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Title: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: EvilPie on September 08, 2009, 07:09:56 PM
Second level of DTD 300 so it's 50/100. I've got 9k having had a small accident.

BB is unbelievably aggro and also stupid. He's over betting a lot and squeezing everything. He recently bet 4k to win about 1200 and showed his bluff.

I've got  Qh Qs utg+1 so raise to 275. Next to act re raises to 575. Button makes it 1600, Stupid BB calls.

I decide that I'm now pretty much set mining so flat as does 3 bettor.

So there's 6400 in the pot to a flop of  Qd Js 4c

BB does his usual big bet open for 4k.

I shove for 7.5k

How lucky do I need to be to get stuck in a 3 way all in here?


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: maldini32 on September 08, 2009, 07:12:23 PM
saw this on the updates so i wont fck it up for u.  :)


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: celtic on September 08, 2009, 07:16:02 PM
fold pre


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: outragous76 on September 08, 2009, 08:35:15 PM
From my phone so dont know how this will come out.   
 
I agree fold pre. To set mine you want to be getting 20:1. Worst case 10:1 if late in a tourney. You are committing way too much to set mine here. Given that the 4 bettor is mr aggro you could argue to 5 bet commit (or just jam). Nothing wrong with folding pre for me. 


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: gatso on September 08, 2009, 08:36:57 PM
To set mine you want to be getting 20:1

que?


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: EvilPie on September 08, 2009, 08:52:30 PM
Oh man!!

Sometimes you can't even post a joke thread and get away with it.

Does someone seriously suggest folding this pre given the action? FFS!!!!



Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: kinboshi on September 08, 2009, 08:53:24 PM
Oh man!!

Sometimes you can't even post a joke thread and get away with it.

Does someone seriously suggest folding this pre given the action? FFS!!!!



The way you were running, I'd have shoved blind.


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: George2Loose on September 08, 2009, 08:54:18 PM
jacks and 10 9 and u held?


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: gatso on September 08, 2009, 08:56:48 PM
are we folding to the 3b or open folding?


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: Longy on September 08, 2009, 08:58:33 PM
To set mine you want to be getting 20:1

que?

I presume tb is getting at the point we need bigger implied odds , as we don't get villians stack every time, sometimes we get coolered etc. I normally go with 15 to 1 personally, all depends on villian's range and his post flop tendancies.


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: bolt pp on September 08, 2009, 09:01:17 PM
i still say fold pre


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: gatso on September 08, 2009, 09:01:49 PM
i still say fold pre

are we folding to the 3b or open folding?


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: EvilPie on September 08, 2009, 09:05:37 PM
FFS!!!!

I was only trying to even up the DTD 300 for Mantis cus everyone got it in bad.

Right I'm gonna double check what the betting actually was. It's in the update. Back soon.


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: gatso on September 08, 2009, 09:09:22 PM
chill matt, it's just the better players ribbing you

Post on PHA as often as possible but expect to get ribbed a lot by the better players. Believe me when people take the piss because you've done something it's because you really shouldn't have done it. If they are brutal then it's because it's a move you should never do again. Just learn and have a thick skin.


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: EvilPie on September 08, 2009, 09:09:55 PM
Ok so I made it 300.

Next to act made it 1200. Called in 3 spots so I call.

Better? 900 in to 5k ish + whatever I get after.

I still call if the action was as I originally said though. Especially as the Q was coming on the flop.


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: EvilPie on September 08, 2009, 09:10:28 PM
chill matt, it's just the better players ribbing you

Post on PHA as often as possible but expect to get ribbed a lot by the better players. Believe me when people take the piss because you've done something it's because you really shouldn't have done it. If they are brutal then it's because it's a move you should never do again. Just learn and have a thick skin.

 ;D


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: Blatch on September 08, 2009, 09:19:17 PM
I would never fold a pair pre with my money behind you


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: kinboshi on September 08, 2009, 09:21:35 PM
I would never fold a pair pre with my money behind you

This!!


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: George2Loose on September 08, 2009, 09:23:01 PM
I would never fold ever with my money behind you

FYP


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: Royal Flush on September 09, 2009, 03:22:24 AM
Obv in the hypothetical its a fold, as for set mining, in these spots i happily call getting 9-1 if i am closing the action as the oppo has a range of KK+ so you could just open ship everytime you flop a set and not worry.

As it happens you dont close the action, nor do you get the price to fold.


Obv in the real situation, i play as played.


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: celtic on September 09, 2009, 04:57:47 PM
Meh, you were lucky to hit your 2 outer v JJ, therefore my point of folding pre holds true. Bad call and you got lucky imo.


Title: Re: DTD 300 - Just for Mantis
Post by: EvilPie on September 09, 2009, 05:01:59 PM
Meh, you were lucky to hit your 2 outer v JJ, therefore my point of folding pre holds true. Bad call and you got lucky imo.

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Thanks Blatch.