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« on: August 20, 2009, 12:38:11 PM »

Villain is somewhat spewy fish but thinks before acting. This was early in the session when i was establishing some crazyness. What u reckon to this line and what would his calling range be?

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NL $2.50/$5 Texas Hold'em - Thursday, August 20, 09:49:14 GMT 2009
Table Nitrogen 37 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: mrpotty ( $506.90 )
Seat 2: river ( $210.50 )
Seat 3: Ringive ( $251.85 )
Seat 4: JammyJenny ( $786.13 )
Seat 5: Zizou06 ( $517.50 )
Seat 6: banker11 ( $252.90 )
banker11 posts small blind [$2.50]
mrpotty posts big blind [$5]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JammyJenny [ , ]
river folds
Ringive calls [$5]
JammyJenny raises to [$22.50]
Zizou06 folds
banker11 folds
mrpotty folds
Ringive calls [$17.50]
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
Ringive checks
JammyJenny bets [$35]
Ringive raises to [$70]
JammyJenny calls [$35]
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
Ringive checks
JammyJenny checks
** Dealing River ** [ ]
Ringive bets [$60]
JammyJenny raises to [$180]
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2009, 12:39:34 PM »

LOL

when i was establishing some crazyness.



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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2009, 01:28:25 PM »

Never played at these stakes or even like this, but I think im calling here with the  or better?

Why would you check behind the turn, if you had the  or  when he has already shown a willingness to get his money in?
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2009, 01:41:42 PM »

+ sounds about right.
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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2009, 02:41:22 PM »


Raise more on the river.
If it's a blocker bet, he may still call due to size of raise vs size of pot.

Think the river move is fine.
With a bigger raise you get rid of all bluffs and blockers, and only get called by a big club.
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2009, 02:48:33 PM »


Raise more on the river.
If it's a blocker bet, he may still call due to size of raise vs size of pot.

Think the river move is fine.
With a bigger raise you get rid of all bluffs and blockers, and only get called by a big club.

The raise has set him all in. Raising more will probably not change the outcome of the hand.
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2009, 02:58:49 PM »

WTF's all this "I need the 4th nuts to call?

It's $120 to win about $420.

It's doubtful Alex value raises anything other than the A or K so if you call with the   or   you're only beating a bluff anyway.

Set or more would do me here tyvm.

EDIT: Scrap that - Top pair with a bit of a kicker.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2009, 03:15:25 PM »


Raise more on the river.
If it's a blocker bet, he may still call due to size of raise vs size of pot.

Think the river move is fine.
With a bigger raise you get rid of all bluffs and blockers, and only get called by a big club.

Which is why this looks like such a valuebet!!
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2009, 03:25:18 PM »

You rep the Aclubs well.  it looks to me like he flopped a big hand tho (very likely a flush and if he is a fish he will just click call)
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2009, 04:08:01 PM »

It just looks like a gamble call to me.

3.5 to 1 as to whether Alex has the A or K of clubs. The way the hand plays doesn't suggest this to me.

If he's valuetowned my light call with a straight or low club then well played him.
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2009, 04:17:20 PM »

You rep the Aclubs well.  it looks to me like he flopped a big hand tho (very likely a flush and if he is a fish he will just click call)


This- I like your line but if he has any club he's calling
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2009, 04:55:07 PM »


Raise more on the river.
If it's a blocker bet, he may still call due to size of raise vs size of pot.

Think the river move is fine.
With a bigger raise you get rid of all bluffs and blockers, and only get called by a big club.

The raise has set him all in. Raising more will probably not change the outcome of the hand.

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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2009, 04:57:59 PM »


Raise more on the river.
If it's a blocker bet, he may still call due to size of raise vs size of pot.

Think the river move is fine.
With a bigger raise you get rid of all bluffs and blockers, and only get called by a big club.

Which is why this looks like such a valuebet!!

It looks like a value bet, but it doesn't stop people sigh-calling.
Think it's still ok and prob. just +EV.

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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2009, 05:27:37 PM »

This is v bad.  You really don't rep the well at all as you'd be shoving over his flop bet with AcXs given his stack size, as you would be with all your made hands.  Only hand that makes sense for you here is if you flopped the nut flush, so can imagine you getting looked up pretty light.  Floating flop is big spew here, as is isolating a 50BB stack with this hand.
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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2009, 05:39:21 PM »

This is a little creative for me. Surely just fold on the flop. I don't like being in a pot with exactly 0 cards to improve our hand.

Your specifically repping an Ace of clubs, you wouldn't check the turn then check raise the river with the King. It's kinda convincing but it's also a bit suspicious.

If he's a spewy fish, he's calling with most clubs on the river I reckon.
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