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David Weir. Why? I knopw the Caldwell's are out as well as Berra but surely there is somebody better than him/ He would be better off facing his own goal as he is getting turned every attack.
Don't think Alexander is the right choice in a must win game either.

Scotland not looking good at all

2-0 WD Scotland.

[ ] Watching the footie on Wednesday night at the Boldie residence will be a pleasant experience.

Much better 2nd half. I thought they were good value. Good luck against Holland. Will be tough without McFadden.

No a bad goal from mcfadden.

What you talking about? Weir is the best central defender Scotland have!

This,

 and I thought he played very well today too.

Geo

The better of two awful teams won. I thought both teams had 8 players how open the game was. They'll go smash a 2nd string Holland team now.

Wp Weir!

[ ] Holland will field a complete 2nd string
[ ] Scotland would beat a Holland second string if they defend like they did against Macedonia.

+1

What are you on mate?? completely agree with Boba Weir is Scotland best centre half.

That shambles in Norway would never have happened if we had Weir's experience. Go and watch ur ROI s****

If he's your best you've got problems. Got too tight to Pandev and was turned every attack. He's lucky to have Hutton  next to him to do his running.
Oh and nobody played very well for Scotland. If they did i'd be worried if they ever had bad or even average games.

That's because none of them are actually good players.

Unfortunately, he is the best we have, and unless you're blind we know we have problems.

Ever thought of doing mastermind?

Geo

lol...Jose's specialist subject "Great Scottish players of the last century"

Only 3 questions obv.

FYP lol

Geo

Nah are at least three ...you had  Kenny Dalgliesh, Archie Gemmil and Charlie Nicholas...although admittedly Archie Gemmil was over rated.

That's better

Geo

But Charlie played for Arsenal...well signed for them even. And he has an earring!

1 time Wednesday plz God tyvm.

Scotland win or big greasefire in whatever soulless Edinburgh commuter town boldie lives in. Happy with either but not both.

Peter Marinello.............done it all a decade before and was a far better player, bit of a lad too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Marinello

frank macvennie played for a better team and looked like his twin brother

law, dalgleish, johnstone, murdoch, baxter, mcgrain, cooper,

real world class..the list goes on and on....

Do scotland have to beat holland to have any hope of making the playoffs ?

I actually thought Scotland had a great 2nd half, the best I can remember us playing under Burley.  We ripped them apart quite a few times in the 2nd half.  Defence was a bit dodgy as Gordon was called into action a few times but it still looked much more solid than when Weir isnt there.

Weir has to play, he does get turned occaisionally and isnt great with fast strikers running at him, but you can see his experience breeds a calmness and confidence throughout the back 4 and he does his best until Hutton or McManus can help him out.  Against Norway the strikers were gone before Hutton could get across to help.

I thought Whitaker was excellent aslo, he surely must start ahead of Davidson.  Still dunno why Alexander played, I think Hartley can do a better job there, is a better player and has more experience.

Against Holland Id like to see Gordon, Hutton, Weir, McManus/G.Caldwell, Whitaker, Hartley, D.Fletcher, Brown, Maloney, Miller, S.Fletcher/O'Connor

yeah.

I expect Scotland to be leading 1-0 untill the final minute of the game when we'll get a fluke goal and draw the game.

the above is my dream scenario, really.

either that or hump them 5-0 :)

putting OF differences aside, i thought hutton and whittaker were both excellent. but i have to say i think kenny miller is absolutely dreadful.

 rotflmfao rotflmfao  stick to the gee gee's

I'm no Kenny Miller fan but I thought he was good in the second half, somehow found a first touch and held the ball up well.

If we play like we did in the second half against holland we have a chance, if we play like we did in the first half we'll get gubbed 5-0. Was good to see Burley getting a reaction out of them after HT though, hopefully we carry it through to wednesday.

Holland beat Japan 3-0 after a woeful game yesterday..the coach has told them to never ever play that bad again or they won't be selected.

GG Scotland :)

keep writing us off...its just what we need.

in uw oog nederlander.....

:)

CMON SCOTLAND


That is all

what a chance!!!!!!!

Best 45 minutes from us in a long long time although not quite the results of the French games.

Scored once and ruled offside, wrongly. Hit the bar  and missed a great chance.

Sandy

Yes best 45 mins in a very very long time.

Scotland can be proud

fk pride, lets win a plane ticket

come on we can do this one time

ball

net

back of

who scored?

it's 0-0

aaarrrgghhh

close!

No one posting ??

Did someone score kev?

 ;booder;

lampard

Burley to go?

Not sure what anyone else would do better......

fuck

Bryan Gunn is Scottish.

Gained a bit of pride from the game but not the points needed (typical Scotland).

Annoyingly if we'd played that well against the other teams we'd have got 2nd easilly.

At least you will be represented at the World Cup ... you will get a referee there ;)

A very Scottish demise!!

It wasn't tonight that cost us though, it was the 1-0 defeat in Macedonia and the 0-0 draw with Norway at Hampden, where was tonight's effort and appetite in those games?

Burley must go though,third place in this group is failure. As for who to replace him, not my choice, but Gordon Strachan must be in with a shout if he wants the job.

and some pundits

Strachan was the one that immediately sprung to mind for me. Will Scotland deffo go for a homegrown manager again, given the Bertie Vogts disaster?

Shame though scotland at the world cup would have been good for the tournament

potm

Of course we want a homegrown managers. It should be a rule that managers should be from the country they manage, the same as the players. Seems daft to me that this isnt the rule. English will disagree though since there has never been a good manager to come from England hence they need to go elsewhere

Jim Traynor not pulling any punches on Sportsound right now.

Got to be Strachan now.

Here we go!


I'll start you off with Sir Robert Robson and Sir Alf Ramsey

Mr Brian Clough the greatest club manager in British football ever.

Eh, noo.

Sir alex ferguson.

And look how far back u's need to think to remember a good manager

Graham Taylor

your homegrown managers sure do get you to a lot of finals

Clough took a 2nd division side (Forest) to become twice European champions, Nottingham is the smallest city to ever have a European cup winning side. He won the league with Derby taken them from the 2nd division again.

The guy was a genius end of.

list of scottish world cup winning managers please

Thats cos we cant offer the money u do so they go to clubs.



Again ur going back in time Jock Stein made Celtic the first British club to win the European cup and he done it a full s2quad that lived within 20 miles of the stadium.

Name a good English manager in the last 20 years

Should he go after that performance though? I doubt Strachan would take the job & I doubt his style would suit international management. Just wondering whether sacking Burley after he's (finally) got us playing as a team would be a good idea?

FYP

Just creates an argument who is the best ever - Clough, Stein, Shankley, Paisley, Ferguson, Busby all have a claim for different and valid reasons.

lol. you can take rod out of the mods room but you can't take the mod out of rod

(paisley is the greatest btw)

haha Bilic, brilliant!!

Bilic - England have lost their Englishness since Capello has became manager

Media slaughter him

Bilic - No, losing Englishness is a good thing

hahahahahah

When did that happen?

Rodders not Paisley obv

Ugh at choosing Paisley he would be the worst out of that group for me, Shankley built that Liverpool team and made them the best in the country. Paisley just did a good solid job after that.

I see where you are coming from Rod but I wouldn't want to give him the opportunity to cock up the next campaign, this one has been a bit of a farce at times with the manager playing his part in it. There was a lot to like about tonight's performance but any player who couldn't get himself up for a game like that should pack it in. Also worth remembering is the Dutch did not play as they can, they were not desperate to win, they wanted to win but they weren't going to work too hard for it. Most of their players would have had one eye on being fit for club fixtures at the weekend. Another factor for Burley's future is that he doesn't seem to have too many friends at the SFA.

The main reason we failed though is we need all key players to be fit for every game, we have a decent 11 with everyone fit but there is not much quality beyond that. That won't change for the next manager so luck will remain as big factor.
I actually think Strachan would take the job but agree his style may not suit.

not long ago, apparently he got sacked cos he spat in kinboshi's tea

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=43930.0

"They are missing something, i cannot tell you what. It is our secret but we know"
You sure do Bilic!
English team, brimming with Englishness with a good leader going to the World Cup. Yes please.

but I picked him at random from that list so I must be right. I actually couldn't care less who it is but thought I'd better pick an english bloke cos they're the best

get it right he lumped boshi one when the tea boy spat in his tea

Peter Prentice
James Manclark

Liking the Walter Smith rumours, ideal man for the Scotland job IMO although I'd like to see him stay on at Rangers, that said he is looking ready to step down.

I don't think he should get a second chance, he quit before during a qualifying campaign.

He did quit for Rangers though so entirely forgivable IMO.  ;D

Seriously though I see your point but he got the most convincing displays from a Scotland team that I recall seeing for quite a few years, also very unlikely to leave a second time (unless McCoist and McDowell make a hideous mess of things at Ibrox).

Love this idea also, Sally in charge of the huns would be awesome!