AA or JJ, I smooth called his preflop raise. I thought he had something like AQ or AK and didn't want to lose my customer. If a blank comes, then I should be able to extract some more dosh. If I reraise the flop, then he's gonna realise that I'm not messing around. Unfortunately, the king came on the turn. Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: jezza777 on December 04, 2005, 03:58:11 PM Slightly off topic snoop but how do you pick a table to sit at? Do you watch the action for a bit to get a handle on some of the players?
Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: NoflopsHomer on December 04, 2005, 04:01:32 PM Looking from the betting, it's also perfectly possible he has AJ too.
Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: jezza777 on December 04, 2005, 04:29:51 PM Come on then tell us! I'm taking kerry out soon .
Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: snoopy1239 on December 04, 2005, 04:31:54 PM Come on then tell us! I'm taking kerry out soon . you mean outside?!?! Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: jezza777 on December 04, 2005, 04:34:10 PM I know scary huh? Too much poker time and not enough girlfriend time lately.
Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: snoopy1239 on December 04, 2005, 04:36:36 PM I don't know what he had.
I folded. Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: jezza777 on December 04, 2005, 04:38:28 PM Good fold.
Title: Re: What To Do... Post by: ifm on December 05, 2005, 12:10:07 AM ifm's right. ps. ifm is actually quite old. Why you little........................ :tikay: ;tk; |