Title: Space Cadets Post by: lazaroonie on December 09, 2005, 10:20:55 AM How funny is this ? Should we be harsh on the contestants ?
Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: AdamM on December 09, 2005, 10:25:57 AM I didnt watch it, is it good
Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: Heid on December 09, 2005, 10:32:50 AM I think what is even more funny is the fact that ITV4 screened CapricornOne directly after it last night!
I am middle of the road on it ... I am watching it, and I think the continuity they have going with the base looks fab, but I don't know how they are going to pull it off - I think that's the draw, people are going to watch to see if they manage to get away with it. The contestants are bloody annoying though! Heid xx Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: yt on December 09, 2005, 10:38:45 AM It's good because they are some of the most naive stupid people on TV. To be fair to make the concept work the producers 'had' to get volunteers with below average IQ.
The think they are in Russia on a military base but are really somewhere near Ipswich. They also think that in 3 weeks they can GASP! go into space! They were told last night this would be achieved in a plane type craft (NOT a rocket) and that they would not feel weightless because they were in a low earth orbit. Basically re-writing the laws of Gravity. Not one on them questioned this. Not one of them put there hand up and said "So we're going up in a plane? Not a rocket? and we won't be weightless? Hang on a minute, I did that on Easyjet last week!" Funny cos they are dim. It's car crash TV. Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: lazaroonie on December 09, 2005, 10:44:22 AM I think I read that the contestants were psychologically profiled beforehand for "suggestibility".
one question I have (I missed the start) - do they know they are being filmed all the time ? Do they know it is being broadcast on TV (although obviously not that it is a wind up) . ok thats two questions. I cant help think that there is going to be a sting in the tail - some machievellian twist at the end which will surprise the viewer. Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: Rod Paradise on December 09, 2005, 10:51:06 AM First question on the application form: Do you read Sci-fi?
If the answer's yes - bin the application..... How daft can people be? :D Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: AdamM on December 09, 2005, 10:52:48 AM I haven't watched it yet so they might well be as dumb as a bag of rocks but most likely its the white coat effect. you'd be suprised what above average IQ people will believe or agree to when an authority figure like a doctor/scientist tells them.
Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: yt on December 09, 2005, 11:02:33 AM I haven't watched it yet so they might well be as dumb as a bag of rocks but most likely its the white coat effect. you'd be suprised what above average IQ people will believe or agree to when an authority figure like a doctor/scientist tells them. I know what your saying and maybe its more to do with suggestibility and nativity than low IQ but still, believing you can go to space in a plane and not be weightless takes a special kind of stupid. Anyone who has watched sci-fi, read a book or looked at a space website will know that the simple stuff they have been told doesn't add up.Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: AdamM on December 09, 2005, 11:10:58 AM a special kind of stupid. thats the crux of it. that kind of stupid is the "I'd do anything to be on TV" effect. tell you what, it's almost worth doing a big brother type show just to get a crack at those celeb poker freeroll jobbies. 8) Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: Rod Paradise on December 09, 2005, 11:13:16 AM thats the crux of it. that kind of stupid is the "I'd do anything to be on TV" effect. tell you what, it's almost worth doing a big brother type show just to get a crack at those celeb poker freeroll jobbies. 8) True - if Tony feckin Cascarino can win £100K, mind you if it's free you can relax more I suppose... Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: Trace on December 09, 2005, 02:13:22 PM When first hearing about this series, I thought it would be gullible yanks (no offence meant), imagine my surprise when I realised they were British.
I did have this programme on last night, but to be honest the chat in VC lobby was more appealing. I take it the actor in there is in the "know", how the hell he can sit with a straight face and give nothing away is beyond me. Yes, I know, hence actor - but come on! If he carries this off without giving a single thing away via a look or slipped comment, someone should teach him to play poker. Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: matt674 on December 09, 2005, 02:18:12 PM Funny cos they are dim. It's car crash TV. Should that not be plane crash (or even shuttle crash) tv? ;) Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: yt on December 09, 2005, 03:13:03 PM Funny cos they are dim. It's car crash TV. Should that not be plane crash (or even shuttle crash) tv? ;) This program is a Rocket free zone! No Rockets? I hear you cry, but how do they get into space then? doh Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: danmonkey on December 09, 2005, 03:48:41 PM Be careful who you label as dumb yt! There has been development on space planes for a long time now and the majority of what they were being fed is relatively plausible. See here for details:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/04/27/space.tourism/ http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/12/05/esa.budget.ap/ Admittedly the line they were spun about gravity does require a fundamental lack of understanding of the laws of Physics, yet I'm willing to bet that there are plenty of people out who could be bamboozled by the concept of near space. Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: yt on December 09, 2005, 04:15:41 PM Be careful who you label as dumb yt! There has been development on space planes for a long time now and the majority of what they were being fed is relatively plausible. See here for details: I know the one you talk of but they were told they would take off and land in the same plane. The examples in development are flown high into the atmosphere on other planes first. http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/04/27/space.tourism/ http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/12/05/esa.budget.ap/ Admittedly the line they were spun about gravity does require a fundamental lack of understanding of the laws of Physics, yet I'm willing to bet that there are plenty of people out who could be bamboozled by the concept of near space. It's so unplausable only a bunch of fame seeking hippy student types with no life experience could fall for it. Saying that it was very entertaining watching the plebs! Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: weirwizard on December 09, 2005, 04:27:01 PM By the way the airfield is called "Bentwaters" and is not really near Ipswich, (20miles north so close) some of you may of heard about a certain UFO being seen there many years back, quite ironic really! :D
Anyway they must be the most stupid people around as not only would it be freezing cold in Russia but all the cars are in righthand drive!! But the most blatent fact is that going into space costs MULTI-MILLIONS of dollars, some how i doubt the channel four company can afford it, no matter how many phone-ins they can milk from it. Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: danmonkey on December 09, 2005, 04:42:23 PM You should have watched the show weirwizard. When they landed it was in the night and sub-zero, but importantly they are supposed to be based near Volgograd which is south west Russia and as close to Iran as it is to Moscow. The temperature there today is a believable 7 degrees C, in Ipswich it is 6 degrees C.
As for the right hand drive cars, they arrived in the middle of the night by a Russian helicopter and were transported in a Russian bus, escorted by a Russian car, passing a working Russian Tank and a scud missile on the way. The budget for this show is apparently £4 million. The estimated price of future space tourist flights? $200,000 each according to Richard Branson. Set to take off from 2008... http://www.virgingalactic.com/en/when.asp Strange times we live in. Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: AndrewT on December 09, 2005, 05:25:53 PM So it now costs more to fake a space flight than it does to actually do it for real?
How things have changed since 1969. Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: Royal Flush on December 09, 2005, 05:55:25 PM If he carries this off without giving a single thing away via a look or slipped comment, someone should teach him to play poker. There are 2 actors, and 1 of them, Charlie is a firend of Vicky Coren's so maybe he is a poker player! Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: ericstoner on December 09, 2005, 05:58:15 PM Three actors Royal.......The girl in green is a plant.
Actually me thinks most of em are plants,in the real sence of the word. It is good to see them go all sub-servient when the rusky officer got a bit load. Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: Royal Flush on December 09, 2005, 06:00:12 PM Didnt know there were 3.
Vicky Coren posted on hendon that the rest were genuine, not saying her friend may have been told to lie to everyone, but i believe they are. Its not hard to find a handfull of fame hungry muppets in todays Britain. Well done British education :D Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: Cybertim on December 09, 2005, 06:51:43 PM my daughter noticed today that the Scottish guy (ryan?) who is supposed to be a genuine contestant actually appears on the advert on stv for the blood transfusion service.. the one with Martin Kemp and Gordon Ramsey.. in the ad he appears in front of Gordon Ramsey who pats him on the head... they must ALL be actors..
Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: danmonkey on December 09, 2005, 11:45:31 PM Man appears as extra in advert? Must be an actor then...
I've revised my opinion after witnessing this collection of fools blithely accept that the fair city of Minsk was named after 'Minsky' - the first Russian monkey to return from space. They definitely are subnormal. Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: Dingdell on December 10, 2005, 12:57:16 AM I've only caught some of it but I howled with laughter - they did this communication thing where they had to pretend to talk to mission control and they had to report seeing things like the Fonz. The fully bit was the comment afterwards by one of the 'cadets' who said that it was the first bit of serious training they had had and it had demonstrated how serious the whole thing was getting........deerie deerie me!
I think some of the blondites might be right - they might all be actors - and we are the ones being wound up...? Tracey Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: Graham C on December 16, 2005, 02:49:47 PM What a pointless program this is. If someone sent me on an outwood bound course, put a jumbo jet in front the building I was in and told me I was off to Russia to train as an astronaught, I'd believe them (possibly) For one thing they had Johnny Vaughn there so its obviously not a dodgy outfit. Then to be flown around for hours and landing in place where everything is Russian looking, why not believe it.
I cant see the appeal of this. Its watching people having a joke played on them. The only people that it effects is the guys in there and why we would care I dont know. If Johny Vaughn could refain from saying "We are (pause) actually (pause again) just outside Ipswich (wait for dramatic effect)" the program would be a managable 20 mins long. Toilet.....IMHO of course Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: snoopy1239 on December 16, 2005, 03:18:06 PM What a pointless program this is. If someone sent me on an outwood bound course, put a jumbo jet in front the building I was in and told me I was off to Russia to train as an astronaught, I'd believe them (possibly) For one thing they had Johnny Vaughn there so its obviously not a dodgy outfit. Then to be flown around for hours and landing in place where everything is Russian looking, why not believe it. I cant see the appeal of this. Its watching people having a joke played on them. The only people that it effects is the guys in there and why we would care I dont know. If Johny Vaughn could refain from saying "We are (pause) actually (pause again) just outside Ipswich (wait for dramatic effect)" the program would be a managable 20 mins long. Toilet.....IMHO of course entertainment. Seeing how they react, seeing if they catch on, seeing the reaction of the guys who didn't get in, etc, etc, etc. Poke the grumpy bear. ;D ;) (http://www.websmileys.com/sm/crazy/265.gif) Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: Graham C on December 16, 2005, 03:27:20 PM lol
the bit that did amuse me was when the guy was telling them about Minsky the monkey and that dog and the guys were wetting themselves and the ladies crying :D Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: snoopy1239 on December 16, 2005, 03:39:27 PM lol the bit that did amuse me was when the guy was telling them about Minsky the monkey and that dog and the guys were wetting themselves and the ladies crying :D aaaaaaaaah. see, you love it really. :D Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: Graham C on December 16, 2005, 04:03:10 PM no no no no no no no no no
well...dont tell anyone ! Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: snoopy1239 on December 16, 2005, 09:21:50 PM any1 watching?
PMSL here. rotflmfao Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: Graham C on December 16, 2005, 09:25:13 PM the missus is...i may have to join her soon ::)
Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: snoopy1239 on December 16, 2005, 09:30:37 PM It was funny when the actors started to lose their composure at that dog's funeral service. rotflmfao
Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: RFC on December 16, 2005, 09:39:45 PM any1 watching? PMSL here. rotflmfao yip how mad are they they dont want to come out rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: snoopy1239 on December 16, 2005, 09:41:07 PM They'll be all right when they hear they're gonna get some dosh.
Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: gatso on December 16, 2005, 09:53:46 PM Enjoying the reveal much more than the rest of the progs. The reaction to being told they were near Ipswich was priceless, they seemed more shocked by that than they were at finding out they weren't in space
Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: jammer on December 16, 2005, 10:34:58 PM Genius.
A real live Truman Show. Those 3 minutes when they were trying to hold it together in the face of the last 3 weeks unravelling, tryiing to hold on to some semblance of dignity. Poetry I tell you! Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: Colchester Kev on December 16, 2005, 10:47:18 PM I was a bit dissapointed with the reveal, i think they should have made it so believable that they were going out on the "Arm" of the shuttle to see the earth ... and then flipped the door open so they could see everyone ... to tell them while they were in the pod was a bit of a letdown IMO.
Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: jammer on December 16, 2005, 10:55:19 PM I was a bit dissapointed with the reveal, i think they should have made it so believable that they were going out on the "Arm" of the shuttle to see the earth ... and then flipped the door open so they could see everyone ... to tell them while they were in the pod was a bit of a letdown IMO. I thought the same at first to be honest, but then I realised (seeing how shattered they were anywhere), that channel4 were no doubt worried about giving em permanant possibly fatal psychological damage (they practically told em in the last days that it was fake). I'm not sure I'd want billy's suicide on our collective conscience ;) I could almost hear lawyers around the UK giving collective sighs of disappointment as they gave them a soft landing... By the way... Joey from Friends, and Space Cadet Paul. Separated at birth. Title: Re: Space Cadets Post by: lvlarc_uk on December 16, 2005, 11:41:39 PM Yeh I thought they broke the truth to them too softly. Should of done what Kev suggested.
Funny TV though :) |