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Title: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: AlexMartin on August 20, 2009, 12:38:11 PM Villain is somewhat spewy fish but thinks before acting. This was early in the session when i was establishing some crazyness. What u reckon to this line and what would his calling range be?
***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 564852512 ***** NL $2.50/$5 Texas Hold'em - Thursday, August 20, 09:49:14 GMT 2009 Table Nitrogen 37 6-max (Real Money) Seat 5 is the button Total number of active players : 6 Seat 1: mrpotty ( $506.90 ) Seat 2: river ( $210.50 ) Seat 3: Ringive ( $251.85 ) Seat 4: JammyJenny ( $786.13 ) Seat 5: Zizou06 ( $517.50 ) Seat 6: banker11 ( $252.90 ) banker11 posts small blind [$2.50] mrpotty posts big blind [$5] ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to JammyJenny [ 4s, 7s ] river folds Ringive calls [$5] JammyJenny raises to [$22.50] Zizou06 folds banker11 folds mrpotty folds Ringive calls [$17.50] ** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, Qc, Jc ] Ringive checks JammyJenny bets [$35] Ringive raises to [$70] JammyJenny calls [$35] ** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ] Ringive checks JammyJenny checks ** Dealing River ** [ 3s ] Ringive bets [$60] JammyJenny raises to [$180] Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: TightEnd on August 20, 2009, 12:39:34 PM LOL
when i was establishing some crazyness. SOME CRAZYNESS? Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: StuartHopkin on August 20, 2009, 01:28:25 PM Never played at these stakes or even like this, but I think im calling here with the 8c or better?
Why would you check behind the turn, if you had the Ac or Kc when he has already shown a willingness to get his money in? Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: boldie on August 20, 2009, 01:41:42 PM 9c + sounds about right.
Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: jakally on August 20, 2009, 02:41:22 PM Raise more on the river. If it's a blocker bet, he may still call due to size of raise vs size of pot. Think the river move is fine. With a bigger raise you get rid of all bluffs and blockers, and only get called by a big club. Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: EvilPie on August 20, 2009, 02:48:33 PM Raise more on the river. If it's a blocker bet, he may still call due to size of raise vs size of pot. Think the river move is fine. With a bigger raise you get rid of all bluffs and blockers, and only get called by a big club. The raise has set him all in. Raising more will probably not change the outcome of the hand. Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: EvilPie on August 20, 2009, 02:58:49 PM WTF's all this "I need the 4th nuts to call?
It's $120 to win about $420. It's doubtful Alex value raises anything other than the A or K so if you call with the 9c or 8c you're only beating a bluff anyway. Set or more would do me here tyvm. EDIT: Scrap that - Top pair with a bit of a kicker. Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: GreekStein on August 20, 2009, 03:15:25 PM Raise more on the river. If it's a blocker bet, he may still call due to size of raise vs size of pot. Think the river move is fine. With a bigger raise you get rid of all bluffs and blockers, and only get called by a big club. Which is why this looks like such a valuebet!! Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: SuperJez on August 20, 2009, 03:25:18 PM You rep the Aclubs well. it looks to me like he flopped a big hand tho (very likely a flush and if he is a fish he will just click call)
Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: EvilPie on August 20, 2009, 04:08:01 PM It just looks like a gamble call to me.
3.5 to 1 as to whether Alex has the A or K of clubs. The way the hand plays doesn't suggest this to me. If he's valuetowned my light call with a straight or low club then well played him. Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: George2Loose on August 20, 2009, 04:17:20 PM You rep the Aclubs well. it looks to me like he flopped a big hand tho (very likely a flush and if he is a fish he will just click call) This- I like your line but if he has any club he's calling Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: jakally on August 20, 2009, 04:55:07 PM Raise more on the river. If it's a blocker bet, he may still call due to size of raise vs size of pot. Think the river move is fine. With a bigger raise you get rid of all bluffs and blockers, and only get called by a big club. The raise has set him all in. Raising more will probably not change the outcome of the hand. Oops! Misread. Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: jakally on August 20, 2009, 04:57:59 PM Raise more on the river. If it's a blocker bet, he may still call due to size of raise vs size of pot. Think the river move is fine. With a bigger raise you get rid of all bluffs and blockers, and only get called by a big club. Which is why this looks like such a valuebet!! It looks like a value bet, but it doesn't stop people sigh-calling. Think it's still ok and prob. just +EV. Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: WellChief on August 20, 2009, 05:27:37 PM This is v bad. You really don't rep the Ac well at all as you'd be shoving over his flop bet with AcXs given his stack size, as you would be with all your made hands. Only hand that makes sense for you here is if you flopped the nut flush, so can imagine you getting looked up pretty light. Floating flop is big spew here, as is isolating a 50BB stack with this hand.
Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: MC on August 20, 2009, 05:39:21 PM This is a little creative for me. Surely just fold on the flop. I don't like being in a pot with exactly 0 cards to improve our hand.
Your specifically repping an Ace of clubs, you wouldn't check the turn then check raise the river with the King. It's kinda convincing but it's also a bit suspicious. If he's a spewy fish, he's calling with most clubs on the river I reckon. Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: AlexMartin on August 20, 2009, 06:20:56 PM This is a little creative for me. Surely just fold on the flop. I don't like being in a pot with exactly 0 cards to improve our hand. Your specifically repping an Ace of clubs, you wouldn't check the turn then check raise the river with the King. It's kinda convincing but it's also a bit suspicious. If he's a spewy fish, he's calling with most clubs on the river I reckon. i dont cr his bet, i just raised his river. not a huge thing but def changes things a little..... Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: Dubai on August 20, 2009, 10:19:03 PM This is v bad. You really don't rep the Ac well at all as you'd be shoving over his flop bet with AcXs given his stack size, as you would be with all your made hands. Only hand that makes sense for you here is if you flopped the nut flush, so can imagine you getting looked up pretty light. Floating flop is big spew here, as is isolating a 50BB stack with this hand. This. Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: MC on August 20, 2009, 10:58:27 PM This is a little creative for me. Surely just fold on the flop. I don't like being in a pot with exactly 0 cards to improve our hand. Your specifically repping an Ace of clubs, you wouldn't check the turn then check raise the river with the King. It's kinda convincing but it's also a bit suspicious. If he's a spewy fish, he's calling with most clubs on the river I reckon. i dont cr his bet, i just raised his river. not a huge thing but def changes things a little..... Ah, my bad. Think everything still applies the same though mate. I think this is a spot where you get crying called a lot. You expect either to see an Ace of clubs or air. But the chance of air encourages you to crying call. Title: Re: I float teh turn v a polarised range.... Post by: titaniumbean on August 21, 2009, 06:03:56 PM I think i'd rather fire turn and river to move him off a small club rather than do it giving him such good odds on the river.
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